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  • Z Zombo

    @itoldyouso said:

    http://mweb.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/jason-la-canfora/25038103/browns-mess-with-gordon-manziel-starts-with-owner-haslams-mismanagement

    Basically spot on with all the problems I have been trying to get across this forum... Sadly that information I have tried to share in the past was met by trolling dirtbags. Now everything g is out there so you can't troll me b.c everyone is saying g what I have been saying.

    All the problems you have been trying to get across to the forum?

    You have 5 posts.

    You share an IP with Purple Panty Waste, a Ravens fan.

    And your e-mail address is I luv my Billz

    Bills fan, Ravens fan, Browns troll?

    Give me a good answer so I can decide between giving you a new name or just banning you.

    Zombo

    Zombo said:

    All the problems you have been trying to get across to the forum?

    You have 5 posts.

    You share an IP with Purple Panty Waste, a Ravens fan.

    And your e-mail address is I luv my Billz

    Bills fan, Ravens fan, Browns troll?

    Give me a good answer so I can decide between giving you a new name or just banning you.

    Zombo

    With all that surely it has some gender confusion as well? New user name = Bill the Transgendered Ratbird

  • I itoldyouso

    http://mweb.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/jason-la-canfora/25038103/browns-mess-with-gordon-manziel-starts-with-owner-haslams-mismanagement


    Basically spot on with all the problems I have been trying to get across this forum... Sadly that information I have tried to share in the past was met by trolling dirtbags. Now everything g is out there so you can't troll me b.c everyone is saying g what I have been saying.

    @itoldyouso said:

    http://mweb.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/jason-la-canfora/25038103/browns-mess-with-gordon-manziel-starts-with-owner-haslams-mismanagement

    Basically spot on with all the problems I have been trying to get across this forum... Sadly that information I have tried to share in the past was met by trolling dirtbags. Now everything g is out there so you can't troll me b.c everyone is saying g what I have been saying.

    Nobody cares what you have been trying to get across....or have tried to share. You have a total of 5 posts on this forum. Come back when you have over 20,000. Then maybe we will listen to you.

    ballpeenB T 2 Replies

  • the article lost credibility when they called Shanahan "the best coach on the team's staff".

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  • Browns1216B Browns1216

    the article lost credibility when they called Shanahan "the best coach on the team's staff".

    @browns1216 said:

    the article lost credibility when they called Shanahan "the best coach on the team's staff".

    Not sure about losing credibility with that quote, but everything in the article can't be pure speculation. My thinking is that it's probably somewhere in between what he said it is and what we hope it is.

    But I think it's worse than what we think it is.

    DieHardBrownsFanD Tim Couch Pulls OutT 2 Replies
  • T tomyo10

    @browns1216 said:

    the article lost credibility when they called Shanahan "the best coach on the team's staff".

    Not sure about losing credibility with that quote, but everything in the article can't be pure speculation. My thinking is that it's probably somewhere in between what he said it is and what we hope it is.

    But I think it's worse than what we think it is.

    @tomyo10 said:

    Not sure about losing credibility with that quote, but everything in the article can't be pure speculation. My thinking is that it's probably somewhere in between what he said it is and what we hope it is.

    But I think it's worse than what we think it is.

    Thanks for clearing that up.

    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
  • T tomyo10

    @browns1216 said:

    the article lost credibility when they called Shanahan "the best coach on the team's staff".

    Not sure about losing credibility with that quote, but everything in the article can't be pure speculation. My thinking is that it's probably somewhere in between what he said it is and what we hope it is.

    But I think it's worse than what we think it is.

    @tomyo10 said:

    Not sure about losing credibility with that quote, but everything in the article can't be pure speculation. My thinking is that it's probably somewhere in between what he said it is and what we hope it is.

    But I think it's worse than what we think it is.

    I'm willing to bet most of it is speculation and that La Canfora just chased down leads to support his argument. Pure confirmation bias.

    A "source" could be Jenny the accountant or Steve the temp. They're technically "within the organization" and I bet they're shitting their pants to talk to a real, live reporter.

    I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride

  • skunksmell thread started by a skunk.

    not impressed. blech

  • This is the low point in the organization. No doubt about it. 21 yr old franchise 1st round qb in rehab, best wr done for season again, owner in legal trouble, oc everyone wanted doesn't want to be in Cleveland, oc nobody else wanted is in Cleveland by default, qb coach no one ever heard of in Cleveland by default, and gm is going to be suspended. Did I miss anything? Oh yea and tickets prices are going up too. Pettine can start packing his bags in November for sure cause he will for sure be the scapegoat. I actually starting to miss old owners. And I have been missing Heckert for years now. Sure tell me the sky isn't falling and this is not business as usual. Tell me where the bright spots are with this team while u at it.

    "We are Americans. We don't quit doing something because it's wrong. We just keep doing the wrong thing till it turns out right." Browns maybe the most American Football team ever.
  • Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out

    If you take out everything that "sources say"...all you Have is that Shanahan quit, Gordon is suspended and Manziel is in rehab.

    This is all speculative shock journalistic garbage. Here's a good rule of thumb: "sources say" means absolutely nothing.

    Multiple team sources have told me that Johnny threw a 90 yard TD pass to Brian Hoyer yesterday at rehab and that Jimmy Haslam is a gay robot.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    If you take out everything that "sources say"...all you Have is that Shanahan quit, Gordon is suspended and Manziel is in rehab.

