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    OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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    I could post a large number of stats on Bridgewater but I'm not going there. It's done. It's just beating a dead horse. The bigger picture for me is all the good things I see the Browns doing right now. That is my focus.

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      Bailing on them and simply not caring what shenanigans they get up to anymore isn't the same thing. I'll be damned if I'm going to sit around and watch these idiots play clown shoes on a beautiful Sunday in September when I could be out playing with my sons

      Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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        Anyone who would suggest that manziel was a better pick than bridgewater has to be a racist. Minnesota has a young QB who put up good numbers and developed nicely on his way to rookie of the year honors. Manziel looked like a clueless glue-head until he got injured in his second game.

        I'm not saying don't give the kid another chance, but Vikings fans certainly aren't the ones having discussions about trading up for Mariota or Winston.

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          Bailing on them and simply not caring what shenanigans they get up to anymore isn't the same thing. I'll be damned if I'm going to sit around and watch these idiots play clown shoes on a beautiful Sunday in September when I could be out playing with my sons

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          @the-cysko-kid said:

          Bailing on them and simply not caring what shenanigans they get up to anymore isn't the same thing. I'll be damned if I'm going to sit around and watch these idiots play clown shoes on a beautiful Sunday in September when I could be out playing with my sons

          Denial is not just a river in Egypt. See you draft night. 😁

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            Anyone who would suggest that manziel was a better pick than bridgewater has to be a racist. Minnesota has a young QB who put up good numbers and developed nicely on his way to rookie of the year honors. Manziel looked like a clueless glue-head until he got injured in his second game.

            I'm not saying don't give the kid another chance, but Vikings fans certainly aren't the ones having discussions about trading up for Mariota or Winston.

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            @roycerolls said:

            Anyone who would suggest that manziel was a better pick than bridgewater has to be a racist. Minnesota has a young QB who put up good numbers and developed nicely on his way to rookie of the year honors. Manziel looked like a clueless glue-head until he got injured in his second game.

            I'm not saying don't give the kid another chance, but Vikings fans certainly aren't the ones having discussions about trading up for Mariota or Winston.

            And Bridgewater's first game he was 12-20 150 yds, no TD's in a 20-9 loss (all points by FG of Minn.).

            Bridgewater got most of a season to prove himself. JM got a depleted O line that Hoyer could not move the O with either.

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              @roycerolls said:

              Anyone who would suggest that manziel was a better pick than bridgewater has to be a racist. Minnesota has a young QB who put up good numbers and developed nicely on his way to rookie of the year honors. Manziel looked like a clueless glue-head until he got injured in his second game.

              I'm not saying don't give the kid another chance, but Vikings fans certainly aren't the ones having discussions about trading up for Mariota or Winston.

              And Bridgewater's first game he was 12-20 150 yds, no TD's in a 20-9 loss (all points by FG of Minn.).

              Bridgewater got most of a season to prove himself. JM got a depleted O line that Hoyer could not move the O with either.

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              @texasag1969 said:

              And Bridgewater's first game he was 12-20 150 yds, no TD's in a 20-9 loss (all points by FG of Minn.).

              Bridgewater got most of a season to prove himself. JM got a depleted O line that Hoyer could not move the O with either.

              12 of 20 would've been a dream first game for JM. The bigger problem with Manziel in his first start wasn't the numbers or even the horrible int's. It was that he looked completely overmatched. I would've liked to see at least one play in that Cincy game that showed a glimpse of NFL talent.

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                But to answer the OP's question: I believe the Browns are in a good position. We can speculate and what-if forever, but the fact of the matter is that last year this FO used FA and the draft to make this team better.

                Complain about the first round if you will, but compare rosters of '13 and '14 Browns and tell me which you'd prefer.

                I don't see why Farmer couldn't use this offseason to take another step forward. I wouldn't mind seeing 12 and 19 both being spent on the D line and LB corps. Add Cecil Shorts in FA and another WR in the midrounds as well as some O line depth.

                I also expect the continuity of the coaching staff to be very helpful. Overall, the Browns very well could compete for the division.

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                  R RoyceRolls wrote on last edited by
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                  Comparing Bridgewaters first game to manziel's is like comparing a ham sandwich to a scab on a cracker.

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                    Anyone who would suggest that manziel was a better pick than bridgewater has to be a racist. Minnesota has a young QB who put up good numbers and developed nicely on his way to rookie of the year honors. Manziel looked like a clueless glue-head until he got injured in his second game.

