Brian Hartline to visit Browns on Tues

[Zombo]

Solid vet, would be a good move.

Z

[tiamat63]

@brownskidd said:

Yes, I would like to see Hartline here. He reminds me of a Brian Brennan type; hard working, catches most everything thrown his way. I also worked with his cousin in Akron!

No where near the same player aside from skin color.

[TexasAg1969]

Why the sudden dropoff? Tannehill arrived in 2012 and he had two 1000+ yr seasons before this year.

[calfoxwc]

No where near the same player aside from skin color. Tiam

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Nowhere near? Hartline is a lot bigger. But Brian Brennan averaged

13 yards a reception, and Hartliine averaged 12.2 yards a reception, careerwise.

That's very similar. And both were smart, tough players who loved the game, knew

how to get open regardless of not having bigtime speed, and both could catch

the ball excellently. I'd sign Hartline in a NY second, unless you get into a bidding

war with Buffalo, who is also interested.

Brian Brennan

Height: 5-9 Weight: 178 Age: 53

Born: 2/15/1962 Bloomfield , MI

College: Boston College

Experience: 9 Seasons

REC

334

YDS

4,336

AVG

13.0

TDS

20

Brian Hartline

#82 WR

Miami Dolphins | Official Team Site

Height: 6-2 Weight: 200 Age: 28

Born: 11/22/1986 Canton , OH

College: Ohio State

Experience: 7th season

High School: Glen Oak HS [North Canton, OH]

REC

39

YDS

474

AVG

12.2

TDS

2

[tiamat63]

@texasag1969 said:

Why the sudden dropoff? Tannehill arrived in 2012 and he had two 1000+ yr seasons before this year.

When I watched Miami, I saw a team struggle to pass protect and then focus too heavily on getting Wallace the ball. Landry being the safety net in the slot.

@calfoxwc said:

No where near the same player aside from skin color. Tiam

***********************

Nowhere near? Hartline is a lot bigger. But Brian Brennan averaged

13 yards a reception, and Hartliine averaged 12.2 yards a reception, careerwise.

That's very similar. And both were smart, tough players who loved the game, knew

how to get open regardless of not having bigtime speed, and both could catch

the ball excellently. I'd sign Hartline in a NY second, unless you get into a bidding

war with Buffalo, who is also interested.

Their measurables and style of game are different, of course the results speak for themselves as both had/have strong hands and great feel for what defenses are attempting to do to them.

[Mark O]

From what I saw of Miami this year and of Hartline in general, the dude catches everything thrown to him. Sign him up... he's only 28

[tiamat63]

In case nobody has watched him play.

edit: If the number I'm reading are accurate, he was targeted on 62 times on the year. Might help explain some of the drop off.

[calfoxwc]

Hartline and Brennan LOVED the game. They were ***FOOTBALL PLAYERS*** from

the beginning of their school careers. Watching Hartline's video sure reminds me of

Brennan.

Both played qb at one time. For anybody interested,

here is a highlight video of Brian Brennan. 5'9" ? Yep.

[The Cysko Kid]

He seems like he'd be a good fit for the browns.

[brownsfandenver]

Watching that video it is more interesting to watch Tannehill. he looks at other recievers but he always looks where Hartline is suppose to be and is always there. Hartlines catchs are forward and getting down not taking that big hit. He isnt a burner he is a accurate route safety blanket receiver that we havent had in a long time. Hartline is always at the sticks and knows where he needs to get to for the first watch his head he catches the ball and looks for the sticks and get as close to them as he can. we dont need burners at reciever we needs guys that catch and get 1str downs.

[Alkid3]

Yeah I'll take Hartline with a hometown discount.

[Tour2ma]

@tiamat63 said:

edit: If the number I'm reading are accurate, he was targeted on 62 times on the year. Might help explain some of the drop off.

pfr has it at 63 for '14... in the ballpark of his first three-years, but roughly half of what he saw in his career years of '12 and '13.

Looks like Jarvis Landry's arrival stole Brian's opportunities, pushed Brain back to the #3WR role. With Landry's 84 catches in 112 targets it's easy to see why. Hard to match that kind of success rate.

Brian dropped 6.4% of his 2014 targets. Essentially the same as our worst WR by that measure, Benji (6.5%).

Other years...

2013 6.8%

2012 3.1%

2011 4.6%

2010 4.1%

2009 5.4%

Hey... at least in '09 Ginn's 11.5% drop rate made Brian look fantastic.

I just don't see the upgrade here...

[tiamat63]

@tour2ma said:

pfr has it at 63 for '14... in the ballpark of his first three-years, but roughly half of what he saw in his career years of '12 and '13.

Looks like Jarvis Landry's arrival stole Brian's opportunities, pushed Brain back to the #3WR role. With Landry's 84 catches in 112 targets it's easy to see why. Hard to match that kind of success rate.

Brian dropped 6.4% of his 2014 targets. Essentially the same as our worst WR by that measure, Benji (6.5%).

Other years...

2013 6.8%

2012 3.1%

2011 4.6%

2010 4.1%

2009 5.4%

Hey... at least in '09 Ginn's 11.5% drop rate made Brian look fantastic.

I just don't see the upgrade here...

I find it a little difficult to compare outright drop percentages without mixing in targets and total catches. In which case, Benji's drop rate for how little he's involved as a receiver is scary.

[thenew23]

Now this is a signing I could get behind. He seems very reliable, especially as a 3rd WR. I'd love to see him and Shorts come in, along with a draft pick.

Hawkins

Shorts

Hartline

Rookie

Gabriel

Benjamin

Battle it out for 5 spots on the roster... That seems like a reliable bunch. Not sure who stretches the field, unless we take that rookie with our #12 pick (Cooper, White)

Still need a TE though...

[tiamat63]

@thenew23 said:

Now this is a signing I could get behind. He seems very reliable, especially as a 3rd WR. I'd love to see him and Shorts come in, along with a draft pick.

Hawkins

Shorts

Hartline

Rookie

Gabriel

Benjamin

Battle it out for 5 spots on the roster... That seems like a reliable bunch. Not sure who stretches the field, unless we take that rookie with our #12 pick (Cooper, White)

Still need a TE though...

Dr Dray and Barnidge filled in rather admirably but there are several athletic, vertical threat TE's to be had in the later rounds of the draft.

[cdl15]

Might be the biggest FA signing we have this year.

[MLD Woody]

This makes sense

Ginn does not

[browns23]

Hartline also had a torn PCL in the season finale of the 2013 season. He'll be a year and a half removed from surgery which may help him get back to his 1000 yard form. I see him with potential to be a very good 2.

[Chicopee John]

Isn't "Hartline" something used to keep ticks away from dogs and, also, protect them from heart worm?

[calfoxwc]

No relation. He's a local Glennoak Kid, though. I'll bet he'd love to

come play for the Browns.