Rumor: Browns interested in trading up for Mariota
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Other than NT, what hole is there on our team that is anywhere near as glaring as our QB situation? And, isn't that the most important position in all of sports?
I'm not sold on trading 3 #1's for a guy, but if you really look at the talent on this team there aren't as many holes as some of you seem to conjure up.
yes there are....we suck at rushing the qb....we suck at pressuring the qb....we still cannot stop the run...so for the most part, our lb's suck...what friggin games were you watching last yr....we cannot get off the field...you want me to keep going...
yes there are....we suck at rushing the qb....we suck at pressuring the qb....we still cannot stop the run...so for the most part, our lb's suck...what friggin games were you watching last yr....we cannot get off the field...you want me to keep going...
Makes me laugh that you look at last year and blame the defense...
The same defense that finished in the top 10 in scoring and top 10 in Yards per Play, despite being on the field for an NFL-highest 1,118 plays last year, which I blame the offense b/c we were also top 10 in 3rd down percentage and turnover differential...
Let's not look at the offense that finished bottom 6 in scoring, dead last in team completion pct, dead last in TD passes, and 2nd from last in QB rating...
Yes, but please keep going...
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Mariotta is going to be really good in this league.
Probably the best QB to come out over the past 2-3 seasons.
He's everything you want to turn the ship around.
Laser focus on football and have 0 off field issues.
He's got that Manning/Luck work ethnic. Lives and breaths football.
Have all the physical intangibles (Tall, fast, strong, accurate, live arm).
A man that can lead men.
Mariotta is going to be really good in this league.
Probably the best QB to come out over the past 2-3 seasons.
He's everything you want to turn the ship around.
Laser focus on football and have 0 off field issues.
He's got that Manning/Luck work ethnic. Lives and breaths football.
Have all the physical intangibles (Tall, fast, strong, accurate, live arm).
A man that can lead men.
Given the QB's that have come out of the draft the last 2-3 years. That isn't saying much.
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yes there are....we suck at rushing the qb....we suck at pressuring the qb....we still cannot stop the run...so for the most part, our lb's suck...what friggin games were you watching last yr....we cannot get off the field...you want me to keep going...
Makes me laugh that you look at last year and blame the defense...
The same defense that finished in the top 10 in scoring and top 10 in Yards per Play, despite being on the field for an NFL-highest 1,118 plays last year, which I blame the offense b/c we were also top 10 in 3rd down percentage and turnover differential...
Let's not look at the offense that finished bottom 6 in scoring, dead last in team completion pct, dead last in TD passes, and 2nd from last in QB rating...
Yes, but please keep going...
Makes me laugh that you look at last year and blame the defense...
What made me laugh was the emphasis on our inability to stop the run in a reply purporting to disagree with a post stating how our need for a run-stuffing NT was 2nd only to our need for a QB.
More proof that the Browns might be going for Mariota??
And if you read the stupid comments, people are quick to call the Browns FO dirty for this.
I freaking love the story... if not the thought of drafting MM.
That being said, what special QB's will be coming out the following year?
I did find this:
DraftScout projects two years beyond the current based purely on graduating seniors.
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/players.php?genpos=QB&draftyear=2016&sortorder=tsxpos&order=ASC
First thing to strike me... not a runt in the litter...
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I will go on record as saying I dont want to trade up to get him.....not 2 first rounders at least.....
Now......if he drops, say to 8 or 9.......THEN id consider a trade up with a 1 & 3 or something....
But, in the end, not a huge believer that he's the one we need.....
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Makes me laugh that you look at last year and blame the defense...
What made me laugh was the emphasis on our inability to stop the run in a reply purporting to disagree with a post stating how our need for a run-stuffing NT was 2nd only to our need for a QB.
More proof that the Browns might be going for Mariota??
And if you read the stupid comments, people are quick to call the Browns FO dirty for this.
I freaking love the story... if not the thought of drafting MM.
That being said, what special QB's will be coming out the following year?