    This is all speculative shock journalistic garbage. Here's a good rule of thumb: "sources say" means absolutely nothing.

    Multiple team sources have told me that Johnny threw a 90 yard TD pass to Brian Hoyer yesterday at rehab and that Jimmy Haslam is a gay robot.

    So true.....it's just like any other "news source". it all has to be taken with a grain of salt.

  • C cuwoohio

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    If you take out everything that "sources say"...all you Have is that Shanahan quit, Gordon is suspended and Manziel is in rehab.

    This is all speculative shock journalistic garbage. Here's a good rule of thumb: "sources say" means absolutely nothing.

    Multiple team sources have told me that Johnny threw a 90 yard TD pass to Brian Hoyer yesterday at rehab and that Jimmy Haslam is a gay robot.

    So true.....it's just like any other "news source". it all has to be taken with a grain of salt.

    @cuwoohio said:

    So true.....it's just like any other "news source". it all has to be taken with a grain of salt.

    OH so everything that's happened since lose at cinncy is just typical football team problems. Can't stick "only in Cleveland" tag?

    "We are Americans. We don't quit doing something because it's wrong. We just keep doing the wrong thing till it turns out right." Browns maybe the most American Football team ever.
  • cdl15C cdl15

    @cuwoohio said:

    So true.....it's just like any other "news source". it all has to be taken with a grain of salt.

    OH so everything that's happened since lose at cinncy is just typical football team problems. Can't stick "only in Cleveland" tag?

    @cdl15 said:

    OH so everything that's happened since lose at cinncy is just typical football team problems. Can't stick "only in Cleveland" tag?

    The "only in Cleveland" mindset is a cop-out. There's no "curse". We're not doomed because of some bullshit. It's like when people are down on their luck and they blame God, or the universe or anything else.

    Blaming serves no purpose. Breaking down why you fucked up and addressing each individual aspect is the only way to prevent shit like this from happening again.

    Everything that happened since Cinci is typical football team problems. The Browns are one of three teams that are part of a "-gate" this season...not the only ones. As for Manziel and Gordon, that's what happens when you take risks. Sometimes they blow up in your face. The Ravens had to release two players this season because of off-the-field issues. The Vikings were without their star RB. Every one of Arizona's quarterbacks was hurt at some point this season. Jacksonville was forced to start their rookie quarterback because of poor play from their veteran starter. The Bills had their head coach quit on them. The Falcons lost three starting offensive linemen in one game.

    All of these things happen to teams around the league all of the time. Winning franchises diagnose and fix. Losing teams crumble and restart.

    I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride

  • Isn't the guy who wrote this, a friend of Lombardi?

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."

  • And now Jordan Cameron wants out...

  • Can an organization that's been in the dumps really be destroyed? It was already a mess, its just more sensationalized now.

  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @itoldyouso said:

    http://mweb.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/jason-la-canfora/25038103/browns-mess-with-gordon-manziel-starts-with-owner-haslams-mismanagement

    Basically spot on with all the problems I have been trying to get across this forum... Sadly that information I have tried to share in the past was met by trolling dirtbags. Now everything g is out there so you can't troll me b.c everyone is saying g what I have been saying.

    Nobody cares what you have been trying to get across....or have tried to share. You have a total of 5 posts on this forum. Come back when you have over 20,000. Then maybe we will listen to you.

    @the-gipper said:

    Nobody cares what you have been trying to get across....or have tried to share. You have a total of 5 posts on this forum. Come back when you have over 20,000. Then maybe we will listen to you.

    Good to know I only have around 9800 more posts until people start to listen to what I have to say.

    I do agree the guy sounds like a dick.

    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
    The GipperT 1 Reply

  • This is the Browns and what I have always found peculiar is the amount of fans who think as the calendar turns the next season will be better. I guess I understand the hope but the blind allegiance to a franchise that continually fucks the pooch is odd. While I don't think it's time to blow it up I do think we are looking at mediocrity at best next season and a 4-12 typical debacle as a reality.

    W 1 Reply

  • The media feeds on this kind of story and then you have people believing almost like a self fulfilling prophecy any bad thing that happens in Cleveland is proof positive the club is destined to stay in the cellar.

  • OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan

    The media feeds on this kind of story and then you have people believing almost like a self fulfilling prophecy any bad thing that happens in Cleveland is proof positive the club is destined to stay in the cellar.

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    The media feeds on this kind of story and then you have people believing almost like a self fulfilling prophecy any bad thing that happens in Cleveland is proof positive the club is destined to stay in the cellar.

    Things haven't looked good in a long time. No one really wants to come here and you can't blame them. The media has portrayed the FO as a dumpster fire. The team is a perennial loser. And we have an alcoholic, dug addicted, slacker diva as a qb.

    God I love this team.

  • This is the first time I have ever invaded an enemies team message board cause I think it is ignorant of another fan posting on someone else's message board, but what is going on with your Browns is a slap in the face to ALL NFL fans.

    As a Bills fan, I feel the pain of Browns fans as you folks don't deserve 1/8 of what is going on in Cleveland.

    The worst part is that there is nothing you can do about a bad owner (don't I know about bad owners in Wilson).

    The biggest question is............

    Can the Browns get out of this mess?

    Z 1 Reply

  • Even with the second half season collapse the team exceeded expectations this year. The team showed in the Ravens game they haven't quit on Pettine (even with all the drama of Manziel, Gordon and Gilbert) and Pettine is building a team here. This was his first year. Give him a little time.

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