Fanspeak draft simulator (You make the picks)
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Round 1 Pick 12: Danny Shelton, DT, Washington (A)
Round 1 Pick 21 (CINN): Cameron Erving, OT/OG, Florida State (
Round 2 Pick 11: Eli Harold, OLB, Virginia (A-)
Round 2 Pick 21 (CINN): Maxx Williams, TE, Minnesota (A-)
Round 3 Pick 13: Nelson Agholor, WR, Southern California (A)
Round 4 Pick 12: Andy Gallik, C, Boston College (A)
Round 4 Pick 16: Tony Lippett, WR, Michigan State (A)
Round 4 Pick 32 (N.E.): Stephone Anthony, ILB, Clemson (B+)
Round 6 Pick 13: Sean Mannion, QB, Oregon State (C-)Not bad...
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First time on FirstPick that I've seen Jameis fall to 12... Kept me out of the tradedown game really hurting the overall haul.
Your score is: 6287 (GRADE: A)
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 12: Jameis Winston, QB, Florida State (A)
Round 1 Pick 19: Malcom Brown, DT, Texas (A)
Round 2 Pick 11: Eddie Goldman, DT, Florida State (B-)
Round 3 Pick 13: Devin Smith, WR, Ohio State (A)
Round 4 Pick 12: Andy Gallik, C, Boston College (A)
Round 4 Pick 16: Henry Anderson, DE, Stanford (A-)
Round 5 Pick 11: Corey Robinson, OT, South Carolina (B-)
Round 6 Pick 13: Mike Hull, ILB, Penn State (B-)
Round 6 Pick 26: Justin Manton, K, Louisiana-Monroe (A)
Round 7 Pick 12: Kyle Loomis, P, Portland State (B )
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I tried an experiment with it: When it was the Browns pick I took the person at the very top of the list....the supposed BPA....and this is what I came up with:
1A. Eddie Goldman DT FSU
1B. Alvin Dupree DE Kentucky
2. Melvin Gordon RB Wisc.
3. Cameron Erving C FSU
4A. TJ Yeldon RB Alabama
4B. Breshard Perriman WR UCG
5. Steven Nelson CB Oregon
6A Cedric Thompson CB Minnesota
6B. Derrick Lott DT Tenn.-Chattanooga
7. Levi Norwood WR Baylor.
Yea, strictily taking the #1 guy left on the board garnered me 2 big name RBs. Like I said, I didn't draft for need.
5. Steven Nelson CB Oregon
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That's Oregon STATE, dipshit. He was the best player on the team this year. He'd be a smokin deal for anyone in round 5.
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5. Steven Nelson CB Oregon
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That's Oregon STATE, dipshit. He was the best player on the team this year. He'd be a smokin deal for anyone in round 5.
That's Oregon STATE, dipshit. He was the best player on the team this year. He'd be a smokin deal for anyone in round 5.
pppffffffrrrrrr!!!
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5. Steven Nelson CB Oregon
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That's Oregon STATE, dipshit. He was the best player on the team this year. He'd be a smokin deal for anyone in round 5.
That's Oregon STATE, dipshit. He was the best player on the team this year. He'd be a smokin deal for anyone in round 5.
I thought I read it as Oregon. But Oregon, Oregon St. what's the difference to us?
Oh, wait.....the difference is that Oregon St. has produced busts at QB, like Terry Baker, Derek Anderson, Erik Wilhelm, Matt Moore.
....and not a single Hall of Fame player.
While Oregon has produce Hall of Famer, like Norm Van Brocklin and Dan Fouts...plus other HOFers like Mel Renfro, Gary Zimmerman, Tuffy Leemans, Dave Wilcox.
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That's Oregon STATE, dipshit. He was the best player on the team this year. He'd be a smokin deal for anyone in round 5.
I thought I read it as Oregon. But Oregon, Oregon St. what's the difference to us?
Oh, wait.....the difference is that Oregon St. has produced busts at QB, like Terry Baker, Derek Anderson, Erik Wilhelm, Matt Moore.
....and not a single Hall of Fame player.
While Oregon has produce Hall of Famer, like Norm Van Brocklin and Dan Fouts...plus other HOFers like Mel Renfro, Gary Zimmerman, Tuffy Leemans, Dave Wilcox.
I thought I read it as Oregon. But Oregon, Oregon St. what's the difference to us?
Oh, wait.....the difference is that Oregon St. has produced busts at QB, like Terry Baker, Derek Anderson, Erik Wilhelm, Matt Moore.
....and not a single Hall of Fame player.
While Oregon has produce Hall of Famer, like Norm Van Brocklin and Dan Fouts...plus other HOFers like Mel Renfro, Gary Zimmerman, Tuffy Leemans, Dave Wilcox.
The other difference is that Oregon State sucks.
