2015 - FA / Draft / Notes
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You make Collins sound like a good SS candidate.
I wouldn't go as far as to say he's a good SS candidate, but I wasn't very impressive with Durell Eskridge. Collins might just be a better prospect, but not by a whole hell of a lot.
When I think of a SS in this defense, I think of Ward and Donte. Not afraid to come up and lay the lumber. Neither of those guys are in that mold, even for how physical Collins is at the CB spot.
Kevin White (TCU)... on the other hand. He looks like a smaller version of Haden in pads. He's the size of Buster, but plays much bigger than he is. Good wingspan, comfortable in off coverage, sound footwork, smooth back peddle with good balance because of his size. The thing that really sticks out to me that makes me draw the Haden comparison so much is 1) the willingness to come up and tackle 2) his ability to drive on the ball. That is was separates good corners from average corners. Your ability to see something, plant your foot and attack quickly. Joe has that, so does Kevin. I like what I see. I'm going to be watching this kid intently during the combine.
I wouldn't go as far as to say he's a good SS candidate, but I wasn't very impressive with Durell Eskridge. Collins might just be a better prospect, but not by a whole hell of a lot.
When I think of a SS in this defense, I think of Ward and Donte. Not afraid to come up and lay the lumber. Neither of those guys are in that mold, even for how physical Collins is at the CB spot.
Kevin White (TCU)... on the other hand. He looks like a smaller version of Haden in pads. He's the size of Buster, but plays much bigger than he is. Good wingspan, comfortable in off coverage, sound footwork, smooth back peddle with good balance because of his size. The thing that really sticks out to me that makes me draw the Haden comparison so much is 1) the willingness to come up and tackle 2) his ability to drive on the ball. That is was separates good corners from average corners. Your ability to see something, plant your foot and attack quickly. Joe has that, so does Kevin. I like what I see. I'm going to be watching this kid intently during the combine.
Physical, aggressive CB sounds right up Pettines lane.
We picked up another DB yesterday :
Mary Kay Cabot @MaryKayCabot · 21h 21 hours ago #Browns signed DB Varmah Sonie today. 5-8, 180, in first season out of Northern Iowa. Spent 2 weeks of on Bucs' practice squad in '14.
A bit smallish for my tastes, sounds a like Trufant from last year, just not durable enough to make it to the Season though.
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Some quick tidbits of interest :
Mary Kay Cabot @MaryKayCabot · 21h 21 hours ago Arizona State guard Jamil Douglas said he met with the #Browns at the Senior Bowl and here at the Combine.#nfldraft
Mary Kay Cabot @MaryKayCabot · 18h 18 hours ago Oklahoma TE Blake Bell said he talked to #Browns at East-West Shrine game and at Combine, informally. Has watched J. Cameron film #nfldraft
Daniel Jeremiah @MoveTheSticks · 2h 2 hours ago Mariota bigger than expected, Winston smaller than expected. Both 6'3 3/4
Uh oh :
Mary Kay Cabot @MaryKayCabot · 3m 3 minutes ago #Browns Farmer said he's done a cost-benefit analysis on trading up for a QB
Daryl Ruiter @RuiterWrongFAN · 19h 19 hours ago Pettine confirms Barkevious Mingo had successful surgery on shoulder #Browns
Daryl Ruiter @RuiterWrongFAN · 19h 19 hours ago Pettine said re-signing TE Jordan Cameron "being discussed" but w/cap "it's gotta be the right player 1st and it's gotta be the right price"
Pettine on Shanahan :
Daryl Ruiter @RuiterWrongFAN · 16h 16 hours ago "The bottom line is essentially that Kyle didn’t want to be a part of the organization. You can use the word quit. Those are the facts"
Daryl Ruiter @RuiterWrongFAN · 16h 16 hours ago "If a guy didn't want to be a part of it, I wasn't going to waste time on it. I didn't need to go through 32 points or whatever it was"
Daryl Ruiter @RuiterWrongFAN · 11m 11 minutes ago "There is a plan, there are names and there is a pecking order" - Farmer on QB plan
Hmmmm :
Mary Kay Cabot @MaryKayCabot · 18m 18 minutes ago #Browns on QB pool in free agency: "Just because a player didn't'' succeed in one place doesn't mean he won't succeed in another.
