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  • tiamat63 tiamat63T Conversation Starter Dedicated Reacting Well Collaborator First Post Posting Machine Week One Done One Month Later One Year In Very Popular
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    tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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    More ramblings about Schreff having to move to the interior at the NFL level. I agreed with your early analysis about not seeing why he was such a hyped prospect.

    Looks like you were spot on from the beginning.

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      The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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      Well, what are you saying about these guys in respect to the Browns drafting them?

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        Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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        Thanks... to be honest I do not think Scherff is that hot of a prospect for the inside. He's a project, an enticingly athletic looking one no doubt (as was Greg Robinson last year), but a prospect, not a plug and play guy.

        So far I see only two plug and play OTs: Peat (LT) and Clemmings (RT).

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          miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by miktoxic
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          OL talk?

          LB U was penn state at one time.

          OL U is still wisconsin IMO.

          i know a certain alum currently playing LT would think the same.

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            Well, what are you saying about these guys in respect to the Browns drafting them?

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            Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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            Without a doubt, mik... but more for interior guys than OTs. That said of the 45 players listed there is exactly one Wisconsin lineman on the list... and he's the #13-ranked OT.

            @the-gipper said:

            Well, what are you saying about these guys in respect to the Browns drafting them?

            Just raw notes so far, but were I to sum them up so far I'd have to say I see only one top OT prospect and two worthy of a 1st rounder. The top guy will be long gone before we pick and in any case both will end up in groupings with other position players of greater need.

            But with 40 or so to go, hopefully an interior guy and/or a late round OT will impress me.

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              WalterWhiteW WalterWhite wrote on last edited by
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              I would love to get our hands on a guy like Zack Martin in this draft and move him to the right side. Sherff is animal. I don't get all the negative reviews.

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                Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by Tour2ma
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                I don't know how to imbed a gif, but here's a link.

                http://www.draftbreakdown.com/gif-embed/?clip=253927&gif=GleamingDependentHeron

                Only 15 seconds, and it's not like Scherff does nothing good, but I see way too much of this from him.

                He ain't Zack Martin.

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                  The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by The Gipper
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                  I don't know how to imbed a gif

                  Are you making a pun?

                  Here is a gif:

                  watsonvergara49-1419887867.gif

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                    It would be amazing if Clemmings fell to the #19 pick. I'd grab him in a heartbeat.

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                      It would be amazing if Clemmings fell to the #19 pick. I'd grab him in a heartbeat.

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                      jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on last edited by
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                      @secondwave said:

                      It would be amazing if Clemmings fell to the #19 pick. I'd grab him in a heartbeat.

                      Tour, can you talk a little bit more about Clemmings? He seems to be in a lot of mocks for the Browns at #19.

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                        The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by The Gipper
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                        QGS6UfA.gifHere is another gif you can imbed.

                        sexy-gif.gif?fit=500%2C276

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                          miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                          DirtyOldMan.

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                          • The GipperT The Gipper

                            I don't know how to imbed a gif

                            Are you making a pun?

                            Here is a gif:

                            watsonvergara49-1419887867.gif

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                            Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by Tour2ma
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                            @the-gipper said:

                            I don't know how to imbed a gif

                            Are you making a pun?

                            Nope... no pun... If you can figure out how to turn my link into a viewable gif, please let me know. All I get is a message about not having permission to post link with that extension or some such wording.

                            @jrb12711 said:

                            Tour, can you talk a little bit more about Clemmings? He seems to be in a lot of mocks for the Browns at #19.

                            Not a lot more... Clemmings looks very solid on tape. Good technique, good fluid motion. He's very close to Peat, but just not as silky smooth to my eye. Peat looks effortless; TJ looks to be trying a little.

                            Thing is that he is at RT in game tapes I saw, so I can't project him at LT. Some players flip sides without issue, but others can't... and it does not correlate with how good they are on one side. Should get some idea of this at the Combine.

                            No doubt in my mind that TJ would upgrade our RT situation, but to spend a first round pick on him. I'd have to be convinced he is also my next LT.

                            "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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                              Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by Tour2ma
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                              Spent a little time with three OU players today, LT, RT and LG.

                              Nothing of note except OU needs a new O-line coach. All three play like sumo wrestlers...

                              LT Tyrus Thompson: Oklahoma (02-13-15) vs. WVU - Slow, no tech.. no kick drop; no fireout, awkward,

                              RT Daryl Williams: Oklahoma (02-13-15) vs. WVU - fledgling kick, ugly chop with bit wide stance and lean, mild fire a bit upright, crosses feet in retreat

                              OG Adam Shead: OU (02-13-15) vs. WVU - Moved OK on one pull, better pass drop than OTs, no fire

                              "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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                                DirtyOldMan.

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                                ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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                                @miktoxic said:

                                DirtyOldMan.

                                I might fit that mold as well, but I'll tell you, the only thing that has changed is the "Old" part.

                                Your day will arrive soon enough, unless you end up like Bruce Jenner and want a sex change operation or you lose your interest in sex.

                                If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                                  @miktoxic said:

                                  DirtyOldMan.

                                  I might fit that mold as well, but I'll tell you, the only thing that has changed is the "Old" part.

                                  Your day will arrive soon enough, unless you end up like Bruce Jenner and want a sex change operation or you lose your interest in sex.

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                                  miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                                  @ballpeen said:

                                  I might fit that mold as well, but I'll tell you, the only thing that has changed is the "Old" part.

                                  Your day will arrive soon enough, unless you end up like Bruce Jenner and want a sex change operation or you lose your interest in sex.

                                  it was a joke and i am old.

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                                    DirtyOldMan.

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                                    R RoyceRolls wrote on last edited by
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                                    @miktoxic said:

                                    DirtyOldMan.

                                    The pot calling the kettle a pervert.

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                                      DirtyOldMan.

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                                      The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                      @miktoxic said:

                                      DirtyOldMan.

                                      At least I like women......as Peen noted....you are probably thrilled by Jenner's sex change, eh? 😉

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                                        Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by Tour2ma
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                                        Forgot one yesterday and he was my first real surprise, 2nd round rated prospect, Ty Sambrailo. Now my #3 value prospect, I think he may move inside. Dawned on me late as to why... "reminds me of Bito".

                                        Raw notes:

                                        Ty Sambrailo: Colorado St. (02-13-15) vs. SanJose St/BC - fledgling kick, good chop steps, decent posture, unchallenged by SJ, runs well and under control, reminds of Bito; conditioning? some fall off late 1st half vs. BC, can pull. Good discipline, quick decisions. Strength?

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                                          Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by Tour2ma
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                                          Notes on Jake Fisher...

                                          Looked like a world beater vs. UCLA and FSU, but Buckeye's exposed susceptibility to inside rush. Still looked good enough to slide into #4 slot for now...

                                          Jake Fisher; Oregon (02-14-15) vs. UCLA/ FSU/ OSU - funny split v UCLA, no kick drop, but chops well with good seat, good shadowing, runs well & drives well, looks lean can add lbs, stands tall, got bulled once, looked lean in white, but now thicker in green (v FSU), 3 diff OSU DEs lined up, only difficulty was with quicks of OSU "LB" #43, beatable cross face? Yes... 43 showed way and other DEs followed.

                                          "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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