Fanspeak draft simulator (You make the picks)

[tiamat63]

(GRADE: A-)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 12: Danny Shelton, DT, Washington (A)
Round 1 Pick 27 (DAL): Nate Orchard, OLB/DE, Utah (B-)
Round 2 Pick 11: Devin Smith, WR, Ohio State (A-)
Round 2 Pick 28 (DAL): Garrett Grayson, QB, Colorado State
Round 3 Pick 13: Kevin White, CB, TCU (A-)
Round 3 Pick 27 (DAL): Ali Marpet, OG, Hobart & William Smith (C+)
Round 4 Pick 12: B.J. Finney, C, Kansas State (
Round 4 Pick 16: Breshad Perriman, WR, UCF (B-)
Round 5 Pick 11: Jeff Heuerman, TE, Ohio State (B+)
Round 6 Pick 13: Max Valles, OLB, Virginia (D)
Round 6 Pick 26: Jalston Fowler, FB, Alabama (A)
Round 7 Pick 12: Tevin McDonald, FS/SS, Eastern Washington (C+)

If Shelton is available, this line up here is a god damn home run.

[Tour2ma]

Orchard's an interesting DE-->OLB convertion candidate. Stout and moves well... Have you watched him?

Two others in more or less the same mold are Kikaha and Golden are projected to go a round or so later.

[tiamat63]

@tour2ma said:

Orchard's an interesting DE-->OLB convertion candidate. Stout and moves well... Have you watched him?

Two others in more or less the same mold are Kikaha and Golden are projected to go a round or so later.

Yes, I have. When all is said and done I think he could be the most complete OLB prospect from this draft with a couple years of development. An above average pass rusher

and a smart coverage backer when dropping. The thing its hardest to teach isn't so much hand usage, but naturally just 'having' it. Orchard has that hand usage.

Dupree physically reminds me of tOSU's own Vernon Gholston. Great physical stature, good straight line speed. His pass rushing moves leave something to be desired as you certainly wont consistently beat NFL tackles with a bull rush. (Although Big Vern didn't play much from a 2point)

In my draft, when I got Shelton, I went similar to how I felt the Patriots would operate. Take that 19th pick, trade down for better value and leverage into more high 2nd round picks where good players can still be found in the top 50. In regards to the draft position, Orchard is a 2nd/fringe 1st for the Browns. When you're past 25th pick I consider that damn near the next round. I had no qualm taking him there.

Taking Devin was a no brainer at that point. Vertical threat that can also high point a ball over a DB which neither Benji, Gabriel or Hawk is capable of. (Another tOSU player reference - Terry Glenn minus the elite burst)

Getting Dallas late 2nd/fringe 3rd rounder I took Grayson. I have a feeling if he throws at the combine, plus his workouts, he'll climb a bit and more than justify this spot. Strong in the pocket, doesn't sit on his first read, good arm strength and good mobility. This would be a GREAT pick at this spot. I'll go out on the limb now and say he's this years version of Derek Carr. Mark my words, if the Browns pass on him in the 2nd round, we will regret it down the road.

Kevin White - I don't have to see combine on this kid to know he's a baller. I love Kwuan, I love Desir's potential but he could very well be an elite slot defender one day. edit:

Doesn't Kwaun also have 2 concussions under his belt already? Just another reason I love this pick.

Marpet - small school kid is about the only knock on him. Quite athletic and moves well laterally. If we want this offense to hum along with the zone stretch, he's a good mid rounder.

Finney - hard to go wrong with a steady, smart kid who has been very consistent over his career. Nothing he does will jump out at you, but nothing he does wrong will either.

4th round and beyond is where things get interesting. I might be the only person that truly enjoys watching tape on late round to UDFA guys.

Perrimen is projected late 4th rounder. Physical abilities are all there, love me some UCF receivers (Brandon Marshall, anymore?) his route tree game needs to be shined.

However this is the knock I heard about Alshon Jeffery whom he compares very well too physically.

Heurman. I saw how effective he was when the Bucks threw to their TE's. He might not be as good an inline blocker as Vannett, but I think he's a bigger threat down the seam.

We could use that athletic mismatch to help replace Cameron.

Max Valles might be the most interesting pick in my mock. Everybody knows about Eli Harold. This kid has all the ability (6'5, 240. Long arms, good speed) has decent stats. Was asked to play contain a bit. He simply plays hesitant when rushing the passer and needs work on his hand usage. If he can be had this late, with proper development might return a better yield in regard to where his counterpart will be drafted. To simplify, I think Harold will be overdrafted. This kid will be underdrafted when we look back in 3-4 years as a finished product. At worst he turns into what Mingo is now, a coverage WLB/ROLB.

Fowler because he's a fullback that can move.

McDonald because on tape, the kid has all the mental make up for the position in the world. Just none of the prototypical size.

[TexasAg1969]

I went back to fansspeak and use the buffalobills simulator which was recently added. Amazing how far up WR Tyler Lockett has gone, now up to #35 pick overall in that one.

