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National Geographic - The War On Science

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  • Westside Steve W Dedicated Reacting Well Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Conversation Starter Week One Done One Year In One Month Later Very Popular
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    One section at a time. In the biomedical section I agree with the scientists on every issue. The one I have a problem with is research on animals. If it's necessary, I mean really necessary, I'm okay with it though I don't particularly love it. If it's not truly necessary and starts to overlap with animal cruelty which I believe it can then... The rest fine with me.

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      Section number 2 I mostly agree with the scientists though I'm not sure what the ratio is of mankind and global warming. I do think mankind has an effect. I also think that the population could presented a serious problem. Fracking offshore drilling are both fine withe fossil fuels until the next shit is Might as well use the fossil fuels until the next shit is ready to go. I really don't think cutting into the food supply for the inefficient fuel it produces is a good idea. Screw biofuel. Energy will be cheaper and more efficient especially if people quit being pussies about nuclear energy. Space stations? Too soon to tell if they're worth the investment, not so far. Astronauts? I would think not for a long time will they be necessary. As long as it takes a lifetime to get anywhere else with wife unmanned probes are all we have.

      did I miss anything?

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        One section at a time. In the biomedical section I agree with the scientists on every issue. The one I have a problem with is research on animals. If it's necessary, I mean really necessary, I'm okay with it though I don't particularly love it. If it's not truly necessary and starts to overlap with animal cruelty which I believe it can then... The rest fine with me.

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        @westside-steve said:

        One section at a time. In the biomedical section I agree with the scientists on every issue. The one I have a problem with is research on animals. If it's necessary, I mean really necessary, I'm okay with it though I don't particularly love it. If it's not truly necessary and starts to overlap with animal cruelty which I believe it can then... The rest fine with me.

        WSS

        Animal testing is probably miserable for every animal involved, but IUCACs are in place at every US research facility to make sure the animals are treated as humanely as possible while still meeting the needs of the research project. Animal research cannot be conducted without IUCAC approval. Nearly every Nobel prize for Physiology and Medicine has been awarded to research that utilized an animal model. Without animal research, medicine wouldn't even be a shadow of what it is today.

        Here's a list of those Nobel prizes and the animals they used: http://www.animalresearch.info/en/medical-advances/nobel-prizes/

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          DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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          Fuck Nobel prizes. Obama won the Nobel Peace prize before he even held office for a few months. LMFAO!

          "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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            Fuck Nobel prizes. Obama won the Nobel Peace prize before he even held office for a few months. LMFAO!

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            @diehardbrownsfan said:

            Fuck Nobel prizes. Obama won the Nobel Peace prize before he even held office for a few months. LMFAO!

            Their peace prize is a joke, but their science prizes are the real deal.

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              @diehardbrownsfan said:

              Fuck Nobel prizes. Obama won the Nobel Peace prize before he even held office for a few months. LMFAO!

              Their peace prize is a joke, but their science prizes are the real deal.

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              Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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              @vaportrail said:

              Their peace prize is a joke, but their science prizes are the real deal.

              Says who?

              "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                @vaportrail said:

                Their peace prize is a joke, but their science prizes are the real deal.

                Says who?

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                @browns149 said:

                Says who?

                Says me.

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                  @westside-steve said:

                  One section at a time. In the biomedical section I agree with the scientists on every issue. The one I have a problem with is research on animals. If it's necessary, I mean really necessary, I'm okay with it though I don't particularly love it. If it's not truly necessary and starts to overlap with animal cruelty which I believe it can then... The rest fine with me.

                  WSS

                  Animal testing is probably miserable for every animal involved, but IUCACs are in place at every US research facility to make sure the animals are treated as humanely as possible while still meeting the needs of the research project. Animal research cannot be conducted without IUCAC approval. Nearly every Nobel prize for Physiology and Medicine has been awarded to research that utilized an animal model. Without animal research, medicine wouldn't even be a shadow of what it is today.

                  Here's a list of those Nobel prizes and the animals they used: http://www.animalresearch.info/en/medical-advances/nobel-prizes/

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                  @vaportrail said:

                  Animal testing is probably miserable for every animal involved, but IUCACs are in place at every US research facility to make sure the animals are treated as humanely as possible while still meeting the needs of the research project. Animal research cannot be conducted without IUCAC approval. Nearly every Nobel prize for Physiology and Medicine has been awarded to research that utilized an animal model. Without animal research, medicine wouldn't even be a shadow of what it is today.

