Brian Hartline to visit Browns on Tues
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I still want Randall Cobb, but hey, I'd love this guy to be with the Browns.
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You could sign Ginn and Hartline, and draft a star wr...
you'd upgrade the wr group hugely.
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Yes, I would like to see Hartline here. He reminds me of a Brian Brennan type; hard working, catches most everything thrown his way. I also worked with his cousin in Akron!
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Yes, I would like to see Hartline here. He reminds me of a Brian Brennan type; hard working, catches most everything thrown his way. I also worked with his cousin in Akron!
Yes, I would like to see Hartline here. He reminds me of a Brian Brennan type; hard working, catches most everything thrown his way. I also worked with his cousin in Akron!
No where near the same player aside from skin color.
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Why the sudden dropoff? Tannehill arrived in 2012 and he had two 1000+ yr seasons before this year.
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No where near the same player aside from skin color. Tiam***********************
Nowhere near? Hartline is a lot bigger. But Brian Brennan averaged
13 yards a reception, and Hartliine averaged 12.2 yards a reception, careerwise.
That's very similar. And both were smart, tough players who loved the game, knew
how to get open regardless of not having bigtime speed, and both could catch
the ball excellently. I'd sign Hartline in a NY second, unless you get into a bidding
war with Buffalo, who is also interested.
Brian BrennanHeight: 5-9 Weight: 178 Age: 53Born: 2/15/1962 Bloomfield , MICollege: Boston CollegeExperience: 9 SeasonsREC334YDS4,336AVG13.0TDS20Brian Hartline#82 WRMiami Dolphins | Official Team SiteHeight: 6-2 Weight: 200 Age: 28Born: 11/22/1986 Canton , OHCollege: Ohio StateExperience: 7th seasonHigh School: Glen Oak HS [North Canton, OH]REC39YDS474AVG12.2TDS2 -
Why the sudden dropoff? Tannehill arrived in 2012 and he had two 1000+ yr seasons before this year.
Why the sudden dropoff? Tannehill arrived in 2012 and he had two 1000+ yr seasons before this year.
When I watched Miami, I saw a team struggle to pass protect and then focus too heavily on getting Wallace the ball. Landry being the safety net in the slot.
No where near the same player aside from skin color. Tiam***********************Nowhere near? Hartline is a lot bigger. But Brian Brennan averaged
13 yards a reception, and Hartliine averaged 12.2 yards a reception, careerwise.
That's very similar. And both were smart, tough players who loved the game, knew
how to get open regardless of not having bigtime speed, and both could catch
the ball excellently. I'd sign Hartline in a NY second, unless you get into a bidding
war with Buffalo, who is also interested.
Their measurables and style of game are different, of course the results speak for themselves as both had/have strong hands and great feel for what defenses are attempting to do to them.
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In case nobody has watched him play.
edit: If the number I'm reading are accurate, he was targeted on 62 times on the year. Might help explain some of the drop off.
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Hartline and Brennan LOVED the game. They were ***FOOTBALL PLAYERS*** from
the beginning of their school careers. Watching Hartline's video sure reminds me of
Brennan.
Both played qb at one time. For anybody interested,
here is a highlight video of Brian Brennan. 5'9" ? Yep.
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He seems like he'd be a good fit for the browns.
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Watching that video it is more interesting to watch Tannehill. he looks at other recievers but he always looks where Hartline is suppose to be and is always there. Hartlines catchs are forward and getting down not taking that big hit. He isnt a burner he is a accurate route safety blanket receiver that we havent had in a long time. Hartline is always at the sticks and knows where he needs to get to for the first watch his head he catches the ball and looks for the sticks and get as close to them as he can. we dont need burners at reciever we needs guys that catch and get 1str downs.
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In case nobody has watched him play.
edit: If the number I'm reading are accurate, he was targeted on 62 times on the year. Might help explain some of the drop off.
edit: If the number I'm reading are accurate, he was targeted on 62 times on the year. Might help explain some of the drop off.
pfr has it at 63 for '14... in the ballpark of his first three-years, but roughly half of what he saw in his career years of '12 and '13.
Looks like Jarvis Landry's arrival stole Brian's opportunities, pushed Brain back to the #3WR role. With Landry's 84 catches in 112 targets it's easy to see why. Hard to match that kind of success rate.
Brian dropped 6.4% of his 2014 targets. Essentially the same as our worst WR by that measure, Benji (6.5%).
Other years...
2013 6.8%
2012 3.1%
2011 4.6%
2010 4.1%
2009 5.4%
Hey... at least in '09 Ginn's 11.5% drop rate made Brian look fantastic.
I just don't see the upgrade here...
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edit: If the number I'm reading are accurate, he was targeted on 62 times on the year. Might help explain some of the drop off.
pfr has it at 63 for '14... in the ballpark of his first three-years, but roughly half of what he saw in his career years of '12 and '13.
Looks like Jarvis Landry's arrival stole Brian's opportunities, pushed Brain back to the #3WR role. With Landry's 84 catches in 112 targets it's easy to see why. Hard to match that kind of success rate.
Brian dropped 6.4% of his 2014 targets. Essentially the same as our worst WR by that measure, Benji (6.5%).
Other years...
2013 6.8%
2012 3.1%
2011 4.6%
2010 4.1%
2009 5.4%
Hey... at least in '09 Ginn's 11.5% drop rate made Brian look fantastic.
I just don't see the upgrade here...
pfr has it at 63 for '14... in the ballpark of his first three-years, but roughly half of what he saw in his career years of '12 and '13.
Looks like Jarvis Landry's arrival stole Brian's opportunities, pushed Brain back to the #3WR role. With Landry's 84 catches in 112 targets it's easy to see why. Hard to match that kind of success rate.
Brian dropped 6.4% of his 2014 targets. Essentially the same as our worst WR by that measure, Benji (6.5%).
Other years...
2013 6.8%
2012 3.1%
2011 4.6%
2010 4.1%
2009 5.4%
Hey... at least in '09 Ginn's 11.5% drop rate made Brian look fantastic.
I just don't see the upgrade here...
I find it a little difficult to compare outright drop percentages without mixing in targets and total catches. In which case, Benji's drop rate for how little he's involved as a receiver is scary.
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Now this is a signing I could get behind. He seems very reliable, especially as a 3rd WR. I'd love to see him and Shorts come in, along with a draft pick.
Hawkins
Shorts
Hartline
Rookie
Gabriel
Benjamin
Battle it out for 5 spots on the roster... That seems like a reliable bunch. Not sure who stretches the field, unless we take that rookie with our #12 pick (Cooper, White)
Still need a TE though...
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Now this is a signing I could get behind. He seems very reliable, especially as a 3rd WR. I'd love to see him and Shorts come in, along with a draft pick.
Hawkins
Shorts
Hartline
Rookie
Gabriel
Benjamin
Battle it out for 5 spots on the roster... That seems like a reliable bunch. Not sure who stretches the field, unless we take that rookie with our #12 pick (Cooper, White)
Still need a TE though...
Now this is a signing I could get behind. He seems very reliable, especially as a 3rd WR. I'd love to see him and Shorts come in, along with a draft pick.
Hawkins
Shorts
Hartline
Rookie
Gabriel
Benjamin
Battle it out for 5 spots on the roster... That seems like a reliable bunch. Not sure who stretches the field, unless we take that rookie with our #12 pick (Cooper, White)
Still need a TE though...
Dr Dray and Barnidge filled in rather admirably but there are several athletic, vertical threat TE's to be had in the later rounds of the draft.
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This makes sense
Ginn does not
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