                    I'm not saying don't give the kid another chance, but Vikings fans certainly aren't the ones having discussions about trading up for Mariota or Winston.

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                    @roycerolls said:

                    Anyone who would suggest that manziel was a better pick than bridgewater has to be a racist. Minnesota has a young QB who put up good numbers and developed nicely on his way to rookie of the year honors. Manziel looked like a clueless glue-head until he got injured in his second game.

                    I'm not saying don't give the kid another chance, but Vikings fans certainly aren't the ones having discussions about trading up for Mariota or Winston.

                    And there's the old race card. Let me voice my opinion. Bridgewater will never ever be a superstar elite qb so who cares. He had a better first season than manziel had a first game. Good for him. I don't care what he did what he does. We don't have him and never will and frankly I don't see his ceiling ever being all that high. Regardless of skin color we need a big strong qb not some skinny running shrimp like bridgewater or manziel
                    Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                      R RoyceRolls wrote on last edited by
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                      I usually cringe at the race card, I'm surprised at myself for pulling it. I guess it's reserved for sheer lunacy that can't be explained in any other way. I'm not saying that Bridgewater is the next Aaron Rodgers, all I'm saying is that showed good growth as a rookie and has promise moving into the future, something Manziel hasn't even come close to doing. Furthermore, Bridgewater isn't a running QB, he had fewer rushing attempts than Andrew Luck. He's a guy who looks to pass first but has the ability to escape the pocket if needed.

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                        I could post a large number of stats on Bridgewater but I'm not going there. It's done. It's just beating a dead horse. The bigger picture for me is all the good things I see the Browns doing right now. That is my focus.

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                        The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                        @oldbrownsfan said:

                        I could post a large number of stats on Bridgewater but I'm not going there. It's done. It's just beating a dead horse. The bigger picture for me is all the good things I see the Browns doing right now. That is my focus.

                        Yes and no one cares about the Twat.

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                          gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by
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                          Like a BRIDGE over troubled WATERS, He would of let us Down 😁. One season of tape better hand the ball to Peterson..

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                            Comparing Bridgewaters first game to manziel's is like comparing a ham sandwich to a scab on a cracker.

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                            @roycerolls said:

                            Comparing Bridgewaters first game to manziel's is like comparing a ham sandwich to a scab on a cracker.

                            To be fair a ham sandwich is ok but it will never be a porterhouse

                            Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                              But to answer the OP's question: I believe the Browns are in a good position. We can speculate and what-if forever, but the fact of the matter is that last year this FO used FA and the draft to make this team better.

                              Complain about the first round if you will, but compare rosters of '13 and '14 Browns and tell me which you'd prefer.

                              I don't see why Farmer couldn't use this offseason to take another step forward. I wouldn't mind seeing 12 and 19 both being spent on the D line and LB corps. Add Cecil Shorts in FA and another WR in the midrounds as well as some O line depth.

                              I also expect the continuity of the coaching staff to be very helpful. Overall, the Browns very well could compete for the division.

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                              OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by OldBrownsFan
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                              @roycerolls said:

                              But to answer the OP's question: I believe the Browns are in a good position. We can speculate and what-if forever, but the fact of the matter is that last year this FO used FA and the draft to make this team better.

                              Complain about the first round if you will, but compare rosters of '13 and '14 Browns and tell me which you'd prefer.

                              I don't see why Farmer couldn't use this offseason to take another step forward. I wouldn't mind seeing 12 and 19 both being spent on the D line and LB corps. Add Cecil Shorts in FA and another WR in the midrounds as well as some O line depth.

                              I also expect the continuity of the coaching staff to be very helpful. Overall, the Browns very well could compete for the division.

                              It all hinges on the decisions they will be making soon. I just don't see it as being far fetched this team being able to compete for the division next season.

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                                miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                                we as fans will always dissect past drafts and the shouldas, couldas wouldas........

                                hell last year's draft was a dream sequence for me with gilbert and then they picked manziel and i thought..........'same old browns'....but farmer pushed up his sleeves and drafted a defensive secondary class that should be there for many many years to come. get us a NT a beast ILB and depth on the OL and we'll talk a ted stickwater next year. 'cept he'll be about 50 lbs. heavier, stronger arm, a bulldog run-over-a-LB stuff it up the gut QB in cardale jones.

