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The "other" G.O.A.T.....?

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  • MudflyM Mudfly

    Ok.....as a spin off from Gippers Goat thread, I got to thinking about this GOAT thing and how many GOATS really exist. And, base upon the QB thread, Id say there isn't a QB who stands above all the rest...meaning....there are a number of GREAT ones, but people cant come together on a consensus goat...which means there isnt one that completely stands out as the obvious choice....for QB

    But, what about the other positions......to me, there are only a hand full of players that I would considered as goats and think MOST others would pick too......ala "consensus" GOATS......of course, there will NEVER be a player everyone agrees on, cause thats impossible.....but I think there are a few slamdunks!....so, here are my slam dunk GOATS from the NFL......

    WR...Jerry Rice....The whole package. To me, no one else is even close.

    RB...Jim Brown.....another easy one for me....never will there be another JB

    LB...Lawrence Taylor......you kids need to watch his highlights...unparalleled in every way....

    DL...Reggie White/Bruce Smith.......co award.....these 2 are very close, yet both are MILES ahead of everyone else......shared greatness right here!!

    And thats it......I think every other position is open to debate and most have several players that would be appropriate.......no slam dunks.....here are a couple "proposals" though....

    OL....Bruce Mathews.....who is the first that quickly comes to mind as the best ever...

    DB...Ronnie Lott.....probably should be on my first list, but Ill see what others think....

    And Im not looking to debate the best player at every position....that would drone on forever,,,,,really just looking for opinions on "slam dunk best ever" types......got any?

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    @mudfly said:

    Ok.....as a spin off from Gippers Goat thread, I got to thinking about this GOAT thing and how many GOATS really exist. And, base upon the QB thread, Id say there isn't a QB who stands above all the rest...meaning....there are a number of GREAT ones, but people cant come together on a consensus goat...which means there isnt one that completely stands out as the obvious choice....for QB

    But, what about the other positions......to me, there are only a hand full of players that I would considered as goats and think MOST others would pick too......ala "consensus" GOATS......of course, there will NEVER be a player everyone agrees on, cause thats impossible.....but I think there are a few slamdunks!....so, here are my slam dunk GOATS from the NFL......

    WR...Jerry Rice....The whole package. To me, no one else is even close.

    RB...Jim Brown.....another easy one for me....never will there be another JB

    LB...Lawrence Taylor......you kids need to watch his highlights...unparalleled in every way....

    DL...Reggie White/Bruce Smith.......co award.....these 2 are very close, yet both are MILES ahead of everyone else......shared greatness right here!!

    And thats it......I think every other position is open to debate and most have several players that would be appropriate.......no slam dunks.....here are a couple "proposals" though....

    OL....Bruce Mathews.....who is the first that quickly comes to mind as the best ever...

    DB...Ronnie Lott.....probably should be on my first list, but Ill see what others think....

    And Im not looking to debate the best player at every position....that would drone on forever,,,,,really just looking for opinions on "slam dunk best ever" types......got any?

    Don't be such a homer. Jim Brown weighed more than most of the linebackers he played against. If he played now a days he would be avearge.

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      You can't leave out DT Merlin Olsen-tied with Bruce and two others for 14 Pro Bowls (all but his last season).

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        T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
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        Fainting goats are the GOATS of goats

        Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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          HauerlandH Hauerland wrote on last edited by
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          QB Montana

          FB Csonka

          RB Brown

          WR Rice

          WR Moss

          TE Gonzalez

          T Willy Roaf

          T Walter Jones

          G Allen

          G Hannah

          DT Greene

          DT Lilly

          DE White

          DE Deacon ones

          OLB Taylor

          OLB Rickey Jackson

          MLB Lewis

          CB Sanders

          CB Green

          S Lott

          S Reed

          K Andersen

          P Guy

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          • jrb12711J jrb12711

            One RB I always want to throw into the conversation is Barry Sanders. It's a shame that dude played for the Lions for so long but his moves are stuff of legend if you ask me. A lot of the other guys in that talk were the "you know I'm coming but good luck stopping me" type of back. Sanders I'd say is the greatest RB of all time in terms of making plays in space.