It seems more realistic than the original. Still can't trade up or down though.

[miktoxic]

in this one they had white going @10 and mariota @ 11. if that were to happen i think farmer would have to pull out the trade cards.

[Lumbergh]

When jake fisher was out this year the ducks nearly lost to the Washington state Cougars. He really deserves to be at the top of the boards, unlike mariota.

[Lumbergh]

@tour2ma said:

Orchard's an interesting DE-->OLB convertion candidate. Stout and moves well... Have you watched him?Two others in more or less the same mold are Kikaha and Golden are projected to go a round or so later.

I saw Nate orchard play in person last fall in Corvallis. he was unstoppable. i can still hear the announcer calling his name over and over and over.

[TexasAg1969]

I think the fanspeak simulator has made some adjustments-otherwsie I don't get this kind of draft.

Green-Beckham as a 7th rounder? Are you kidding me? I had to take a 4th WR with him still on the board. Even with problems he is too great a value pick there.

12: R1P12

DT DANNY SHELTON

WASHINGTON

19: R1P19

ILB ERIC KENDRICKS

UCLA

43: R2P11

OT JAKE FISHER

OREGON

77: R3P13

WR BRESHAD PERRIMAN

CENTRAL FLORIDA

108: R4P12

WR JAMISON CROWDER

DUKE

112: R4P16

G ALI MARPET

HOBART

139: R5P11

WR PHILLIP DORSETT

MIAMI (FLORIDA)

173: R6P13

OT D.J. HUMPHRIES

FLORIDA

186: R6P26

DT CHRISTIAN COVINGTON

RICE

204: R7P12

WR DORIAL GREEN-BECKHAM

MISSOURI

[TexasAg1969]

Tour - have you ever subscribed to fanspeak premium for the $5.95 price? Looks like you get a lot of extra information in April just before the draft. Opinion?

[tiamat63]

@lumbergh said:

I saw Nate orchard play in person last fall in Corvallis. he was unstoppable. i can still hear the announcer calling his name over and over and over.

Like I said. When all is said and done, I feel he will develop into the most complete OLB in this draft.

[Tour2ma]

More and more lately I end up in no-man's land at #12 and 19. Especially I the Fan Speak sim where I'm either taking a really good player at a position of low need or reaching...

@texasag1969 said:

Tour - have you ever subscribed to fanspeak premium for the $5.95 price? Looks like you get a lot of extra information in April just before the draft. Opinion?

Have never looked into this... but by April I'm just ready to watch the real thing and say, "WTF".

[MLD Woody]

@gftchris said:

I'm not 100% convinced this is particularly accurate in anything:

1a: Marcus Mariota, QB

1b: Kevin White, WR

2: Cameron Erving, T

3: Devin Funchess, TE/WR

4a: Henry Anderson, DE

4b: Devin Smith, WR

A bit receiver-heavy, but with the players where they were, it represented great value.

That would be amazing, lol.

[domcucch1994]

12: R1P12

WR KEVIN WHITE

WVU

19: R1P19

OLB VIC BEASLEY

CLEMSON

43: R2P11

G A.J. CANN

SOUTH CAROLINA

77: R3P13

DT CARL DAVIS

IOWA

108: R4P12

DE ZADARIUS SMITH

KENTUCKY

112: R4P16

OT DONOVAN SMITH

PENN STATE

139: R5P11

WR JAMISON CROWDER

DUKE

173: R6P13

S ADRIAN AMOS

PENN STATE

186: R6P26

ILB TREY DEPRIEST

ALABAMA

204: R7P12

C MAX GARCIA

FLORIDA

[darren15]

12: R1P12

DT DANNY SHELTON

WASHINGTON

19: R1P19

OLB VIC BEASLEY

CLEMSON

43: R2P11

WR DEVIN FUNCHESS

MICHIGAN

77: R3P13

DE NATE ORCHARD

UTAH

108: R4P12

TE JEFF HEUERMAN

OHIO STATE

112: R4P16

OT DONOVAN SMITH

PENN STATE

139: R5P11

C B.J. FINNEY

KANSAS STATE

173: R6P13

ILB HAYES PULLARD

USC

186: R6P26

S ADRIAN AMOS

PENN STATE

204: R7P12

WR ANDRE DAVIS

SOUTH FLORID

[Tour2ma]

Only a couple small trade downs in this one.