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Hit my quote limit on the above message ?
Dane Brugler @dpbrugler · Feb 17 Marcus Mariota & Brett Hundley almost identical on 3rd down this year: MM: 60-91 (65.9%) 4:1 TD:INT ratio BH: 60-91 (65.9%) 5:1 TD:INT ratio
Dane Brugler @dpbrugler · 23h 23 hours ago TE Maxx Williams has said he has official meetings with the Browns, Broncos and several others
Dane Brugler @dpbrugler · 3h 3 hours ago WR Nelson Agholor has met with only one team: Cleveland Browns
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Agholor is a 4th round receiver I've been wondering about.
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i'd run out and get the UHD curved joint from samsung.
I don't get the whole "curved" thing... not like I watch a lot of Cinerama...
Look it up kids...
Some quick tidbits of interest :
Uh oh :
Pettine on Shanahan :
Hmmmm :
Why is it every non-MKC tweet is attributed to a major figure in the Browns organization, but hers not so much?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Posted Yesterday, 04:45 PM
Agholor is a 4th round receiver I've been wondering about. tiam***********************************************Agholor will go higher than that after the combine. Think more like at least late second round.He's quite a player, just not a first rounder... imhso.
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i'd run out and get the UHD curved joint from samsung.
I don't get the whole "curved" thing... not like I watch a lot of Cinerama...
Look it up kids...
Some quick tidbits of interest :
Uh oh :
Pettine on Shanahan :
Hmmmm :
Why is it every non-MKC tweet is attributed to a major figure in the Browns organization, but hers not so much?
Why is it every non-MKC tweet is attributed to a major figure in the Browns organization, but hers not so much?
She usually brings up the tail end after everyone else has reported it, but she gets a scoop every once in a while.
Several others confirmed her posts, I just came across hers first so went with that.
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Starting to look like they're targeting mid to late WR's - missed this one yesterday :
Aaron WilsonVerified account @RavensInsider Stefon Diggs says he has met with the Ravens and Redskins and Browns
QB for yesterday missed as well :
Tony Grossi @TonyGrossi · 20h 20 hours ago UCLA QB Brett Hundley said he has met w #Browns at combine.
Wow . . . :
Tony Grossi @TonyGrossi · 20h 20 hours ago Baylor QB Bryce Petty said Senior Bowl was 1st time he experienced what a play call was.
Short piece on OL Bowie :
Dawg Pound Journal: Michael Bowie could compete for starting spot at right tackle
Posted 1 hour ago
Kevin Jones Staff Writer @Mr_KevinJones Facebook 
INDIANAPOLIS – Some NFL draft analysts milling around the NFL Combine have been keen on the Browns selecting a right tackle with one of their two selections in the first round.
Coach Mike Pettine said current right tackle Mitchell Schwartz
had some plays he wanted to take back, but overall had a solid year.Pettine didn’t shoot down upgrading the position, and he went out of his way to remind the media the Browns have stashed away a player who could end up being a starter: Michael Bowie
.“We got him from Seattle,” Pettine reminded reporters. “He had his shoulder operated on and he sat out the whole year. We’re very interested to see what he brings to the table. Whether he can give us some depth there or compete for a starting position.”
The Seahawks had hoped to keep Bowie but the Browns plucked him back in August. The 6-foot-5, 320-pounder started eight games for Seattle in 2013, the year the franchise won the Super Bowl. Bowie is regarded as a staunch, athletic run blocker.
“We want guys to come in and push to make us better as a football team,” Browns general manager Ray Farmer said.
Bowie is entering his third season from Northeastern State (Okla.)
(Another) Red Flag ? :
Marcus Mariota says his biggest adjustment will be huddling
No QB, DL depleted, WR's out . . . where's this coming from ? :
Dawg Pound Journal: NFL Network’s Ian Rapoport thinks Browns will be in 2015 playoff hunt
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#Jags receiver Cecil Shorts would be interested in signing with hometown team #Browns, I'm told http://espn.go.com/blog/cleveland-browns/post/_/id/11898/browns-free-agency-buzz-on-brian-hoyer-cecil-shorts
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Post may be more appropriate here...