                                somebody 'HIT ME'

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                                  @roycerolls said:

                                  But to answer the OP's question: I believe the Browns are in a good position. We can speculate and what-if forever, but the fact of the matter is that last year this FO used FA and the draft to make this team better.

                                  Complain about the first round if you will, but compare rosters of '13 and '14 Browns and tell me which you'd prefer.

                                  I don't see why Farmer couldn't use this offseason to take another step forward. I wouldn't mind seeing 12 and 19 both being spent on the D line and LB corps. Add Cecil Shorts in FA and another WR in the midrounds as well as some O line depth.

                                  I also expect the continuity of the coaching staff to be very helpful. Overall, the Browns very well could compete for the division.

                                  It all hinges on the decisions they will be making soon. I just don't see it as being far fetched this team being able to compete for the division next season.

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                                  T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
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                                  @oldbrownsfan said:

                                  It all hinges on the decisions they will be making soon. I just don't see it as being far fetched this team being able to compete for the division next season.

                                  I think it is extremely far fetched to expect this team to compete for the division as long as the big bads have quarterbacks and we do not. I also don't trust winston to be good or Mariota to have enough nfl talent. I think we have to build the defense, and expect to suck balls next season.

                                  Fail for cardale.

                                  Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                                    @oldbrownsfan said:

                                    It all hinges on the decisions they will be making soon. I just don't see it as being far fetched this team being able to compete for the division next season.

                                    I think it is extremely far fetched to expect this team to compete for the division as long as the big bads have quarterbacks and we do not. I also don't trust winston to be good or Mariota to have enough nfl talent. I think we have to build the defense, and expect to suck balls next season.

                                    Fail for cardale.

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                                    OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by OldBrownsFan
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                                    @the-cysko-kid said:

                                    I think it is extremely far fetched to expect this team to compete for the division as long as the big bads have quarterbacks and we do not. I also don't trust winston to be good or Mariota to have enough nfl talent. I think we have to build the defense, and expect to suck balls next season.

                                    Fail for cardale.

                                    Did you think the Browns would compete with the big bads last season? They did compete with them. We had one of them on the ropes going into the fourth quarter with our little old third string QB. So why it is far fetched to think they won't compete this season?

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                                      @roycerolls said:

                                      Anyone who would suggest that manziel was a better pick than bridgewater has to be a racist. Minnesota has a young QB who put up good numbers and developed nicely on his way to rookie of the year honors. Manziel looked like a clueless glue-head until he got injured in his second game.

                                      I'm not saying don't give the kid another chance, but Vikings fans certainly aren't the ones having discussions about trading up for Mariota or Winston.

                                      And Bridgewater's first game he was 12-20 150 yds, no TD's in a 20-9 loss (all points by FG of Minn.).

                                      Bridgewater got most of a season to prove himself. JM got a depleted O line that Hoyer could not move the O with either.

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                                      cdl15C cdl15 wrote on last edited by
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                                      @texasag1969 said:

                                      And Bridgewater's first game he was 12-20 150 yds, no TD's in a 20-9 loss (all points by FG of Minn.).

                                      Bridgewater got most of a season to prove himself. JM got a depleted O line that Hoyer could not move the O with either.

                                      Well the realization that not only did JF not know what was going on the defensive side of the ball he didn't even know what was going on in his own back field. Hoyer looked like Montana compared to JF and that is hardly a stretch.

                                      "We are Americans. We don't quit doing something because it's wrong. We just keep doing the wrong thing till it turns out right." Browns maybe the most American Football team ever.
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                                        @texasag1969 said:

                                        And Bridgewater's first game he was 12-20 150 yds, no TD's in a 20-9 loss (all points by FG of Minn.).

                                        Bridgewater got most of a season to prove himself. JM got a depleted O line that Hoyer could not move the O with either.

                                        Well the realization that not only did JF not know what was going on the defensive side of the ball he didn't even know what was going on in his own back field. Hoyer looked like Montana compared to JF and that is hardly a stretch.

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                                        Well the realization that not only did JF not know what was going on the defensive side of the ball he didn't even know what was going on in his own back field. Hoyer looked like Montana compared to JF and that is hardly a stretch.

                                        We were not comparing a veteran to a rookie. Just a rookie to a rookie who played 14 games.

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