Jonathan Paul Manziel
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I'm hoping JM went into rehab on his own and the Browns org. did not twist his arm. I am interested to see how he does after rehab with his head in the game. For sure he has better talent than he has shown thus far. I have some empathy for JM. I remind myself he is just 22 years old. Rehab may be one of the best things to happen to him.
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And while I am optimistic about Johnny and his talent I am NOT particularly optimistic about the success of rehab programs. I would imagine that in the case of heavy chemical dependence that a one two or three month detox would be a good first step. He doesn't seem to me to be the guy with the DT's and the shakes, just a kid that likes to get shit hammered like I did. I don't know what it is that has been causing problems in his life.
Hopefully its just a realization that he needs a new direction and if so that would be great. I don't doubt he has the talent but talent alone can't make you great.
And I'm guessing, knowing how the paparazzi works, that if he sneaks out to a bar someone will have photographs. And that, gentlemen, will be that.
WSS
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And while I am optimistic about Johnny and his talent I am NOT particularly optimistic about the success of rehab programs. I would imagine that in the case of heavy chemical dependence that a one two or three month detox would be a good first step. He doesn't seem to me to be the guy with the DT's and the shakes, just a kid that likes to get shit hammered like I did. I don't know what it is that has been causing problems in his life.
Hopefully its just a realization that he needs a new direction and if so that would be great. I don't doubt he has the talent but talent alone can't make you great.
And I'm guessing, knowing how the paparazzi works, that if he sneaks out to a bar someone will have photographs. And that, gentlemen, will be that.
WSS
And I'm guessing, knowing how the paparazzi works, that if he sneaks out to a bar someone will have photographs. And that, gentlemen, will be that.
WSS
It will be an uphill climb. There is no privacy about anywhere (just about everyone has a cell phone camera) and your right one slip up especially during the football season and TMZ and others will be all over it. I am sure there are NFL players in AA who would like the opportunity to sponsor JM. I think he is going to have to choose what is most important to him.
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And while I am optimistic about Johnny and his talent I am NOT particularly optimistic about the success of rehab programs. I would imagine that in the case of heavy chemical dependence that a one two or three month detox would be a good first step. He doesn't seem to me to be the guy with the DT's and the shakes, just a kid that likes to get shit hammered like I did. I don't know what it is that has been causing problems in his life.
Hopefully its just a realization that he needs a new direction and if so that would be great. I don't doubt he has the talent but talent alone can't make you great.
And I'm guessing, knowing how the paparazzi works, that if he sneaks out to a bar someone will have photographs. And that, gentlemen, will be that.
WSS
And while I am optimistic about Johnny and his talent I am NOT particularly optimistic about the success of rehab programs. I would imagine that in the case of heavy chemical dependence that a one two or three month detox would be a good first step. He doesn't seem to me to be the guy with the DT's and the shakes, just a kid that likes to get shit hammered like I did. I don't know what it is that has been causing problems in his life.
Hopefully its just a realization that he needs a new direction and if so that would be great. I don't doubt he has the talent but talent alone can't make you great.
And I'm guessing, knowing how the paparazzi works, that if he sneaks out to a bar someone will have photographs. And that, gentlemen, will be that.
WSS
Rehab programs are a piece of cake. I've been through rehab many times, no problem.
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He stole my line. LOL.
"The most positive step in all this is that in order to actually go to rehab he had to check his ego at the door knowing all the things he said in the national spotlight about living his own life his way which obviously did not work out so well. His first step was far harder than any of us would have to make with the same problem because none of us has to live their life in a fishbowl like he has done since winning the Heisman. This step is a most humiliating, public eating of humble pie for a guy who didn't even like the name Johnny Football."-posted in here Feb 3, 2015.
I think the author reads the Browns Board.
Is that a phrase they teach you when you become a rehab counselor? Sounds like it.
'I think the author reads the Browns Board.
'Is that a phrase they teach you when you become a rehab counselor? Sounds like it.
No you have to go to specialty Browns grad school for that phrase.
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No NFL team's alcoholism program is better than Cleveland's.
Of course, Manziel will be out of the league before the end of 2015, but he'll always have his signing bonus and his Vegas.
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Hopefully he has matured since he was 12 until now. And yes I think he did it on his own, with some advice from friends and mentors.
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JM went in to Rehab before the Super bowl which I think is a good sign he is serious. He was offered six figures to host a Super Bowl party in Vegas and he went to Rehab instead.
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@douche-nozzle said:
I tend to believe what I see repeatedly. Until he steps up and acts like a young man instead of a spoiled brat I will call him a spoiled brat.
Fair enough, actions speak louder than words. I had personally given up on him but now I want to see how he does with his head in the game. For all the negative things written about him I do see some players saying he is a likeable guy, at least he is not some insufferable jerk.
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He can do whatever he wants, but there isn't a dang thing he can do on the field that will change his outcome in the NFL.
He is not a good quarterback in the NFL.
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My best motivation was always people telling me I couldn't do something, I wasn't capable or didn't have the ability. I always loved proving them wrong. The NFL has many players that don't have the stats to show they belong on the field but by being strong willed, being smart and putting in extra effort there they are on Sunday.
It will be a big uphill climb for JM but it can be done. I think it will take more determination and drive on his part than ever.
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@douche-nozzle said:
That's true and I am like that as well but when I watch the kid's mechanics he is God-awful. When I watch him dance like a little girl after throwing the ball, in hopes that his guy will catch it, I just don't see him having it between the ears. When I watch him throw as many wounded ducks as tight spirals (mainly because of his mechanics) it just all adds up to the same thing for me..............he doesn't have much more than hype.
Is he likable because he shares his coke and his bimbos?
I have heard comments from well respected players in the NFL that JM is a personable likeable guy. My big concern is like you say his mechanics and many of the things he could do in college is not going to work in the NFL. The Browns did themselves and JM a dis-service by drafting him in the first round with too much hype he was going to turn the club around overnight with unrealistic expectations. JM may in the end have to do what Joe Theisman said and play a few years in the CFL where his style of play is better suited and try again in the NFL in a few years. Theisman knows what he speaks about as that is the route he took.
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@douche-nozzle said:
He obviously has no shame and no self respect, to be texting a team saying "let's wreck this league" and flashing money signs .......says a lot about his self-percetion.
Almost as shameful and pathetic as trolling opposing teams and flashing the superbowl trophies you had no hand in winning.....
Says a lot about your self-perception.....
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"let's wreck this board" = freakin troll(s)
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Visited JF in rehab.
scrolling across screen on ESPN right now.
Also scrolling that Browns looking for new Starter...
When aren't we?
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WTF are you even talking about?
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ugggggh.
who isn't a total mess?
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