Browns sign Josh McCown to 3 year contract
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So the org knew Hoyer didn't want to be here after the Manziel pressure last year unless he got paid booku bucks and even then I think he'd still feel that pressure in his mind.
They bring in someone a little younger with about the same stats and more playing experience who flat out said he doesn't give a shit about what's going on with Manziel AND will even mentor him.........
And this is bad how? (Don't have to draft a QB and wAs rated best FA QB).
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thenew23: "This is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard..."
That's because you haven't 'heard' very much...
and you're dumb as the dumbest
case in point, your sn: "thenew23"
the thinking you are hearing & following.... stack on QBs till something works is seriously flawed. Hundley or Petty only compounds the problem, only sets us back further. (compounds --in this case-- means makes it worse)
there's an excellent chance to solve the problem* in 2016 (*that plagues dumb franchises for a decade long because they do things like you are speaking of doing, and would do. Do you understand the definition of insanity?
thenew23: "This is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard..."
That's because you haven't 'heard' very much...
and your dumb as the dumbest
case in point, your sn: "thenew23"
the thinking your are hearing & following.... stack on QBs till something works is seriously flawed. Hundley or Petty only compounds the problem, only sets us back further. (compounds --in this case-- means makes it worse)
there's an excellent chance to solve the problem* in 2016 (*that plagues dumb franchises for a decade long because they do things like you are speaking of doing, and would do. Do you understand the definition of insanity?
God please after 29 post, Go watch Miguel Cerbera Cabrera play Baseball the rest of the year and STFU
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I heard differnt.....that Mcown needed to be guaranteed the starting qb job to agree to come here. Who knows? We are doomed....again.
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I don't think anyone really knows except the Browns the deal of this contract. He may not even make the final roster come August.
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it's scary from experience as soon as you say someone's name they turn the corner and walk in the front door.
please no.
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Well now that I have had a day to digest all this, I will just stay on the bright side. Pettine wants to build the defense first so that is how the draft and any FA will be going early anyway (I can see us taking a couple of WRs late in a decently deep WR draft this year). He wanted to solve the QB problem and they have a first round QB who has now taken a major step (don't discount it) in the right direction by going to rehab. There is something they saw in Johnny Football that they liked well enough to move up to get him. Instead they ended up with Johnny Party and a starting journeyman QB who would not lift a finger to help him out for the team. His sideline pouting every time JF was in the game was pretty obvious. These coaches are smart enough to know having that situation with Hoyer was not working in terms of at least trying to bring along a rookie who has almost all shotgun experience in a different kind of offense. So they bring in both a young OC and a QB coach with some background working with JM who won't read option or pistol him to death in a brutal scheme that usually ends up in a hurt QB. Then they bring in an older QB who wants what is best for the team and does not mind being a mentor and coach on the field for the young guy.
Cliff notes bottom line-the beauty of it is that they give JF every opportunity to show if he can translate well to the pro game. And if that does not appear to be happening by the end of the season, they will be in great position for a great pick next year without having to sell out rebuilding the O, which is slated more for 2016. I like the long range plan and I like the short range to at least give our 1st rounder a full season to prove that Johnny Party is gone and Johnny Football can play the game like we expected him to do when he was drafted. And no more pouting, unhelpful player sitting on the sidelines not supporting his teammates.
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Well now that I have had a day to digest all this, I will just stay on the bright side. Pettine wants to build the defense first so that is how the draft and any FA will be going early anyway (I can see us taking a couple of WRs late in a decently deep WR draft this year). He wanted to solve the QB problem and they have a first round QB who has now taken a major step (don't discount it) in the right direction by going to rehab. There is something they saw in Johnny Football that they liked well enough to move up to get him. Instead they ended up with Johnny Party and a starting journeyman QB who would not lift a finger to help him out for the team. His sideline pouting every time JF was in the game was pretty obvious. These coaches are smart enough to know having that situation with Hoyer was not working in terms of at least trying to bring along a rookie who has almost all shotgun experience in a different kind of offense. So they bring in both a young OC and a QB coach with some background working with JM who won't read option or pistol him to death in a brutal scheme that usually ends up in a hurt QB. Then they bring in an older QB who wants what is best for the team and does not mind being a mentor and coach on the field for the young guy.
Cliff notes bottom line-the beauty of it is that they give JF every opportunity to show if he can translate well to the pro game. And if that does not appear to be happening by the end of the season, they will be in great position for a great pick next year without having to sell out rebuilding the O, which is slated more for 2016. I like the long range plan and I like the short range to at least give our 1st rounder a full season to prove that Johnny Party is gone and Johnny Football can play the game like we expected him to do when he was drafted. And no more pouting, unhelpful player sitting on the sidelines not supporting his teammates.
Well now that I have had a day to digest all this, I will just stay on the bright side. Pettine wants to build the defense first so that is how the draft and any FA will be going early anyway (I can see us taking a couple of WRs late in a decently deep WR draft this year). He wanted to solve the QB problem and they have a first round QB who has now taken a major step (don't discount it) in the right direction by going to rehab. There is something they saw in Johnny Football that they liked well enough to move up to get him. Instead they ended up with Johnny Party and a starting journeyman QB who would not lift a finger to help him out for the team. His sideline pouting every time JF was in the game was pretty obvious. These coaches are smart enough to know having that situation with Hoyer was not working in terms of at least trying to bring along a rookie who has almost all shotgun experience in a different kind of offense. So they bring in both a young OC and a QB coach with some background working with JM who won't read option or pistol him to death in a brutal scheme that usually ends up in a hurt QB. Then they bring in an older QB who wants what is best for the team and does not mind being a mentor and coach on the field for the young guy.
