Rumor: Browns interested in trading up for Mariota
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I will go on record as saying I dont want to trade up to get him.....not 2 first rounders at least.....
Now......if he drops, say to 8 or 9.......THEN id consider a trade up with a 1 & 3 or something....
But, in the end, not a huge believer that he's the one we need.....
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Makes me laugh that you look at last year and blame the defense...
What made me laugh was the emphasis on our inability to stop the run in a reply purporting to disagree with a post stating how our need for a run-stuffing NT was 2nd only to our need for a QB.
More proof that the Browns might be going for Mariota??
And if you read the stupid comments, people are quick to call the Browns FO dirty for this.
I freaking love the story... if not the thought of drafting MM.
That being said, what special QB's will be coming out the following year?
I did find this:
DraftScout projects two years beyond the current based purely on graduating seniors.
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/players.php?genpos=QB&draftyear=2016&sortorder=tsxpos&order=ASC
First thing to strike me... not a runt in the litter...
What made me laugh was the emphasis on our inability to stop the run in a reply purporting to disagree with a post stating how our need for a run-stuffing NT was 2nd only to our need for a QB.
I still agree that NT is our #2 need. Our defense is fantastic, and I still think that's the only position in NEED of an upgrade. I said multiple times throughout the season that the problem with run D was not having a true 3-4 NT and I still believe that.
Having said that, QB is the #1 need and just like years' past I don't care what we do to get our guy, as long as we get OUR guy. If the FO loves Mariota, then I'd give them all the credit in the world if they pulled the trigger and went and got him. BUT, they have to believe that he's OUR guy and they have to add weapons on offense to allow him to succeed. That goes for any QB we bring in...
For those who think we should load up in the draft on D, I just think that's missing the mark completely. Why do we need to invest so much in an already top 10 defense?
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Fuck it. Do it. I don't care today.
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Eastside Steve is right. Before Jimmy Mack got hurt Bryan Hoyer was in the running for the league MVP award!
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I guess the issue I've always has is picking need for the sake of need. Then convincing yourself you took the right guy.
Yes, QB until it is solved will be a need. But you don't go out and take a player with a skill set and background scheme you find to be highly questionable for the sake of "picking" a QB.
I see difference makes along the Dline in this draft. I can't say the same with QB.
And if the front office has to convince themselves they like Mariota - then i don't want any part of that.
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Hard to know whether this FO has fallen into the "need" trap.
I've no doubt that our previous FO did exactly that when it came to Wheezy.
That said, you always have to be looking for your next QB. You just have to remember that he may not be in the current draft.
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God I really hope somebody takes Mariota before our FO has the chance to fuck up another draft.
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I hope Farmer has learned from his mistakes.
i don't think farmer made many mistakes year sans the JF pick card handed to him by the owner.
i think if haslam let's his employees do their jobs w/o interference this could be a great draft.
selling your soul for 1 unproven rookie at the most important position in the game is never a good idea unless you and your staff have the guy as your potential prized 'no doubt whatsoever' pick. and i doubt anyone in any FO this year besides tampa bay or philly think either winston or mariota are the next andrew luck.
but hey, you never know. that's why we're not sitting in those seats.
i don't think farmer made many mistakes year sans the JF pick card handed to him by the owner.
i think if haslam let's his employees do their jobs w/o interference this could be a great draft.
selling your soul for 1 unproven rookie at the most important position in the game is never a good idea unless you and your staff have the guy as your potential prized 'no doubt whatsoever' pick. and i doubt anyone in any FO this year besides tampa bay or philly think either winston or mariota are the next andrew luck.
but hey, you never know. that's why we're not sitting in those seats.
Right now Gilbert is underperforming as well.
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i don't think farmer made many mistakes year sans the JF pick card handed to him by the owner.
i think if haslam let's his employees do their jobs w/o interference this could be a great draft.
selling your soul for 1 unproven rookie at the most important position in the game is never a good idea unless you and your staff have the guy as your potential prized 'no doubt whatsoever' pick. and i doubt anyone in any FO this year besides tampa bay or philly think either winston or mariota are the next andrew luck.
but hey, you never know. that's why we're not sitting in those seats.
Right now Gilbert is underperforming as well.
Right now Gilbert is underperforming as well.
well not right now because no one is playing.
last year? yes, he greatly underperformed.
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I think one thing we can bank on with Mariota. He will know the playbook.
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I think we should forget about Mariota and work on other positions this year and eye up cardale jones in the next draft
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I think we should forget about Mariota and work on other positions this year and eye up cardale jones in the next draft
I think we should forget about Mariota and work on other positions this year and eye up cardale jones in the next draft
Absolutely agree with this.
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God I really hope somebody takes Mariota before our FO has the chance to fuck up another draft.
God I really hope somebody takes Mariota before our FO has the chance to fuck up another draft.
Ha ha my thoughts exactly. Some sucker is going to get stuck with him, and as history shows that sucker is usually the Browns.
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Mariota is not accurate, period.
Go watch the OSU game again: He repeatedly missed wide-open receivers while not under pressure. And OSU was the first defense he faced all year that was able to put serious pressure on him... just like every AFCN team will always be able to do.
Is he teachable? Yes. Is he a professional? Yes.
But he is not worth trading up for, let alone multiple first round picks.
The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown -
I sure as hell don't.
I mean, they were completely ineffective all year. Bitonio is garbage. Can't believe we wasted a second rounder on him. And getting two runningbacks, one through UDFA? Terrible. Hey Farmer, YOU CAN ONLY START ONE RB AT A TIME, IDIOT. WHY DO WE NEED TWO.
Then going out and finding some random no-name UDFA WR, I think the dude's name was Peter Gabriel? Fucking idiotic. That guy sucks ass. And don't even get me started on that Williams dude. What kind of team starts a UDFA DB?
I say fire them all, let's go get Josh McDaniels.
Yet another person who doesn't know football. Here is what people who actually know said about Bitonio http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000448750/article/rookie-watch-2015-pro-bowl-picks-and-snubs
I believe he is even is/was in consideration for offensive rookie of the year honors.
cbbacker said:
Yet another person who doesn't know football. Here is what people who actually know said about Bitonio http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000448750/article/rookie-watch-2015-pro-bowl-picks-and-snubs
I believe he is even is/was in consideration for offensive rookie of the year honors.
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