Israel poll
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Why does the notion that we don't have to spoon feed Israel for its survival have to be anti-Semitism? That's just a term, like islsmophbia, designed to make you seem racist if you question our strange dedication to Israel in the slightest.
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Why does the notion that we don't have to spoon feed Israel for its survival have to be anti-Semitism? That's just a term, like islsmophbia, designed to make you seem racist if you question our strange dedication to Israel in the slightest.
It doesn't necessarily have to. But both things exist. I suppose someone might bring up racism should we have ku Klux Klan members elected to the US Senate.Why does the notion that we don't have to spoon feed Israel for its survival have to be anti-Semitism? That's just a term, like islsmophbia, designed to make you seem racist if you question our strange dedication to Israel in the slightest.
I'm just saying that I don't understand anti-semitism. It's easier do understand racism.
WSS
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I don't give a fuck what the Nazis did. That doesn't make me sympathize with Israel any more than slavery or isis' actions make me sympathize with their respective populations
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We get that, how many times you going to repeat it?
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A, though they are not our #1 ally would put them in the top 10
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A, though they are not our #1 ally would put them in the top 10
A, though they are not our #1 ally would put them in the top 10
In the Middle East or world wide?
WSS
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I care a LOT about what atrocities the nazis committed, in pushing
the world into the world war.
So many lives of soldiers lost, so many loved ones heartbroken, lives
dashed into tragedy.
By the hundreds of thousands, from the beginning, ended with civilian and military
deaths in the many millions.
History shows that letting problems fester, and grow into world crises.....
ends up with a gigantic, devastating problem to solve, instead of what would have
been a far more "minor" problem, relatively speaking.
I don't understand the tendency of segments of societies using Jewish people and Israel
and a scapegoat for their unhappiness and anger. It's garbage, but it's been happening
with Arabic and Muslim groups since the beginning of recorded history. Maybe that's where it
all starts - if you're going to scapegoat a culture and religion and a country, you can pick
Israel because you won't be alone - the ME Jew haters already got it started from the gitgo.
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Right, sure, the jews as a group of people have suffered disproportionately, as previously agreed. But the question is why there is such a strength of feeling in america regarding israel - is it just because they're jewish?
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I care a LOT about what atrocities the nazis committed, in pushing
the world into the world war.
So many lives of soldiers lost, so many loved ones heartbroken, lives
dashed into tragedy.
By the hundreds of thousands, from the beginning, ended with civilian and military
deaths in the many millions.
History shows that letting problems fester, and grow into world crises.....
ends up with a gigantic, devastating problem to solve, instead of what would have
been a far more "minor" problem, relatively speaking.
I don't understand the tendency of segments of societies using Jewish people and Israel
and a scapegoat for their unhappiness and anger. It's garbage, but it's been happening
with Arabic and Muslim groups since the beginning of recorded history. Maybe that's where it
all starts - if you're going to scapegoat a culture and religion and a country, you can pick
Israel because you won't be alone - the ME Jew haters already got it started from the gitgo.
Atrocities are a part of humanity. You can go back thousands of years and find similar or worse. The mongols sacked Baghdad in 1258 killing 1,000,000 people in a single week. You have to live in the now. I appreciate that Israel is a valuable ally in the volatile middle east but we should give them the same consideration as our other allies and I feel like we treat them like a special needs child.I care a LOT about what atrocities the nazis committed, in pushing
the world into the world war.
So many lives of soldiers lost, so many loved ones heartbroken, lives
dashed into tragedy.
By the hundreds of thousands, from the beginning, ended with civilian and military
deaths in the many millions.
History shows that letting problems fester, and grow into world crises.....
ends up with a gigantic, devastating problem to solve, instead of what would have
been a far more "minor" problem, relatively speaking.
I don't understand the tendency of segments of societies using Jewish people and Israel
and a scapegoat for their unhappiness and anger. It's garbage, but it's been happening
with Arabic and Muslim groups since the beginning of recorded history. Maybe that's where it
all starts - if you're going to scapegoat a culture and religion and a country, you can pick
Israel because you won't be alone - the ME Jew haters already got it started from the gitgo.
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A, though they are not our #1 ally would put them in the top 10
In the Middle East or world wide?
WSS
In the Middle East or world wide?
WSS
World wide, in the Middle East region they are easily #1
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I will say I had the opportunity to meet a number of Israeli soldiers in my time in the USAF and they unilaterally impressed me as some of the most squared away soldiers I've ever met.
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It seems some think we should be on the hook to pay Israel's bills because of the Holocaust. If one of your neighbor's breaks another neighbor's window, do you feel the need to atone forever even though you weren't at fault? Germany should be the one feeling the need to comp everything Israel does.
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I think the threats, violence against, and fragile security makes them
a differenct case, than our other allies.
Iran isn't saying they want to blow England, France, or Germany, Norway
off the map...
it's Israel. The so-called Palestinians could have had their own state, too, back
in the day...but they refused because they didn't want to live next to the new planned
Jewish state, the Jews they hated anyways.
So, they cut off their nose to spite their face, as the old saying goes, and Israel lives everyday
with terrorism, and threats, and more threatened hideous violence, even against children.
I'd say that gives Israel a far more serious, loyal standing with western countries, and makes
Israel's stituation stand out as a very serious, special case requiring far more support in protection.
Not just any ally, ya know?
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Yes Chris, partially because they are Jewish. We have a large, successful and influential Jewish community here in the United States. Americans always seem to root for the underdog as well with Israel being at odds with nearly every other country around the region.
WSS
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Palestinians sort of have a legitimate beef with Israel in my opinion but that's not my business. We have a lot of problems we could be working on in America before bending over backwards to prop up israel. Sell them weapons to defend themselves? Sure. Help them if they get into a tight spot? Of course. But act as their heavy? Nah. If they want to be a legitimate state they have to defend themselves. They chose the middle east for their nation.
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The analogy, Logic, is nonsense. There is no historical tragedy of gigantic proportions
associated with a neighbor's window breaking.
Your neighbor can fix their window. The Jews can't fix the Holocaust. It's so horrible, and devastating in
world history. And it must never happen again. We see the same nazi style widespread crimes against
humanity with the daesch sp? now. The world can't slip into world war again. The first time Iran has a nuke
and sends it to Israel, Israel will respond back. Then the whole rest of the world can be happy that it didn't have
anything to do with them when nuclear winter debris floats around the world, all over everything.
When a simple denying Iran nukes in the first place, and supporting Israel bigtime, would have sufficed
to make the world so much a safer place.
If you had to pick, which one do you pick?
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Again, we did not cause the Holocaust. Germany should be the one bending over backwards to help out Israel.
I would pick letting Israel fight their battles because they have the means to do so. They are an ally. Not some welfare state.
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Palestinians sort of have a legitimate beef with Israel in my opinion but that's not my business. We have a lot of problems we could be working on in America before bending over backwards to prop up israel. Sell them weapons to defend themselves? Sure. Help them if they get into a tight spot? Of course. But act as their heavy? Nah. If they want to be a legitimate state they have to defend themselves. They chose the middle east for their nation. Cysko
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Baloney. The Palestinians have no legit beef with Israel. Of course Israel has always defended itself. Israel defended
itself during the 7 day war. Didn't want our direct military intervention. They won. But allowing Israel to be declared war on,
and them defending themselves...what do you think happens then? And they didn't choose the ME, they have always lived there,
and their country was created for them by the UN. The Palestinians have only their own stupid, anti-Semitism subculture to blame
for their own pitiful plight.
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I hate to break it to you cal but war is inevitable and with the nature of how we have electronically shrunk the globe another world war is inevitable.
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