Cliff notes bottom line-the beauty of it is that they give JF every opportunity to show if he can translate well to the pro game. And if that does not appear to be happening by the end of the season, they will be in great position for a great pick next year without having to sell out rebuilding the O, which is slated more for 2016. I like the long range plan and I like the short range to at least give our 1st rounder a full season to prove that Johnny Party is gone and Johnny Football can play the game like we expected him to do when he was drafted. And no more pouting, unhelpful player sitting on the sidelines not supporting his teammates.
Well stated.
Mike
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+1.
Exactly.
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Well now that I have had a day to digest all this, I will just stay on the bright side. Pettine wants to build the defense first so that is how the draft and any FA will be going early anyway (I can see us taking a couple of WRs late in a decently deep WR draft this year). He wanted to solve the QB problem and they have a first round QB who has now taken a major step (don't discount it) in the right direction by going to rehab. There is something they saw in Johnny Football that they liked well enough to move up to get him. Instead they ended up with Johnny Party and a starting journeyman QB who would not lift a finger to help him out for the team. His sideline pouting every time JF was in the game was pretty obvious. These coaches are smart enough to know having that situation with Hoyer was not working in terms of at least trying to bring along a rookie who has almost all shotgun experience in a different kind of offense. So they bring in both a young OC and a QB coach with some background working with JM who won't read option or pistol him to death in a brutal scheme that usually ends up in a hurt QB. Then they bring in an older QB who wants what is best for the team and does not mind being a mentor and coach on the field for the young guy.
Cliff notes bottom line-the beauty of it is that they give JF every opportunity to show if he can translate well to the pro game. And if that does not appear to be happening by the end of the season, they will be in great position for a great pick next year without having to sell out rebuilding the O, which is slated more for 2016. I like the long range plan and I like the short range to at least give our 1st rounder a full season to prove that Johnny Party is gone and Johnny Football can play the game like we expected him to do when he was drafted. And no more pouting, unhelpful player sitting on the sidelines not supporting his teammates.
Well stated.
Mike
Well stated.
Mike
Agree.Well stated.
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Good job Ag.....
And lets add....the Browns have NOT said McCown is the future, the answer or the starter......so y'all can stop cryin like they did....
Holy cow.....maybe Farmer can drop his pants and push out a starter....eh?
Yesterday, not only did we not have a starter....we didn't even have a BACKUP...so.....
Its VERY early...the DRAFT and FA are still out there and a LOT can happen in the coming months....possibilities???....
1) Signing/trading for a starter can still happen and McCown becomes the experienced backup and Shaw/JFF fight for the last spot
2) Drafting a rookie QB to compete with JFF and learn from McCown
3) JFF comes back determined to prove us all wrong and steps up to plate himself.....
....there are 3 very real possibilities.....none of which has McCown as the starter......
So, we can wait and see what they do......or we can overreact and start crying before things even get started(oops...too late)....
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MKC called into The Bull & Fox show, and shed a little light on the McCown signing.
She said that McCown was willing to accept a mentoring/backup role whereas Hoyer was not.
So we signed a competitor who would rather be a backup/mentor (us), then he would a starter (Bills)? That's encouraging.
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There is allot of time still for our roster to fill up
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I for one don't have to shit on Hoyer's memory to feel better about signing Josh.
I call it like it is. He was pouting on the sidelines and not lifting a finger. He is the one that left that memory, not I. Had he not done it I would never have said a thing.
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thenew23: "This is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard..."
That's because you haven't 'heard' very much...
and you're dumb as the dumbest
case in point, your sn: "thenew23"
the thinking you are hearing & following.... stack on QBs till something works is seriously flawed. Hundley or Petty only compounds the problem, only sets us back further. (compounds --in this case-- means makes it worse)
there's an excellent chance to solve the problem* in 2016 (*that plagues dumb franchises for a decade long because they do things like you are speaking of doing, and would do. Do you understand the definition of insanity?
and your dumb as the dumbest
If YOU'RE going to insult a person's intelligence at least use proper grammar.
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I call it like it is. He was pouting on the sidelines and not lifting a finger. He is the one that left that memory, not I. Had he not done it I would never have said a thing.
How was Hoyer supposed to look when JM was on the field?
Did you ever see a sideline shot when our D was on the field that Hoyer was not on the opposite of the Shanny from Johnny?
JM"s game could not have been lifted with a fucking crane let alone a finger.
You call it like you are inclined to see it.
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I call it like it is. He was pouting on the sidelines and not lifting a finger. He is the one that left that memory, not I. Had he not done it I would never have said a thing.
How was Hoyer supposed to look when JM was on the field?
Did you ever see a sideline shot when our D was on the field that Hoyer was not on the opposite of the Shanny from Johnny?
JM"s game could not have been lifted with a fucking crane let alone a finger.
You call it like you are inclined to see it.
How was Hoyer supposed to look when JM was on the field?
Did you ever see a sideline shot when our D was on the field that Hoyer was not on the opposite of the Shanny from Johnny?
You call it like you are inclined to see it.
Great point.
When johnny "started" I remember seeing them yuck it up on the sideline.
Can't blame hoyer or the browns. I understand both sides. We want a qb of the future and apparently they don't think hoyer is it. Hoyer wants to start. At an impass.
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Love the McCown signing. Pro's pro.
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I don't think Hoyer was ever the same after getting hurt. Smart qb, wanted to get
bigger bucks, I wish him the best. Gee, maybe he'll still sign with the Browns - he
should be able to beat our McCown, right?
Whatever. McCown is far more a mentor for JF when he gets himself
all straightened out in his life....
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