Your score is: 6197 (GRADE: A)

Round 1 Pick 12: Danny Shelton, DT, Washington (A)

Round 1 Pick 20 (PHI): T.J. Clemmings, OT, Pittsburgh (A-)

Round 2 Pick 11: Jaelen Strong, WR, Arizona State (A)

Round 2 Pick 24 (PITT): Jalen Collins, CB, LSU (B+)

Round 3 Pick 13: Jesse James, TE, Penn State (

Round 3 Pick 20 (PHI): Bryce Petty, QB, Baylor

Round 3 Pick 23 (PITT): Ali Marpet, OG, Hobart & William Smith (C+)

Round 4 Pick 12: Henry Anderson, DE, Stanford (A-)

Round 4 Pick 16: Devin Smith, WR, Ohio State (A)

Round 5 Pick 11: Ben Heeney, ILB, Kansas (B-)

Round 6 Pick 13: Justin Manton, K, Louisiana-Monroe (A-)

Round 6 Pick 26: Matt Jones, RB, Florida (A)

Round 7 Pick 12: Kyle Loomis, P, Portland State (B+)

[TexasAg1969]

They screwed you on Marpet at #23 in the 3rd round Tour-that should have been a B+ at a very minimum. Otherwise great draft.

I really like Kyle Loomis as a punter and hope the Browns take him if there in the 7th.

[Tour2ma]

TY... 6th and 7th are kicker/ punter territory... at least this year.

I knew I was reaching for Ali and Bryce and would get slammed, but when you want a player and have that many picks...WTH. Besides I never have figured out how to score near 7k in that sim, so I stopped trying.

What bothers me about it and the other sims now, is that our 19th pick is ending up in a desert. I managed one trade down, to 20, but then had no offers. So I was essentially forced to take Clemmings. Not a bad thing, but I'd have preferred an OLB. They were all gone.

[Mudfly]

@tour2ma said:

TY... 6th and 7th are kicker/ punter territory... at least this year.

I knew I was reaching for Ali and Bryce and would get slammed, but when you want a player and have that many picks...WTH. Besides I never have figured out how to score near 7k in that sim, so I stopped trying.

What bothers me about it and the other sims now, is that our 19th pick is ending up in a desert. I managed one trade down, to 20, but then had no offers. So I was essentially forced to take Clemmings. Not a bad thing, but I'd have preferred an OLB. They were all gone.

Im bet 6100-6500 everytime......never close to 7K....

my best have come by trading back from 12 to 13 to 14 etc......usually end up with something like the 20 & 21 picks, plus about 6 2nd rounders and extra 3rds.....ha!

Wish it worked this way in reality, because Id take the 2 late 1sts and 6-2nd rounders everytime...

[tiamat63]

I shot for something approaching realistic if Shelton is gone. White and Cooper were gone as well.

So this is my defense heavy draft to make up for that loss and subsequent trade downs.

The Saints desperately needed an OT, offered me their 2nd rounder to move up one spot. Yes, please.

The Panthers we're the same sitting at 25. Offered me their 2nd and 3rd rounder.

Round 1 Pick 13 (N.O.): Malcom Brown, DT, Texas (B+)
Round 1 Pick 25 (CAR): Nate Orchard, OLB/DE, Utah (B-)
Round 2 Pick 11: Devin Smith, WR, Ohio State (B+)
Round 2 Pick 12 (N.O.): Carl Davis, DT/DE, Iowa (C+)
Round 2 Pick 25 (CAR): Breshad Perriman, WR, UCF (B-)
Round 3 Pick 13: Garrett Grayson, QB, Colorado State (B-)
Round 3 Pick 25 (CAR): Kevin White, CB, TCU (B+)
Round 4 Pick 12: Ali Marpet, OG, Hobart & William Smith (
Round 4 Pick 16: B.J. Finney, C, Kansas State (B-)
Round 5 Pick 11: Jeff Heuerman, TE, Ohio State (B+)
Round 6 Pick 13: Anthony Jefferson, SS, UCLA
Round 6 Pick 26: Max Valles, OLB, Virginia (C-)
Round 7 Pick 12: Jeremiah Detmer, K, Toledo (F)

[Mudfly]

Defensive guys are hot now....all my picks for 12 were gone, so the ole trade back again.....almost all A's and still only 6557(glass ceiling?)

Your Picks:

Round 1 Pick 19: Kevin White, WR, West Virginia (A)

Round 1 Pick 21 (CINN): T.J. Clemmings, OT, Pittsburgh (A­)

Round 2 Pick 11: Eddie Goldman, DT, Florida State (A)

Round 2 Pick 12 (N.O.): Benardrick McKinney, ILB, Mississippi State (A­)

Round 2 Pick 17 (K.C.): Melvin Gordon, RB, Wisconsin (A)

Round 2 Pick 21 (CINN): Nate Orchard, OLB/DE, Utah (A)

Round 3 Pick 13: Josue Matias, OG, Florida State (A)

Round 3 Pick 16 (K.C.): Nick O'Leary, TE, Florida State (C+)

Round 3 Pick 21 (CINN): Andy Gallik, C, Boston College (A­)

Round 4 Pick 12: Bryce Petty, QB, Baylor (

Round 4 Pick 16: Steven Nelson, CB, Oregon State (A)

Round 5 Pick 11: Justin Hardy, WR, East Carolina (A)

Round 6 Pick 13: Tyler Varga, FB, Yale (A)

Round 6 Pick 26: Zach Wagenmann, DE, Montana (B+)

Round 7 Pick 12: Kyle Brindza, K, Notre Dame (A)