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            @jrb12711 said:

            One RB I always want to throw into the conversation is Barry Sanders. It's a shame that dude played for the Lions for so long but his moves are stuff of legend if you ask me. A lot of the other guys in that talk were the "you know I'm coming but good luck stopping me" type of back. Sanders I'd say is the greatest RB of all time in terms of making plays in space.

            He's got my vote. I wasn't around for JB but Sanders (and Farve) are what got me interested in football.

            Granted I might be biased due to my affiliation with the real OSU but I was also in grade school at the time and didn't realize college football was a thing back then so........Yeah. Sanders is, and always will be, a badass.

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            • Z Zombo

              Here is my GOAT lineup:

              QB Manning

              FB Motley

              RB Brown

              WR Rice

              WR Hutson

              TE Gonzalez

              T Munoz

              T Groza

              G Hannah

              G Allen

              C Otto

              DT Greene

              DT Page

              DE White

              DE B. Smith

              MLB Butkus

              OLB Taylor

              OB D. Brooks

              S Lott

              S Reed

              CB Lane

              CB Sanders

              K Vinitieri

              P Guy

              ST Tasker

              Ret Cribbs

              HC Paul Brown

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              The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by The Gipper
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              Zombo said:

              Here is my GOAT lineup:

              QB Manning

              FB Motley

              RB Brown

              WR Rice

              WR Hutson

              TE Gonzalez

              T Munoz

              T Groza

              G Hannah

              G Allen

              C Otto

              DT Greene

              DT Page

              DE White

              DE B. Smith

              MLB Butkus

              OLB Taylor

              OB D. Brooks

              S Lott

              S Reed

              CB Lane

              CB Sanders

              K Vinitieri

              P Guy

              ST Tasker

              Ret Cribbs

              HC Paul Brown

              Looks pretty darn good. I won't even bother messing with it. Except, of course, at QB.

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              • MudflyM Mudfly

                Ok.....as a spin off from Gippers Goat thread, I got to thinking about this GOAT thing and how many GOATS really exist. And, base upon the QB thread, Id say there isn't a QB who stands above all the rest...meaning....there are a number of GREAT ones, but people cant come together on a consensus goat...which means there isnt one that completely stands out as the obvious choice....for QB

                But, what about the other positions......to me, there are only a hand full of players that I would considered as goats and think MOST others would pick too......ala "consensus" GOATS......of course, there will NEVER be a player everyone agrees on, cause thats impossible.....but I think there are a few slamdunks!....so, here are my slam dunk GOATS from the NFL......

                WR...Jerry Rice....The whole package. To me, no one else is even close.

                RB...Jim Brown.....another easy one for me....never will there be another JB

                LB...Lawrence Taylor......you kids need to watch his highlights...unparalleled in every way....

                DL...Reggie White/Bruce Smith.......co award.....these 2 are very close, yet both are MILES ahead of everyone else......shared greatness right here!!

                And thats it......I think every other position is open to debate and most have several players that would be appropriate.......no slam dunks.....here are a couple "proposals" though....

                OL....Bruce Mathews.....who is the first that quickly comes to mind as the best ever...

                DB...Ronnie Lott.....probably should be on my first list, but Ill see what others think....

                And Im not looking to debate the best player at every position....that would drone on forever,,,,,really just looking for opinions on "slam dunk best ever" types......got any?

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                @mudfly said:

                Ok.....as a spin off from Gippers Goat thread, I got to thinking about this GOAT thing and how many GOATS really exist. And, base upon the QB thread, Id say there isn't a QB who stands above all the rest...meaning....there are a number of GREAT ones, but people cant come together on a consensus goat...which means there isnt one that completely stands out as the obvious choice....for QB

                But, what about the other positions......to me, there are only a hand full of players that I would considered as goats and think MOST others would pick too......ala "consensus" GOATS......of course, there will NEVER be a player everyone agrees on, cause thats impossible.....but I think there are a few slamdunks!....so, here are my slam dunk GOATS from the NFL......