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(GRADE: A-)
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 12: Danny Shelton, DT, Washington (A)
Round 1 Pick 27 (DAL): Nate Orchard, OLB/DE, Utah (B-)
Round 2 Pick 11: Devin Smith, WR, Ohio State (A-)
Round 2 Pick 28 (DAL): Garrett Grayson, QB, Colorado State
Round 3 Pick 13: Kevin White, CB, TCU (A-)
Round 3 Pick 27 (DAL): Ali Marpet, OG, Hobart & William Smith (C+)
Round 4 Pick 12: B.J. Finney, C, Kansas State (
Round 4 Pick 16: Breshad Perriman, WR, UCF (B-)
Round 5 Pick 11: Jeff Heuerman, TE, Ohio State (B+)
Round 6 Pick 13: Max Valles, OLB, Virginia (D)
Round 6 Pick 26: Jalston Fowler, FB, Alabama (A)
Round 7 Pick 12: Tevin McDonald, FS/SS, Eastern Washington (C+)If Shelton is available, this line up here is a god damn home run.
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Orchard's an interesting DE-->OLB convertion candidate. Stout and moves well... Have you watched him?
Two others in more or less the same mold are Kikaha and Golden are projected to go a round or so later.
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Orchard's an interesting DE-->OLB convertion candidate. Stout and moves well... Have you watched him?
Two others in more or less the same mold are Kikaha and Golden are projected to go a round or so later.
Orchard's an interesting DE-->OLB convertion candidate. Stout and moves well... Have you watched him?
Two others in more or less the same mold are Kikaha and Golden are projected to go a round or so later.
Yes, I have. When all is said and done I think he could be the most complete OLB prospect from this draft with a couple years of development. An above average pass rusher
and a smart coverage backer when dropping. The thing its hardest to teach isn't so much hand usage, but naturally just 'having' it. Orchard has that hand usage.
Dupree physically reminds me of tOSU's own Vernon Gholston. Great physical stature, good straight line speed. His pass rushing moves leave something to be desired as you certainly wont consistently beat NFL tackles with a bull rush. (Although Big Vern didn't play much from a 2point)
In my draft, when I got Shelton, I went similar to how I felt the Patriots would operate. Take that 19th pick, trade down for better value and leverage into more high 2nd round picks where good players can still be found in the top 50. In regards to the draft position, Orchard is a 2nd/fringe 1st for the Browns. When you're past 25th pick I consider that damn near the next round. I had no qualm taking him there.
Taking Devin was a no brainer at that point. Vertical threat that can also high point a ball over a DB which neither Benji, Gabriel or Hawk is capable of. (Another tOSU player reference - Terry Glenn minus the elite burst)
Getting Dallas late 2nd/fringe 3rd rounder I took Grayson. I have a feeling if he throws at the combine, plus his workouts, he'll climb a bit and more than justify this spot. Strong in the pocket, doesn't sit on his first read, good arm strength and good mobility. This would be a GREAT pick at this spot. I'll go out on the limb now and say he's this years version of Derek Carr. Mark my words, if the Browns pass on him in the 2nd round, we will regret it down the road.
Kevin White - I don't have to see combine on this kid to know he's a baller. I love Kwuan, I love Desir's potential but he could very well be an elite slot defender one day. edit:
Doesn't Kwaun also have 2 concussions under his belt already? Just another reason I love this pick.
Marpet - small school kid is about the only knock on him. Quite athletic and moves well laterally. If we want this offense to hum along with the zone stretch, he's a good mid rounder.
Finney - hard to go wrong with a steady, smart kid who has been very consistent over his career. Nothing he does will jump out at you, but nothing he does wrong will either.
4th round and beyond is where things get interesting. I might be the only person that truly enjoys watching tape on late round to UDFA guys.
Perrimen is projected late 4th rounder. Physical abilities are all there, love me some UCF receivers (Brandon Marshall, anymore?) his route tree game needs to be shined.
However this is the knock I heard about Alshon Jeffery whom he compares very well too physically.
Heurman. I saw how effective he was when the Bucks threw to their TE's. He might not be as good an inline blocker as Vannett, but I think he's a bigger threat down the seam.
We could use that athletic mismatch to help replace Cameron.
Max Valles might be the most interesting pick in my mock. Everybody knows about Eli Harold. This kid has all the ability (6'5, 240. Long arms, good speed) has decent stats. Was asked to play contain a bit. He simply plays hesitant when rushing the passer and needs work on his hand usage. If he can be had this late, with proper development might return a better yield in regard to where his counterpart will be drafted. To simplify, I think Harold will be overdrafted. This kid will be underdrafted when we look back in 3-4 years as a finished product. At worst he turns into what Mingo is now, a coverage WLB/ROLB.
Fowler because he's a fullback that can move.
