Former Bucs GM preferes Mariota over Winston at #1
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Wow, one day after Farmer want's to hear Chip Kelly cry for Marriota, Here come's the #1 TB saying Chip call me. Come on Draft Day, Say it With Me

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Along with Polian and Riddick, Dominick is one of the ones I watch ESPN's NFL Insiders to hear.
Sounds like once burned, twice shy on Dominick's part except there weren't character questions about Freeman coming out of K-State, were there?
(Aside: a google search to check popped up a reference to a Mark Sanchez rape investigation at USC.)
Regardless you have to see Winston and MM being fairly close in football potential to let mostly juvenile stuff determine your choice... and I do not see them being that close.
I'm in the same boat. As a pure physical prospect and in terms of game readiness, I believe Winston is leaps and bounds ahead of Mariota. Winston possesses the size and build to withstand NFL hits as well as the skillset to shine. I don't place any emphasis in the cafeteria incident nor the crab legs incident. The rape incident, I place a little more emphasis in, but not as much as some. If you actually read the reports (ALL of the available reports), it sounds less like a case of rape and more like a case of two drunk-ass kids having sex and then one of them regretting it.
Flame away, holier-than-thous.
I'm in the same boat. As a pure physical prospect and in terms of game readiness, I believe Winston is leaps and bounds ahead of Mariota. Winston possesses the size and build to withstand NFL hits as well as the skillset to shine. I don't place any emphasis in the cafeteria incident nor the crab legs incident. The rape incident, I place a little more emphasis in, but not as much as some. If you actually read the reports (ALL of the available reports), it sounds less like a case of rape and more like a case of two drunk-ass kids having sex and then one of them regretting it.
Flame away, holier-than-thous.
He stood up in front of the entire student cafeteria and screamed, "Fock her right in the pussy".
That screams immaturity and the thinking that he is immune to consequences. I've seen how these folks usually end up.
The stealing of the crab legs...that's just dumb. Surprise he didn't go after KFC next.
And with the rape case, would it surprise you one bit if he really did do it? This is coming from a person that stood in front of a large audience and screamed...."i fock her right in the pussy." There's something mentally not right with people that do shit like this.
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If your record as a GM is 28-52 over 5 yrs then you need to STFU!
Dominik is a joke..
Oh. GM's coach games?
I could put together the best team in the world for you. I doubt you'd know how to win with it.
He stood up in front of the entire student cafeteria and screamed, "Fock her right in the pussy".
That screams immaturity and the thinking that he is immune to consequences. I've seen how these folks usually end up.
The stealing of the crab legs...that's just dumb. Surprise he didn't go after KFC next.
And with the rape case, would it surprise you one bit if he really did do it? This is coming from a person that stood in front of a large audience and screamed...."i fock her right in the pussy." There's something mentally not right with people that do shit like this.
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A college kid screaming something immature to impress his friends? Clearly, he's not NFL material.
I was actually going to counter this argument with logic, but then I realized you're nothing but a racist piece of shit. You're not worth my time.
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So I'm assuming you are a big Winston guy, Couch?
WSS
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So I'm assuming you are a big Winston guy, Couch?
WSS
So I'm assuming you are a big Winston guy, Couch?
WSS
Not a big Winston guy, per se. I think he's the best in this draft, but that's not saying much.
I'm more a fan of his skill set. I'd rather use take Cardale Jones next year, regardless of what happens with either him or us.
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So I'm assuming you are a big Winston guy, Couch?
WSS
Not a big Winston guy, per se. I think he's the best in this draft, but that's not saying much.
I'm more a fan of his skill set. I'd rather use take Cardale Jones next year, regardless of what happens with either him or us.
Not a big Winston guy, per se. I think he's the best in this draft, but that's not saying much.
I'm more a fan of his skill set. I'd rather use take Cardale Jones next year, regardless of what happens with either him or us.
Well Jones does seem to have all the tools. Hopefully that's not just my homerism blinding me. (If, of course, he winds up on the Browns.)

WSS
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If your record as a GM is 28-52 over 5 yrs then you need to STFU!
Dominik is a joke..
Oh. GM's coach games?
I could put together the best team in the world for you. I doubt you'd know how to win with it.
He stood up in front of the entire student cafeteria and screamed, "Fock her right in the pussy".
That screams immaturity and the thinking that he is immune to consequences. I've seen how these folks usually end up.
The stealing of the crab legs...that's just dumb. Surprise he didn't go after KFC next.
And with the rape case, would it surprise you one bit if he really did do it? This is coming from a person that stood in front of a large audience and screamed...."i fock her right in the pussy." There's something mentally not right with people that do shit like this.
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A college kid screaming something immature to impress his friends? Clearly, he's not NFL material.
I was actually going to counter this argument with logic, but then I realized you're nothing but a racist piece of shit. You're not worth my time.
Oh. GM's coach games?
GM's are just as responsible for the success or failure of the teams they assemble as the HC is.. Particularly when they hired the HC..
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Winston has far better character than JM. He only semi-rapes, steals crab legs and yells "Fuck you in the pussy" in school cafeterias, whereas JM takes his buddies out drinking too often.

