Browns sign Josh McCown to 3 year contract
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http://www.cleveland...12-7e9a125abb2a
Pettine laid out the strategy clearly for 2015. He wants to build the defense into one of the better defenses in the league. He never talks about having confidence some veteran qb is going to come in and be the difference maker. He is banking on our defense. He is the right HC to do it with his defensive background.
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Great, I expect our next signing to be a stud DT and we'll draft QB mauler Vic Beasler or HoneyBadger 5.0 turnover/playmaker machine Shaq Thompson at #12. The D will be positioned to transition to perennial playoff form.
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Agree that Pettine is the right guy, Farmer may prove the right guy at GM by hitting on top picks this year (at least) and not chasing QB/WR beyond their true value. I like the moves made to coach QB play.... we're GOING SOMEWHERE GOOOOOOOD
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who doesn't like this signing?
why don't you shut the fuck up?
another member on the forum just to bitch and complain?
this is tiresome already.
if life is this bad for you because the browns signedd mccown then do us all a favor: pin a note on your shirt and go hang your self in the closet. at least someone at the end of the day going to hang up their coat will have some good news.
who doesn't like this signing?
why don't you shut the fuck up?
another member on the forum just to bitch and complain?
this is tiresome already.
if life is this bad for you because the browns signedd mccown then do us all a favor: pin a note on your shirt and go hang your self in the closet. at least someone at the end of the day going to hang up their coat will have some good news.
I'd rather have Leonard Nimoy . . . RIP
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Agree that Pettine is the right guy, Farmer may prove the right guy at GM by hitting on top picks this year (at least) and not chasing QB/WR beyond their true value. I like the moves made to coach QB play.... we're GOING SOMEWHERE GOOOOOOOD
Agree that Pettine is the right guy, Farmer may prove the right guy at GM by hitting on top picks this year (at least) and not chasing QB/WR beyond their true value. I like the moves made to coach QB play.... we're GOING SOMEWHERE GOOOOOOOD
We finally got the right HC. I like where he is going with the emphasis on defense in 2015. The team does have talent. Pettine also believes on the offensive side we will have one of the better O lines in the league.
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Went 1-10 last season .....will fit right in here .....
Yup.
I am guessing fail for Cardale is real.
Several of you guys beat me to it. And no Mik- I'm not happy about the Browns signing him. Look up his career stats- the guy SUCKS. Whoop-te-do, we brought in an updated version of Jake Delhomme. Pardon me while I barf.
Hoyer wants to start. Neither last year nor this year would Hoyer help develop ANY rookie to pass him on the depth chart. On the other hand, McCown will be willing to start, backup, but more important, willingly mentor a young QB without bitterness or jealousy. IMO, he has significant value.
We'll see.
Mike
Hoyer may want to start, but what team is going to offer him a starting job? It's Texans or bust.
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From wiki.
Lucas Patrick McCown (born July 12, 1981) is an American football quarterback and special teamer for the New Orleans Saints of the National Football League. He played college football for the Louisiana Tech University Bulldogs, and was drafted by the Cleveland Browns in the fourth round of the 2004 NFL Draft. He also played for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in 2007, 2008, Jacksonville Jaguars from 2009 to 2011 and Atlanta Falcons in 2012. He is the younger brother of Josh McCown and former Texas A&M quarterback Randy McCown.
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So our new backup QB has history with us. Drafted his younger brother, and his other brother played QB at Texas A&M like Manziel. It's a small world, after all.
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thenew23: "This is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard..."
That's because you haven't 'heard' very much...
and you're dumb as the dumbest
case in point, your sn: "thenew23"
the thinking you are hearing & following.... stack on QBs till something works is seriously flawed. Hundley or Petty only compounds the problem, only sets us back further. (compounds --in this case-- means makes it worse)
there's an excellent chance to solve the problem* in 2016 (*that plagues dumb franchises for a decade long because they do things like you are speaking of doing, and would do. Do you understand the definition of insanity?
and your dumb as the dumbest
Clever...I guess we're on the same page then...
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per wiki.
Joshua Treadwell McCown (born July 4, 1979) is an American football quarterback for the Cleveland Browns of the National Football League (NFL). He was drafted by the Arizona Cardinals in the third round of the 2002 NFL Draft. He played college football at SMU and Sam Houston State.
McCown has played for the Arizona Cardinals, Detroit Lions, Oakland Raiders, Miami Dolphins, Carolina Panthers, Hartford Colonials, San Francisco 49ers, Chicago Bears, and Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He is the older brother of fellow NFL quarterback Luke McCown and younger brother of former Texas A&M quarterback Randy McCown.
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So the org knew Hoyer didn't want to be here after the Manziel pressure last year unless he got paid booku bucks and even then I think he'd still feel that pressure in his mind.
They bring in someone a little younger with about the same stats and more playing experience who flat out said he doesn't give a shit about what's going on with Manziel AND will even mentor him.........
And this is bad how? (Don't have to draft a QB and wAs rated best FA QB).
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thenew23: "This is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard..."
That's because you haven't 'heard' very much...
and you're dumb as the dumbest
case in point, your sn: "thenew23"
the thinking you are hearing & following.... stack on QBs till something works is seriously flawed. Hundley or Petty only compounds the problem, only sets us back further. (compounds --in this case-- means makes it worse)
there's an excellent chance to solve the problem* in 2016 (*that plagues dumb franchises for a decade long because they do things like you are speaking of doing, and would do. Do you understand the definition of insanity?
thenew23: "This is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard..."
