Bands that you can't stand

Westside Steve

@browns149 said:
Kiss comes to mind. Not much musical talent there. Just hype and product selling IMO

I don't put a great deal of stock in musical talent. I go by what appeals to me. If it were only raw ability you might never be happy listening to someone other than a virtuoso.

WSS

DieHardBrownsFan

Okay, I found one I don't like.

Browns149

@westside-steve said:

I don't put a great deal of stock in musical talent. I go by what appeals to me. If it were only raw ability you might never be happy listening to someone other than a virtuoso.

WSS

I also go by what appeals to me, and 4 guys with very limited musical talent, ie.Kiss is not appealing to me

Westside Steve

@browns149 said:
I also go by what appeals to me, and 4 guys with very limited musical talent, ie.Kiss is not appealing to me

I don't like kiss either. Their stuff is uncomplicated but that doesn't mean they are untalented. Paul Stanley did Phantom of the Opera on Broadway for a while.

WSS

The Gipper

KISS is extremely talented at marketing their image and their personality and garnering compensation therefore.....even if their music is by no means a virtuosity. Most musicians would likely be more receptive to that kind of talent.

See where I like Strutter and Black Diamond, my wife likes Beth.

Browns149

@westside-steve said:

I don't like kiss either. Their stuff is uncomplicated but that doesn't mean they are untalented. Paul Stanley did Phantom of the Opera on Broadway for a while.

WSS

And Gene Simmons did a reality TV show. What's your point?

Westside Steve

@browns149 said:
And Gene Simmons did a reality TV show. What's your point?

It means what it means. Every popular song does not need to be complicated and that lack of complication does not mean the performers are not talented.

WSS

larryfine

@the-gipper said:

KISS is extremely talented at marketing their image and their personality and garnering compensation therefore.....even if their music is by no means a virtuosity. Most musicians would likely be more receptive to that kind of talent.

See where I like Strutter and Black Diamond, my wife likes Beth.

You talking about Dog the bounty hunters wife?

Browns149

@westside-steve said:

It means what it means. Every popular song does not need to be complicated and that lack of complication does not mean the performers are not talented.

WSS

Complication doesn't alway sound good either. Joe Satriani comes to mind

Axe

@westside-steve said:

It means what it means. Every popular song does not need to be complicated and that lack of complication does not mean the performers are not talented.

WSS

Exactly...

“I'm sick and tired of people saying that we put out 11 albums that sound exactly the same. In fact, we've put out 12 albums that sound exactly the same.”

Angus Young

miktoxic

love to see steve's takeon all of this because this is where he is the one with the stature.

won't say hate but dislike a lotof the 90s hippie bands. phish. before them grateful dead. then we move into southern rock, which i used to like but if i hear 'free bird' one more time i'll clip the wings of an eagle.

how come no one ever plays the 3rd song on the bside of an album?

btw maybe 10 years ago lollapalooza was a big thing here in nyc. on randalls island. the headliners were korn and tool. just so happened there was a little british banc on before them called james who i really like.

hot 97 degrees dirt turning into dust because people are mohing inside a fenced off area to the dj's industrial mix. james comes on and they sing their top hits including 'laid' and i'm getting into it from 100 yards away while the young punks boo them off the stage.

to each their own but don't disrespect talent. i mean i wouldn't call your mom a lazy dike if she didn't seat us fast enough at dennys.

nickers

the band I really cant stand is "Metallicrap" ... They are the biggest sissy whiners, in the industry whose made money hand over foot, and bitched about NAPSTER after they accrued millions.. Kirk Hammet is the worst guitar player I ever heard... He is the only guy I know who can take a beautiful Mesa Boogie Dual Rec amplifier and make it sound like complete garbage.. it's embarrassing. I feel sorry for Joe Satriani having to admit he gave Kirk guitar lessons... sad..

Westside Steve

Actually I like that Black Album with nothing else matters and the Unforgiven. I kind of agree about the whining aspect but as a guy who has done this for a living for almost five decades I certainly understand the idea that your music is your product. When people take your product and steal it, well you understand. Its not unlike going to a restaurant paying for one buffet and the other three people at your table sharing it. Napster actually was stealing artists bread and butter.

