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National Geographic - The War On Science

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    http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2015/03/science-doubters/achenbach-text

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    http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2015/01/150129-public-opinion-aaas-health-education-science/

    http://www.pewinternet.org/2015/01/29/public-and-scientists-views-on-science-and-society/

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    "A lot of scientific issues have become politicized," Miller says. "I think this report is kind of tiptoeing around that reality, where the [u.S.] Republican party has sought political support from voters with religious views who are often hostile to science."

    http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2015-01/asa-mrp012615.php

    "Ours is the first study of the U.S. public that examines perspectives on science and religion in tandem," he said. "In doing so, our study uncovers a previously unidentified group of well-informed people who are appreciative of science and technology's social uses, but who are deeply religious and who reject certain scientific theories in favor of religious ones."

    Among these post-seculars, more than 90 percent agree with contemporary scientific theories about geology, radioactivity, and planetary motion, but only 6 percent believe that the universe began with a huge explosion. Even fewer -- 3 percent of post-seculars -- agree that humans evolved from earlier animals.

    In addition, 48 percent of post-seculars believe that the Bible is the literal word of God, compared to 31 percent of all U.S.adults, 46 percent of traditionals, and 3 percent of moderns. Post-seculars also report the greatest strength of religious affiliation as compared to traditionals and moderns.

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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      DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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      ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.

      "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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        VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by
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        Just curious, would everyone mind putting their answers in?

        I'm pretty much in line with the AAAS (shocking, given my career as a scientist). I'm in the middle when it comes to drilling and fracking. I believe that astronauts are an integral part of the NASA mission even though the majority of probes we send up are robots.

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          Oh damn, I guess my follow up post didn't save. It was basically me agreeing with the general premise and saying how it mirrors what we see on here sometimes.

          Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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            "A lot of scientific issues have become politicized," Miller says. "I think this report is kind of tiptoeing around that reality, where the [u.S.] Republican party has sought political support from voters with religious views who are often hostile to science."

            demagogue much?

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              "A lot of scientific issues have become politicized," Miller says. "I think this report is kind of tiptoeing around that reality, where the [u.S.] Republican party has sought political support from voters with religious views who are often hostile to science."

              demagogue much?

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              @fairhooker11 said:

              "A lot of scientific issues have become politicized," Miller says. "I think this report is kind of tiptoeing around that reality, where the [u.S.] Republican party has sought political support from voters with religious views who are often hostile to science."

              demagogue much?

              That's the US two-party political system in a nutshell. Keep the masses split on issues like abortion and gun control, meanwhile both parties are responsible for giving more and more rights to corporate entities while reducing the rights of the individual.

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                Sienn13S Sienn13 wrote on last edited by
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                Is this like the War on Women? Inquiring minds want to know?

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                  @fairhooker11 said:

                  "A lot of scientific issues have become politicized," Miller says. "I think this report is kind of tiptoeing around that reality, where the [u.S.] Republican party has sought political support from voters with religious views who are often hostile to science."

                  demagogue much?

                  That's the US two-party political system in a nutshell. Keep the masses split on issues like abortion and gun control, meanwhile both parties are responsible for giving more and more rights to corporate entities while reducing the rights of the individual.

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                  @vaportrail said:

                  That's the US two-party political system in a nutshell. Keep the masses split on issues like abortion and gun control, meanwhile both parties are responsible for giving more and more rights to corporate entities while reducing the rights of the individual.

                  That's human nature in that nutshell. Three parties four parties five parties a hundred won't change that.

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                    One section at a time. In the biomedical section I agree with the scientists on every issue. The one I have a problem with is research on animals. If it's necessary, I mean really necessary, I'm okay with it though I don't particularly love it. If it's not truly necessary and starts to overlap with animal cruelty which I believe it can then... The rest fine with me.

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                      Section number 2 I mostly agree with the scientists though I'm not sure what the ratio is of mankind and global warming. I do think mankind has an effect. I also think that the population could presented a serious problem. Fracking offshore drilling are both fine withe fossil fuels until the next shit is Might as well use the fossil fuels until the next shit is ready to go. I really don't think cutting into the food supply for the inefficient fuel it produces is a good idea. Screw biofuel. Energy will be cheaper and more efficient especially if people quit being pussies about nuclear energy. Space stations? Too soon to tell if they're worth the investment, not so far. Astronauts? I would think not for a long time will they be necessary. As long as it takes a lifetime to get anywhere else with wife unmanned probes are all we have.

                      did I miss anything?

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                        One section at a time. In the biomedical section I agree with the scientists on every issue. The one I have a problem with is research on animals. If it's necessary, I mean really necessary, I'm okay with it though I don't particularly love it. If it's not truly necessary and starts to overlap with animal cruelty which I believe it can then... The rest fine with me.