That's because you haven't 'heard' very much...
and your dumb as the dumbest
case in point, your sn: "thenew23"
the thinking your are hearing & following.... stack on QBs till something works is seriously flawed. Hundley or Petty only compounds the problem, only sets us back further. (compounds --in this case-- means makes it worse)
there's an excellent chance to solve the problem* in 2016 (*that plagues dumb franchises for a decade long because they do things like you are speaking of doing, and would do. Do you understand the definition of insanity?
God please after 29 post, Go watch Miguel Cerbera Cabrera play Baseball the rest of the year and STFU
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I heard differnt.....that Mcown needed to be guaranteed the starting qb job to agree to come here. Who knows? We are doomed....again.
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I don't think anyone really knows except the Browns the deal of this contract. He may not even make the final roster come August.
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it's scary from experience as soon as you say someone's name they turn the corner and walk in the front door.
please no.
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Well now that I have had a day to digest all this, I will just stay on the bright side. Pettine wants to build the defense first so that is how the draft and any FA will be going early anyway (I can see us taking a couple of WRs late in a decently deep WR draft this year). He wanted to solve the QB problem and they have a first round QB who has now taken a major step (don't discount it) in the right direction by going to rehab. There is something they saw in Johnny Football that they liked well enough to move up to get him. Instead they ended up with Johnny Party and a starting journeyman QB who would not lift a finger to help him out for the team. His sideline pouting every time JF was in the game was pretty obvious. These coaches are smart enough to know having that situation with Hoyer was not working in terms of at least trying to bring along a rookie who has almost all shotgun experience in a different kind of offense. So they bring in both a young OC and a QB coach with some background working with JM who won't read option or pistol him to death in a brutal scheme that usually ends up in a hurt QB. Then they bring in an older QB who wants what is best for the team and does not mind being a mentor and coach on the field for the young guy.
Cliff notes bottom line-the beauty of it is that they give JF every opportunity to show if he can translate well to the pro game. And if that does not appear to be happening by the end of the season, they will be in great position for a great pick next year without having to sell out rebuilding the O, which is slated more for 2016. I like the long range plan and I like the short range to at least give our 1st rounder a full season to prove that Johnny Party is gone and Johnny Football can play the game like we expected him to do when he was drafted. And no more pouting, unhelpful player sitting on the sidelines not supporting his teammates.
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Well now that I have had a day to digest all this, I will just stay on the bright side. Pettine wants to build the defense first so that is how the draft and any FA will be going early anyway (I can see us taking a couple of WRs late in a decently deep WR draft this year). He wanted to solve the QB problem and they have a first round QB who has now taken a major step (don't discount it) in the right direction by going to rehab. There is something they saw in Johnny Football that they liked well enough to move up to get him. Instead they ended up with Johnny Party and a starting journeyman QB who would not lift a finger to help him out for the team. His sideline pouting every time JF was in the game was pretty obvious. These coaches are smart enough to know having that situation with Hoyer was not working in terms of at least trying to bring along a rookie who has almost all shotgun experience in a different kind of offense. So they bring in both a young OC and a QB coach with some background working with JM who won't read option or pistol him to death in a brutal scheme that usually ends up in a hurt QB. Then they bring in an older QB who wants what is best for the team and does not mind being a mentor and coach on the field for the young guy.
Cliff notes bottom line-the beauty of it is that they give JF every opportunity to show if he can translate well to the pro game. And if that does not appear to be happening by the end of the season, they will be in great position for a great pick next year without having to sell out rebuilding the O, which is slated more for 2016. I like the long range plan and I like the short range to at least give our 1st rounder a full season to prove that Johnny Party is gone and Johnny Football can play the game like we expected him to do when he was drafted. And no more pouting, unhelpful player sitting on the sidelines not supporting his teammates.
Well now that I have had a day to digest all this, I will just stay on the bright side. Pettine wants to build the defense first so that is how the draft and any FA will be going early anyway (I can see us taking a couple of WRs late in a decently deep WR draft this year). He wanted to solve the QB problem and they have a first round QB who has now taken a major step (don't discount it) in the right direction by going to rehab. There is something they saw in Johnny Football that they liked well enough to move up to get him. Instead they ended up with Johnny Party and a starting journeyman QB who would not lift a finger to help him out for the team. His sideline pouting every time JF was in the game was pretty obvious. These coaches are smart enough to know having that situation with Hoyer was not working in terms of at least trying to bring along a rookie who has almost all shotgun experience in a different kind of offense. So they bring in both a young OC and a QB coach with some background working with JM who won't read option or pistol him to death in a brutal scheme that usually ends up in a hurt QB. Then they bring in an older QB who wants what is best for the team and does not mind being a mentor and coach on the field for the young guy.
Cliff notes bottom line-the beauty of it is that they give JF every opportunity to show if he can translate well to the pro game. And if that does not appear to be happening by the end of the season, they will be in great position for a great pick next year without having to sell out rebuilding the O, which is slated more for 2016. I like the long range plan and I like the short range to at least give our 1st rounder a full season to prove that Johnny Party is gone and Johnny Football can play the game like we expected him to do when he was drafted. And no more pouting, unhelpful player sitting on the sidelines not supporting his teammates.
Well stated.
Mike
IN DORSEY I TRUST -
+1.
Exactly.
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