WSS

Browns149

@westside-steve said:

Actually I like that Black Album with nothing else matters and the Unforgiven. I kind of agree about the whining aspect but as a guy who has done this for a living for almost five decades I certainly understand the idea that your music is your product. When people take your product and steal it, well you understand. Its not unlike going to a restaurant paying for one buffet and the other three people at your table sharing it. Napster actually was stealing artists bread and butter.

WSS

I love their first 3 albums, and the next 2 were pretty good also, after that, not so much.

I was a young teenager when I first heard Kill'em All, Ride the Lightning and Master of Puppets. They blew me away. No one played that fast and hard.

After Cliff Burton passed away, they got more popular and radio started playing them.

Westside Steve

Actually (with apologies to ballpeen die hard and probably others) I can't stand Johnny Cash.

WSS

The Cysko Kid

Cash is alright but I don't see the big deal. Also I hate elvis. He's got a few tolerable songs but overall is a hunka hunka burnin' suck.

Westside Steve

@the-cysko-kid said:
Cash is alright but I don't see the big deal. Also I hate elvis. He's got a few tolerable songs but overall is a hunka hunka burnin' suck.

I'm with you. For some reason I do think Elvis is cool as an icon but I only like maybe one or two of his songs at all. He does have a great voice but... And the movies are horrid.

WSS

Westside Steve

Speaking of icons I don't get van morrison either. Don't hate him but don't see the appeal.

WSS

Browns149

@westside-steve said:

Speaking of icons I don't get van morrison either. Don't hate him but don't see the appeal.

WSS

Not a fan of his either.

Chicopee John

As I expected, "Rock and Roll" is such a broad and loosely defined term that there is more than enough room for 'fans' to like bands across the spectrum of whatever pigeonhole you want to put styles into:

R&R

Blues

Metal

R&B

Folk

Etc.

Even the R&R HOF, IMHO, is mis-named solely because inductees cross many more styles than narrowly defined Rock and Roll. But I will leave that to the pencil-necked geeks to determine such (unimportant) distinctions. It is all rock and roll to me.

People absolutely love some bands / artists I 'don't like' and vice versa. It is very subjective and virtually impossible to argue about one's tastes and opinions.

Kind of like arguing if Vanilla, Strawberry, Chocolate ice cream is better than the other two. Everybody is right and nobody is wrong, precisely because taste is so subjective.

As an example - and at the risk of giving my good friend, WWS, a coronary - there is no doubt that The Beatles played many great songs. On the flit side, however, I find a sizable minority to be lackluster or, even, bad.

Paul McCartney, to me, was pretty good in his Beatles days but, afterward, has been spotty at best. In short, much of his work is not listenable to me. I wont get into a list, because that would be a waste of time.

There are other bands that have released a ton of songs that I find the vast majority to be 'excellent'. The Stones and Allman Brothers come to mind.

Other bands have released a relatively small sample of music - as an entity - and I find virtually all of it in the 'excellent" category: Little Feat, Traffic, CCR, Rod Stewart, ...........and others I listed under a different thread.

I love 50's music with a heavy emphasis on Doo Wop. I can't listen to 'Metal'. But what do I know.

The very good news is the vast amount of territory one can cover to find the niches he wants to follow. Sometimes 'narrow and deep' where one digs deep into a certain band or group of bands and - others - that I bought an album or two but never was interested enough to get to the 'narrow and deep' category. The Who, Led Zepplin, Elton John, Bob Seeger, etc. All GREAT, GREAT bands but to a variety of reasons, never rose to the point where I had to have their albums - radio airplay and a select album or so, was enough. My loss, to a certain extent.

I had many more albums by The Four Tops, Little Anthony and the Imperials than any listed in the above paragraph. My gain, to a certain extent. James Brown too.

I will say that my Vanilla, Strawberry, Chocolate approach has changed over the years. Is it maturity, lack of maturity, life context, etc., I can look back at some of the bands I didn't go narrow and deep and, now, wonder why

I can look at some of those 'narrow and deep' groups, etc. and wonder why.

So much to listen to (and like) or not listen to (and not like) and so little time and opportunity to scratch much below the surface.