Jonathan Paul Manziel
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282 days
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cbbacker said:
My only question is this, is this program to help him stop being lazy, and teach him how to put in the work, and be better prepared? I don't know if he has a drinking problem. Drinking on the weekends isn't indicative of a drinking problem or every college, and 80% of high school kids have drinking problems. His issue is that his talent no longer outweighs the competition. He cannot rely on just going out there and being Johnny football. He actually has to learn, and practice, and put for significant effort.
Him entering a program is a sham, and he did it for the media and fans. I don't care if he gets blitzed out of his mind on the weekends, just be ready when it's football season, and don't make an ass out of yourself.
You're an idiot who knows absolutely nothing about what you are commenting on.
You're an idiot who knows absolutely nothing about what you are commenting on.
Says the guy who makes no effort to explain anything other than to toss insults. You da man!!
Are you just ignorant? I didn't say he was or wasn't an alchy. I said his getting hammered on the weekends, this stuff rarely happens during the week. I said i could give a crap as long as he shapes up for football season stupid. So exactly what am I supposed to know?
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My wife works in the field, and actually I was just being a smart ass. I know it's a difficult process, and many times it takes several attempts to finally make it.
right on the money and unfortunately some never do make it. I have been fortunate that after my rehab 25 years ago Ive not slipped once and my life is the better for it. MOST of the people I was in rehab with are either dead, active and wish they were dead or in jail.
right on the money and unfortunately some never do make it. I have been fortunate that after my rehab 25 years ago Ive not slipped once and my life is the better for it. MOST of the people I was in rehab with are either dead, active and wish they were dead or in jail.
Agreed. It is fortunate that Johnny caught on at an early age that he has a problem.He needs to change the people he runs with though. You can't keep the same friends and get clean.
The Honey Badger found that out after he got kicked out of LSU. Patrick Peterson and John Lucas (the former Houston Rocket) got him straightened out. His pal Jorden Jefferson never did figure it out.
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cbbacker said:
My only question is this, is this program to help him stop being lazy, and teach him how to put in the work, and be better prepared? I don't know if he has a drinking problem. Drinking on the weekends isn't indicative of a drinking problem or every college, and 80% of high school kids have drinking problems. His issue is that his talent no longer outweighs the competition. He cannot rely on just going out there and being Johnny football. He actually has to learn, and practice, and put for significant effort.
Him entering a program is a sham, and he did it for the media and fans. I don't care if he gets blitzed out of his mind on the weekends, just be ready when it's football season, and don't make an ass out of yourself.
You're an idiot who knows absolutely nothing about what you are commenting on.
You're an idiot who knows absolutely nothing about what you are commenting on.
right on the money and unfortunately some never do make it. I have been fortunate that after my rehab 25 years ago Ive not slipped once and my life is the better for it. MOST of the people I was in rehab with are either dead, active and wish they were dead or in jail.
That's how it goes.
cbbacker said:
Says the guy who makes no effort to explain anything other than to toss insults. You da man!!
Are you just ignorant? I didn't say he was or wasn't an alchy. I said his getting hammered on the weekends, this stuff rarely happens during the week. I said i could give a crap as long as he shapes up for football season stupid. So exactly what am I supposed to know?
Rarely happens during the week? How would you know that? OK- I don't know either. That's the problem guy -Manziel DIDN'T shape up during football season. Documented multiple times.
In case you don't realize it yet- getting hammered will affect you for at least the next day- and doing so on a constant basis will do a nice number on your motivation. I'll posit it's impossible to reach your highest potential as an athlete if you're drinking heavily on a consistent basis.
Plus- you think the other guys on the team who are taking care of their bodies doing all the right stuff appreciate him going out and getting shitfaced?
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The kind of temptations JM will face are way more than the average person. I read where some Casino in Vegas offered him six figures just to host a super bowl party. I'm sure that would have made for some nice pictures on TMZ. It still we be the same story though with his recovery he needs to make new friends who will help him make the right decisions and stay away from the party friends. AA is a great organization. I know some people in AA with 10-25 years sobriety and although that is impressive what really impresses me is how motivated they are to help others.
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I hope one thing Manziel realizes in all this is he has to let go of the "groupies" in his life first and foremost. I believe it was a piece on Tyron Smith the OL for the Cowboys who talked about all this. He pretty much said his career would be over if he didn't completely cut-out all the people who were riding the coat tails and hoping to live the luxury life. It's clear Manziel has tons of people like this in his life and will drag him back down if not removed.
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I hope one thing Manziel realizes in all this is he has to let go of the "groupies" in his life first and foremost. I believe it was a piece on Tyron Smith the OL for the Cowboys who talked about all this. He pretty much said his career would be over if he didn't completely cut-out all the people who were riding the coat tails and hoping to live the luxury life. It's clear Manziel has tons of people like this in his life and will drag him back down if not removed.
I hope one thing Manziel realizes in all this is he has to let go of the "groupies" in his life first and foremost. I believe it was a piece on Tyron Smith the OL for the Cowboys who talked about all this. He pretty much said his career would be over if he didn't completely cut-out all the people who were riding the coat tails and hoping to live the luxury life. It's clear Manziel has tons of people like this in his life and will drag him back down if not removed.