                  Here's a list of those Nobel prizes and the animals they used: http://www.animalresearch.info/en/medical-advances/nobel-prizes/

                  Oh I'm not disputing the benefits. I just don't like it and what to make sure there's absolutely no unnecessary cruelty allowed.

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                    bio med sciences aside-

                    the chart above isnt only skewed towards the left, its an obama led paradigm shift!

                    I mean every red blooded tea party libertarian republican WANTS fracking

                    the wimpy fracking total above smacks of liberal mass transit types!

                    also - no self respecting republican will agree with such high total favoritism with bio fuels!

                    it costs more $$ to develop than to offset benefit!

                    our motto on spending money for failed endeavors are an anathema 😉

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                      I'd rather test in humanely on convicted murderers. No shortage of them and fuck em.

                      Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                        I'd rather test in humanely on convicted murderers. No shortage of them and fuck em.

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                        @the-cysko-kid said:

                        I'd rather test in humanely on convicted murderers. No shortage of them and fuck em.

                        Like Unit 731? No thanks.

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                          I'd rather test in humanely on convicted murderers. No shortage of them and fuck em.

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                          @the-cysko-kid said:

                          I'd rather test in humanely on convicted murderers. No shortage of them and fuck em.

                          Let them give something back to society.

                          Tell me the results wouldn't have a great deal of benefit, Vapor.

                          Needs of the one versus needs of the many?

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                            MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                            Cuz fuck all that "freedom" stuff our country likes to talk about

                            Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                              bio med sciences aside-

                              the chart above isnt only skewed towards the left, its an obama led paradigm shift!

                              I mean every red blooded tea party libertarian republican WANTS fracking

                              the wimpy fracking total above smacks of liberal mass transit types!

                              also - no self respecting republican will agree with such high total favoritism with bio fuels!

                              it costs more $$ to develop than to offset benefit!

                              our motto on spending money for failed endeavors are an anathema 😉

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                              MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                              @fairhooker11 said:

                              bio med sciences aside-

                              the chart above isnt only skewed towards the left, its an obama led paradigm shift!

                              I mean every red blooded tea party libertarian republican WANTS fracking

                              the wimpy fracking total above smacks of liberal mass transit types!

                              also - no self respecting republican will agree with such high total favoritism with bio fuels!

                              it costs more $$ to develop than to offset benefit!

                              our motto on spending money for failed endeavors are an anathema 😉

                              If these items were shifted as you perceive them then it would just further make tho article's point

                              Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                @the-cysko-kid said:

                                I'd rather test in humanely on convicted murderers. No shortage of them and fuck em.

                                Like Unit 731? No thanks.

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                                @vaportrail said:

                                Like Unit 731? No thanks.

                                Are you talking about the Japanese? I doubt many scientists would perform thr kind of things they were doing and it was disgusting but they weren't testing on the dregs of society but plain old subjugated citizens.

                                And Like it or not they made medical advances

                                Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                                  Cuz fuck all that "freedom" stuff our country likes to talk about

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                                  @mld-woody said:

                                  Cuz fuck all that "freedom" stuff our country likes to talk about

                                  You give up your freedom when you're a convicted murderer. That's the whole point of prison.

                                  Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                                    @mld-woody said:

                                    Cuz fuck all that "freedom" stuff our country likes to talk about

                                    You give up your freedom when you're a convicted murderer. That's the whole point of prison.

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                                    Legacy FanL Legacy Fan wrote on last edited by
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                                    @the-cysko-kid said:

                                    You give up your freedom when you're a convicted murderer. That's the whole point of prison.

                                    Wait, what?? Really?
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                                      people in prison are free? News to me.

                                      Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                                        I would think maybe asking death row inmates if they wanted to volunteer for experimental treatments and other such things would be ethically fine. But forcing prisoners to submit to medical tests and procedures would make us another Nazi Germany.

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                                          I would think maybe asking death row inmates if they wanted to volunteer for experimental treatments and other such things would be ethically fine. But forcing prisoners to submit to medical tests and procedures would make us another Nazi Germany.

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                                          @diehardbrownsfan said:

                                          I would think maybe asking death row inmates if they wanted to volunteer for experimental treatments and other such things would be ethically fine. But forcing prisoners to submit to medical tests and procedures would make us another Nazi Germany.

                                          Well just to be the devil's advocate we do require them to submit to the gas chamber or whatever form of execution the state uses...

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