                WR...Jerry Rice....The whole package. To me, no one else is even close.

                RB...Jim Brown.....another easy one for me....never will there be another JB

                LB...Lawrence Taylor......you kids need to watch his highlights...unparalleled in every way....

                DL...Reggie White/Bruce Smith.......co award.....these 2 are very close, yet both are MILES ahead of everyone else......shared greatness right here!!

                And thats it......I think every other position is open to debate and most have several players that would be appropriate.......no slam dunks.....here are a couple "proposals" though....

                OL....Bruce Mathews.....who is the first that quickly comes to mind as the best ever...

                DB...Ronnie Lott.....probably should be on my first list, but Ill see what others think....

                And Im not looking to debate the best player at every position....that would drone on forever,,,,,really just looking for opinions on "slam dunk best ever" types......got any?

                You left out Paul Warfield.. He was a freak athlete and outstanding pass catcher.. He was a walking highlight reel...

                Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
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                  Devon Hester over Josh Cribbs for me.

                  "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                    @mudfly said:

                    Ok.....as a spin off from Gippers Goat thread, I got to thinking about this GOAT thing and how many GOATS really exist. And, base upon the QB thread, Id say there isn't a QB who stands above all the rest...meaning....there are a number of GREAT ones, but people cant come together on a consensus goat...which means there isnt one that completely stands out as the obvious choice....for QB

                    But, what about the other positions......to me, there are only a hand full of players that I would considered as goats and think MOST others would pick too......ala "consensus" GOATS......of course, there will NEVER be a player everyone agrees on, cause thats impossible.....but I think there are a few slamdunks!....so, here are my slam dunk GOATS from the NFL......

                    WR...Jerry Rice....The whole package. To me, no one else is even close.

                    RB...Jim Brown.....another easy one for me....never will there be another JB

                    LB...Lawrence Taylor......you kids need to watch his highlights...unparalleled in every way....

                    DL...Reggie White/Bruce Smith.......co award.....these 2 are very close, yet both are MILES ahead of everyone else......shared greatness right here!!

                    And thats it......I think every other position is open to debate and most have several players that would be appropriate.......no slam dunks.....here are a couple "proposals" though....

                    OL....Bruce Mathews.....who is the first that quickly comes to mind as the best ever...

                    DB...Ronnie Lott.....probably should be on my first list, but Ill see what others think....

                    And Im not looking to debate the best player at every position....that would drone on forever,,,,,really just looking for opinions on "slam dunk best ever" types......got any?

                    Don't be such a homer. Jim Brown weighed more than most of the linebackers he played against. If he played now a days he would be avearge.

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                    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                    @larryfine said:

                    Don't be such a homer. Jim Brown weighed more than most of the linebackers he played against. If he played now a days he would be avearge.

                    Your ignorance really knows no bounds, does it.

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                      QB Montana

                      FB Csonka

                      RB Brown

                      WR Rice

                      WR Moss

                      TE Gonzalez

                      T Willy Roaf

                      T Walter Jones

                      G Allen

                      G Hannah

                      DT Greene

                      DT Lilly

                      DE White

                      DE Deacon ones

                      OLB Taylor

                      OLB Rickey Jackson

                      MLB Lewis

                      CB Sanders

                      CB Green

                      S Lott

                      S Reed

                      K Andersen

                      P Guy

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                      The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                      @hauerland said:

                      Not bad.

                      QB Montana

                      FB Csonka

                      RB Brown

                      WR Rice

                      WR Moss

                      TE Gonzalez

                      T Willy Roaf

                      T Walter Jones I would put in Munoz.

                      G Allen

                      G Hannah

                      You forgot OC

                      DT Greene

                      DT Lilly

                      DE White Reggie....or Randy (though Randy may have been a DT...but he was very good)

                      DE Deacon ones

                      OLB Taylor

                      OLB Rickey Jackson

                      MLB Lewis

                      CB Sanders

                      CB Green

                      S Lott

                      S Reed

                      K Andersen

                      P Guy

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