                        WSS

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                        @westside-steve said:

                        One section at a time. In the biomedical section I agree with the scientists on every issue. The one I have a problem with is research on animals. If it's necessary, I mean really necessary, I'm okay with it though I don't particularly love it. If it's not truly necessary and starts to overlap with animal cruelty which I believe it can then... The rest fine with me.

                        WSS

                        Animal testing is probably miserable for every animal involved, but IUCACs are in place at every US research facility to make sure the animals are treated as humanely as possible while still meeting the needs of the research project. Animal research cannot be conducted without IUCAC approval. Nearly every Nobel prize for Physiology and Medicine has been awarded to research that utilized an animal model. Without animal research, medicine wouldn't even be a shadow of what it is today.

                        Here's a list of those Nobel prizes and the animals they used: http://www.animalresearch.info/en/medical-advances/nobel-prizes/

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                          DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                          Fuck Nobel prizes. Obama won the Nobel Peace prize before he even held office for a few months. LMFAO!

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                            Fuck Nobel prizes. Obama won the Nobel Peace prize before he even held office for a few months. LMFAO!

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                            @diehardbrownsfan said:

                            Fuck Nobel prizes. Obama won the Nobel Peace prize before he even held office for a few months. LMFAO!

                            Their peace prize is a joke, but their science prizes are the real deal.

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                              @diehardbrownsfan said:

                              Fuck Nobel prizes. Obama won the Nobel Peace prize before he even held office for a few months. LMFAO!

                              Their peace prize is a joke, but their science prizes are the real deal.

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                              @vaportrail said:

                              Their peace prize is a joke, but their science prizes are the real deal.

                              Says who?

                              "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                                @vaportrail said:

                                Their peace prize is a joke, but their science prizes are the real deal.

                                Says who?

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                                VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by
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                                @browns149 said:

                                Says who?

                                Says me.

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                                  @westside-steve said:

                                  One section at a time. In the biomedical section I agree with the scientists on every issue. The one I have a problem with is research on animals. If it's necessary, I mean really necessary, I'm okay with it though I don't particularly love it. If it's not truly necessary and starts to overlap with animal cruelty which I believe it can then... The rest fine with me.

                                  WSS

                                  Animal testing is probably miserable for every animal involved, but IUCACs are in place at every US research facility to make sure the animals are treated as humanely as possible while still meeting the needs of the research project. Animal research cannot be conducted without IUCAC approval. Nearly every Nobel prize for Physiology and Medicine has been awarded to research that utilized an animal model. Without animal research, medicine wouldn't even be a shadow of what it is today.

                                  Here's a list of those Nobel prizes and the animals they used: http://www.animalresearch.info/en/medical-advances/nobel-prizes/

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                                  @vaportrail said:

                                  Animal testing is probably miserable for every animal involved, but IUCACs are in place at every US research facility to make sure the animals are treated as humanely as possible while still meeting the needs of the research project. Animal research cannot be conducted without IUCAC approval. Nearly every Nobel prize for Physiology and Medicine has been awarded to research that utilized an animal model. Without animal research, medicine wouldn't even be a shadow of what it is today.

                                  Here's a list of those Nobel prizes and the animals they used: http://www.animalresearch.info/en/medical-advances/nobel-prizes/

                                  Oh I'm not disputing the benefits. I just don't like it and what to make sure there's absolutely no unnecessary cruelty allowed.

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                                    bio med sciences aside-

                                    the chart above isnt only skewed towards the left, its an obama led paradigm shift!

                                    I mean every red blooded tea party libertarian republican WANTS fracking

                                    the wimpy fracking total above smacks of liberal mass transit types!

                                    also - no self respecting republican will agree with such high total favoritism with bio fuels!

                                    it costs more $$ to develop than to offset benefit!

                                    our motto on spending money for failed endeavors are an anathema 😉

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                                      I'd rather test in humanely on convicted murderers. No shortage of them and fuck em.

                                      Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                                        I'd rather test in humanely on convicted murderers. No shortage of them and fuck em.

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                                        @the-cysko-kid said:

                                        I'd rather test in humanely on convicted murderers. No shortage of them and fuck em.

                                        Like Unit 731? No thanks.

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                                          I'd rather test in humanely on convicted murderers. No shortage of them and fuck em.

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                                          @the-cysko-kid said:

                                          I'd rather test in humanely on convicted murderers. No shortage of them and fuck em.

                                          Let them give something back to society.

                                          Tell me the results wouldn't have a great deal of benefit, Vapor.

                                          Needs of the one versus needs of the many?

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