The mid round WR I'm intrigued by is the kid from E. Carolina, Justin Hardy. And my "who's that WR", Combine moment was provided by Chris Conley.
Of the RBs Ameer Abdullah impressed and Matt Jones reinforced my FB conversion vision for him.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
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What the heck is up with all these QB's that can't call a play in the huddle?? thanks NCAA, Manziel had no clue at this all preseason with no head in the books, Who's next?? Bortle's and Carr give Hope.. 12 or 19 where does Hundley fall and Maxx fall, interesting?? No needs at 19? Still may want to get to picks 11 and 12 or 12 and 13..(Give up pick 19 and a 2nd rounder) but not for Maxx I would not think. Like mid round WR, still like Hobart Kid at OL.But where the hell is the run stopper??
Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends -
More of a case of haven't than can't to my mind. So much hurry-up, many College QBs haven't been asked to call plays in the huddle. Of more concern to me are their lack practice in making sight adjustments with those coming from the sidelines as well.
Hundley has been projected as a second rounder; Maxx late first or 2nd. IMO either would be a terrible waste of a mid 1st, let alone both...
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What I got from this combine, in regards to wide receivers: I have completely bought into the Amari Cooper hype. I like him more than Kevin White, and with Kevin White's stock at an all time high, I actually believe there's chance he'll still be there come pick #12.
What do you guys think about Amari Cooper @ 12?
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What I got from this combine, in regards to wide receivers: I have completely bought into the Amari Cooper hype. I like him more than Kevin White, and with Kevin White's stock at an all time high, I actually believe there's chance he'll still be there come pick #12.
What do you guys think about Amari Cooper @ 12?
What I got from this combine, in regards to wide receivers: I have completely bought into the Amari Cooper hype. I like him more than Kevin White, and with Kevin White's stock at an all time high, I actually believe there's chance he'll still be there come pick #12.
What do you guys think about Amari Cooper @ 12?
That depends on if Shelton is available.
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What I got from this combine, in regards to wide receivers: I have completely bought into the Amari Cooper hype. I like him more than Kevin White, and with Kevin White's stock at an all time high, I actually believe there's chance he'll still be there come pick #12.
What do you guys think about Amari Cooper @ 12?
That depends on if Shelton is available.
That depends on if Shelton is available.
If Cooper is there Shelton will be gone. Then you have to ask if Brown will still be there at 19.
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If Cooper is there Shelton will be gone. Then you have to ask if Brown will still be there at 19.
If Shelton is gone, yes - I take Cooper. At 19 Brown won't be available. I'd trade out of the 1st round at that point. I'll take any combination of Carl Davis, then Orchard, Michael Bennett or the nex best DE/T available in the 2nd.
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What the heck is up with all these QB's that can't call a play in the huddle?? thanks NCAA, Manziel had no clue at this all preseason with no head in the books, Who's next?? Bortle's and Carr give Hope.. 12 or 19 where does Hundley fall and Maxx fall, interesting?? No needs at 19? Still may want to get to picks 11 and 12 or 12 and 13..(Give up pick 19 and a 2nd rounder) but not for Maxx I would not think. Like mid round WR, still like Hobart Kid at OL.But where the hell is the run stopper??
What the heck is up with all these QB's that can't call a play in the huddle?? thanks NCAA, Manziel had no clue at this all preseason with no head in the books, Who's next?? Bortle's and Carr give Hope.. 12 or 19 where does Hundley fall and Maxx fall, interesting?? No needs at 19? Still may want to get to picks 11 and 12 or 12 and 13..(Give up pick 19 and a 2nd rounder) but not for Maxx I would not think. Like mid round WR, still like Hobart Kid at OL.But where the hell is the run stopper??
A few days old, but this speaks to it :
“Seeing the guys coming out of the systems now where the coach holds a card up, the players line up, he kicks his foot and they play football — the hardest thing for them is to get into a huddle and call a play,” Arians said. “They’re stuttering, they’re stammering, the guys around them don’t believe in them. That’s that leadership thing. That’s the hardest thing for these young quarterbacks who play in these systems…they have to learn how to play quarterback at this level and sometimes that’s overwhelming.”
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After this combine, i doubt Shelton drops past the top 10
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