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Winston has far better character than JM. He only semi-rapes, steals crab legs and yells "Fuck you in the pussy" in school cafeterias, whereas JM takes his buddies out drinking too often.

Winston has far better character than JM. He only semi-rapes, steals crab legs and yells "Fuck you in the pussy" in school cafeterias, whereas JM takes his buddies out drinking too often.

And sucks at football.
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Winston has far better character than JM. He only semi-rapes, steals crab legs and yells "Fuck you in the pussy" in school cafeterias, whereas JM takes his buddies out drinking too often.

And sucks at football.
And sucks at football.
thats the key
lets be honest, if Johnny could play well NO ONE would care about anything else.....
same goes with Winston.....if he plays good, everything goes away. If he sucks, then it's because he has character flaws.
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And sucks at football.
thats the key
lets be honest, if Johnny could play well NO ONE would care about anything else.....
same goes with Winston.....if he plays good, everything goes away. If he sucks, then it's because he has character flaws.
Nah I think shoplifting some crab legs is a college prank kind of thing. Raping a chick and then being a loud mouth punk about it is something you can't really shine on. I guess there are some Baltimore Ravens fans that give Ray Rice A boys will be boys pass but...thats the key
lets be honest, if Johnny could play well NO ONE would care about anything else.....
same goes with Winston.....if he plays good, everything goes away. If he sucks, then it's because he has character flaws.
WSS
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Nah I think shoplifting some crab legs is a college prank kind of thing. Raping a chick and then being a loud mouth punk about it is something you can't really shine on. I guess there are some Baltimore Ravens fans that give Ray Rice A boys will be boys pass but...thats the key
lets be honest, if Johnny could play well NO ONE would care about anything else.....
same goes with Winston.....if he plays good, everything goes away. If he sucks, then it's because he has character flaws.
WSS
Nah I think shoplifting some crab legs is a college prank kind of thing. Raping a chick and then being a loud mouth punk about it is something you can't really shine on.
I don't see the alleged rape and the yelling incident being related.
But agree on the crab legs... something akin to the "grocery shopping" scene in Animal House.
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Nah I think shoplifting some crab legs is a college prank kind of thing. Raping a chick and then being a loud mouth punk about it is something you can't really shine on.
I don't see the alleged rape and the yelling incident being related.
But agree on the crab legs... something akin to the "grocery shopping" scene in Animal House.
Exactly what I was thinking about. So you think after the alleged rape the comments in the cafeteria were okay? Or not related? Or what?I don't see the alleged rape and the yelling incident being related.
But agree on the crab legs... something akin to the "grocery shopping" scene in Animal House.
WSS
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Exactly what I was thinking about. So you think after the alleged rape the comments in the cafeteria were okay? Or not related? Or what?I don't see the alleged rape and the yelling incident being related.
But agree on the crab legs... something akin to the "grocery shopping" scene in Animal House.
WSS
Exactly what I was thinking about. So you think after the alleged rape the comments in the cafeteria were okay? Or not related? Or what?
WSS
It was a popular internet meme at the time. Not related at all.
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I thought another red flag with Winston was in the Oregon game when it looked like he was arguing with his coach and the coach telling him to calm down or he would sit him on the bench (or words to that effect).
Maybe it is no big deal but for me just adding to his other issues.
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I thought another red flag with Winston was in the Oregon game when it looked like he was arguing with his coach and the coach telling him to calm down or he would sit him on the bench (or words to that effect).
Maybe it is no big deal but for me just adding to his other issues.
I thought another red flag with Winston was in the Oregon game when it looked like he was arguing with his coach and the coach telling him to calm down or he would sit him on the bench (or words to that effect).
Maybe it is no big deal but for me just adding to his other issues.
See, I thought that was referencing his erratic play that game.
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"It's a small piece of the evaluation," Senior Bowl executive director and former Cleveland Browns general manager Phil Savage told USA TODAY Sports in a text. "They (Winston and Fisher) go at it like that every day in practice and games.
Probably not a big deal. Just something hard not to see when the national cameras are spotlighting you.
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"It's a small piece of the evaluation," Senior Bowl executive director and former Cleveland Browns general manager Phil Savage told USA TODAY Sports in a text. "They (Winston and Fisher) go at it like that every day in practice and games.
Probably not a big deal. Just something hard not to see when the national cameras are spotlighting you.
"It's a small piece of the evaluation," Senior Bowl executive director and former Cleveland Browns general manager Phil Savage told USA TODAY Sports in a text. "They (Winston and Fisher) go at it like that every day in practice and games.
Probably not a big deal. Just something hard not to see when the national cameras are spotlighting you.
To a certain extent, I kind of like it. It's better than always saying "yes, coach". Friction creates fire. I think its about time we had a little fire from a QB.
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