McDonald because on tape, the kid has all the mental make up for the position in the world. Just none of the prototypical size.
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I went back to fansspeak and use the buffalobills simulator which was recently added. Amazing how far up WR Tyler Lockett has gone, now up to #35 pick overall in that one.
It seems more realistic than the original. Still can't trade up or down though.
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in this one they had white going @10 and mariota @ 11. if that were to happen i think farmer would have to pull out the trade cards.
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When jake fisher was out this year the ducks nearly lost to the Washington state Cougars. He really deserves to be at the top of the boards, unlike mariota.
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Orchard's an interesting DE-->OLB convertion candidate. Stout and moves well... Have you watched him?
Two others in more or less the same mold are Kikaha and Golden are projected to go a round or so later.
Orchard's an interesting DE-->OLB convertion candidate. Stout and moves well... Have you watched him?Two others in more or less the same mold are Kikaha and Golden are projected to go a round or so later.
I saw Nate orchard play in person last fall in Corvallis. he was unstoppable. i can still hear the announcer calling his name over and over and over.
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I think the fanspeak simulator has made some adjustments-otherwsie I don't get this kind of draft.
Green-Beckham as a 7th rounder? Are you kidding me? I had to take a 4th WR with him still on the board. Even with problems he is too great a value pick there.
12: R1P12DT DANNY SHELTONWASHINGTON19: R1P19ILB ERIC KENDRICKSUCLA43: R2P11OT JAKE FISHEROREGON77: R3P13WR BRESHAD PERRIMANCENTRAL FLORIDA108: R4P12WR JAMISON CROWDERDUKE112: R4P16G ALI MARPETHOBART139: R5P11WR PHILLIP DORSETTMIAMI (FLORIDA)173: R6P13OT D.J. HUMPHRIESFLORIDA186: R6P26DT CHRISTIAN COVINGTONRICE204: R7P12WR DORIAL GREEN-BECKHAMMISSOURI -
Tour - have you ever subscribed to fanspeak premium for the $5.95 price? Looks like you get a lot of extra information in April just before the draft. Opinion?
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Orchard's an interesting DE-->OLB convertion candidate. Stout and moves well... Have you watched him?Two others in more or less the same mold are Kikaha and Golden are projected to go a round or so later.
I saw Nate orchard play in person last fall in Corvallis. he was unstoppable. i can still hear the announcer calling his name over and over and over.
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Tour - have you ever subscribed to fanspeak premium for the $5.95 price? Looks like you get a lot of extra information in April just before the draft. Opinion?
More and more lately I end up in no-man's land at #12 and 19. Especially I the Fan Speak sim where I'm either taking a really good player at a position of low need or reaching...
Tour - have you ever subscribed to fanspeak premium for the $5.95 price? Looks like you get a lot of extra information in April just before the draft. Opinion?
Have never looked into this... but by April I'm just ready to watch the real thing and say, "WTF".
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I'm not 100% convinced this is particularly accurate in anything:
1a: Marcus Mariota, QB1b: Kevin White, WR
2: Cameron Erving, T
3: Devin Funchess, TE/WR
4a: Henry Anderson, DE
4b: Devin Smith, WR
A bit receiver-heavy, but with the players where they were, it represented great value.
I'm not 100% convinced this is particularly accurate in anything:
1a: Marcus Mariota, QB
1b: Kevin White, WR
2: Cameron Erving, T
3: Devin Funchess, TE/WR
4a: Henry Anderson, DE
4b: Devin Smith, WR
A bit receiver-heavy, but with the players where they were, it represented great value.
That would be amazing, lol.
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12: R1P12
WR KEVIN WHITEWVU19: R1P19
OLB VIC BEASLEYCLEMSON43: R2P11
G A.J. CANNSOUTH CAROLINA77: R3P13
DT CARL DAVISIOWA108: R4P12
DE ZADARIUS SMITHKENTUCKY112: R4P16
OT DONOVAN SMITHPENN STATE139: R5P11
WR JAMISON CROWDERDUKE173: R6P13
S ADRIAN AMOSPENN STATE186: R6P26
ILB TREY DEPRIESTALABAMA204: R7P12
C MAX GARCIAFLORIDA -
12: R1P12DT DANNY SHELTONWASHINGTON19: R1P19OLB VIC BEASLEYCLEMSON43: R2P11WR DEVIN FUNCHESSMICHIGAN77: R3P13DE NATE ORCHARDUTAH108: R4P12TE JEFF HEUERMANOHIO STATE112: R4P16OT DONOVAN SMITHPENN STATE139: R5P11C B.J. FINNEYKANSAS STATE173: R6P13ILB HAYES PULLARDUSC186: R6P26S ADRIAN AMOSPENN STATE204: R7P12WR ANDRE DAVISSOUTH FLORID
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