I did find this:
DraftScout projects two years beyond the current based purely on graduating seniors.
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/players.php?genpos=QB&draftyear=2016&sortorder=tsxpos&order=ASC
First thing to strike me... not a runt in the litter...
What made me laugh was the emphasis on our inability to stop the run in a reply purporting to disagree with a post stating how our need for a run-stuffing NT was 2nd only to our need for a QB.
I still agree that NT is our #2 need. Our defense is fantastic, and I still think that's the only position in NEED of an upgrade. I said multiple times throughout the season that the problem with run D was not having a true 3-4 NT and I still believe that.
Having said that, QB is the #1 need and just like years' past I don't care what we do to get our guy, as long as we get OUR guy. If the FO loves Mariota, then I'd give them all the credit in the world if they pulled the trigger and went and got him. BUT, they have to believe that he's OUR guy and they have to add weapons on offense to allow him to succeed. That goes for any QB we bring in...
For those who think we should load up in the draft on D, I just think that's missing the mark completely. Why do we need to invest so much in an already top 10 defense?
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Fuck it. Do it. I don't care today.
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Eastside Steve is right. Before Jimmy Mack got hurt Bryan Hoyer was in the running for the league MVP award!
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I guess the issue I've always has is picking need for the sake of need. Then convincing yourself you took the right guy.
Yes, QB until it is solved will be a need. But you don't go out and take a player with a skill set and background scheme you find to be highly questionable for the sake of "picking" a QB.
I see difference makes along the Dline in this draft. I can't say the same with QB.
And if the front office has to convince themselves they like Mariota - then i don't want any part of that.
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Hard to know whether this FO has fallen into the "need" trap.
I've no doubt that our previous FO did exactly that when it came to Wheezy.
That said, you always have to be looking for your next QB. You just have to remember that he may not be in the current draft.
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God I really hope somebody takes Mariota before our FO has the chance to fuck up another draft.
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I hope Farmer has learned from his mistakes.
i don't think farmer made many mistakes year sans the JF pick card handed to him by the owner.
i think if haslam let's his employees do their jobs w/o interference this could be a great draft.
selling your soul for 1 unproven rookie at the most important position in the game is never a good idea unless you and your staff have the guy as your potential prized 'no doubt whatsoever' pick. and i doubt anyone in any FO this year besides tampa bay or philly think either winston or mariota are the next andrew luck.
but hey, you never know. that's why we're not sitting in those seats.
i don't think farmer made many mistakes year sans the JF pick card handed to him by the owner.
i think if haslam let's his employees do their jobs w/o interference this could be a great draft.
selling your soul for 1 unproven rookie at the most important position in the game is never a good idea unless you and your staff have the guy as your potential prized 'no doubt whatsoever' pick. and i doubt anyone in any FO this year besides tampa bay or philly think either winston or mariota are the next andrew luck.
but hey, you never know. that's why we're not sitting in those seats.
Right now Gilbert is underperforming as well.
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i don't think farmer made many mistakes year sans the JF pick card handed to him by the owner.
i think if haslam let's his employees do their jobs w/o interference this could be a great draft.
selling your soul for 1 unproven rookie at the most important position in the game is never a good idea unless you and your staff have the guy as your potential prized 'no doubt whatsoever' pick. and i doubt anyone in any FO this year besides tampa bay or philly think either winston or mariota are the next andrew luck.
but hey, you never know. that's why we're not sitting in those seats.
Right now Gilbert is underperforming as well.
Right now Gilbert is underperforming as well.
well not right now because no one is playing.
last year? yes, he greatly underperformed.
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I think one thing we can bank on with Mariota. He will know the playbook.
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I think we should forget about Mariota and work on other positions this year and eye up cardale jones in the next draft
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I think we should forget about Mariota and work on other positions this year and eye up cardale jones in the next draft
I think we should forget about Mariota and work on other positions this year and eye up cardale jones in the next draft
Absolutely agree with this.
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