I agree totally.
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Its easy for all of us to kick back and judge this kid. I wish him the best.
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you don't have to hit rock bottom before acknowledging an issue with polysubstance abuse. I suspect johnny had an aha moment as he witnessed running dog, josh,
stepping on his dick again as he frittered away what could have been a successful NFL career. there are plenty of nfl players, current and past, who have had success fighting
the scourge of addiction. johnny needs to align himself with winners to avoid the normal fate of those who choose to use. the crux of it, in my opinion, is that jm has been dealt
a dose of reality....for the first time in his life he is facing failure resulting in diminished sense of worth and self confidence. he needs to come to terms with the realization that most likely his
future will not involve the NFL.
it's over johnny
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Nice little PR stunt but won't change he is a bust.
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Johnny Manziel needs a positive role model like Bernie Kosar.
Kosar had substance abuse issues and got them under control. Maybe he could help mentor Johnny. I know, defending the rookie QB with limited reps is inexcusable. He's clearly garbage. Like everyone on this board isn't drunk off their ass.
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I knew it would never happen but I would have liked to have seen Bernie Kosar hired as our QB coach.
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I hope one thing Manziel realizes in all this is he has to let go of the "groupies" in his life first and foremost. I believe it was a piece on Tyron Smith the OL for the Cowboys who talked about all this. He pretty much said his career would be over if he didn't completely cut-out all the people who were riding the coat tails and hoping to live the luxury life. It's clear Manziel has tons of people like this in his life and will drag him back down if not removed.
I hope one thing Manziel realizes in all this is he has to let go of the "groupies" in his life first and foremost. I believe it was a piece on Tyron Smith the OL for the Cowboys who talked about all this. He pretty much said his career would be over if he didn't completely cut-out all the people who were riding the coat tails and hoping to live the luxury life. It's clear Manziel has tons of people like this in his life and will drag him back down if not removed.
As a good friend of mine (now clean and sober almost 36 years) once told me, the key for him was changing people, places and things. Once he got that all straight, everything changed.
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http://lighthouserecoveryinstitute.com/open-letter-johnny-manziel-rehab/.
I thought this was a nice letter someone wrote to JM.
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http://lighthouserecoveryinstitute.com/open-letter-johnny-manziel-rehab/.
I thought this was a nice letter someone wrote to JM.
http://lighthouserecoveryinstitute.com/open-letter-johnny-manziel-rehab/.
I thought this was a nice letter someone wrote to JM.
He stole my line. LOL.
"The most positive step in all this is that in order to actually go to rehab he had to check his ego at the door knowing all the things he said in the national spotlight about living his own life his way which obviously did not work out so well. His first step was far harder than any of us would have to make with the same problem because none of us has to live their life in a fishbowl like he has done since winning the Heisman. This step is a most humiliating, public eating of humble pie for a guy who didn't even like the name Johnny Football."-posted in here Feb 3, 2015.
I think the author reads the Browns Board.
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http://lighthouserecoveryinstitute.com/open-letter-johnny-manziel-rehab/.
I thought this was a nice letter someone wrote to JM.
He stole my line. LOL.
"The most positive step in all this is that in order to actually go to rehab he had to check his ego at the door knowing all the things he said in the national spotlight about living his own life his way which obviously did not work out so well. His first step was far harder than any of us would have to make with the same problem because none of us has to live their life in a fishbowl like he has done since winning the Heisman. This step is a most humiliating, public eating of humble pie for a guy who didn't even like the name Johnny Football."-posted in here Feb 3, 2015.
I think the author reads the Browns Board.
He stole my line. LOL.
"The most positive step in all this is that in order to actually go to rehab he had to check his ego at the door knowing all the things he said in the national spotlight about living his own life his way which obviously did not work out so well. His first step was far harder than any of us would have to make with the same problem because none of us has to live their life in a fishbowl like he has done since winning the Heisman. This step is a most humiliating, public eating of humble pie for a guy who didn't even like the name Johnny Football."-posted in here Feb 3, 2015.
I think the author reads the Browns Board.
Is that a phrase they teach you when you become a rehab counselor? Sounds like it.
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I'm hoping JM went into rehab on his own and the Browns org. did not twist his arm. I am interested to see how he does after rehab with his head in the game. For sure he has better talent than he has shown thus far. I have some empathy for JM. I remind myself he is just 22 years old. Rehab may be one of the best things to happen to him.
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And while I am optimistic about Johnny and his talent I am NOT particularly optimistic about the success of rehab programs. I would imagine that in the case of heavy chemical dependence that a one two or three month detox would be a good first step. He doesn't seem to me to be the guy with the DT's and the shakes, just a kid that likes to get shit hammered like I did. I don't know what it is that has been causing problems in his life.
Hopefully its just a realization that he needs a new direction and if so that would be great. I don't doubt he has the talent but talent alone can't make you great.
And I'm guessing, knowing how the paparazzi works, that if he sneaks out to a bar someone will have photographs. And that, gentlemen, will be that.
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