Browns interested in Brandon Browner
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Brandon Browner is nothing like Skrine
Is he related to the Browner family of Warren Oh.? Ross Browner, Joey Browner, Keith Browner, Keith Browner Jr.. I think Max Starks was a kid of one of them. All NFL players.
In checking, I see nothing that says he is related, but I note that he is 30 and played 3-4 years in the CFL before coming to the NFL.
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He'd be a nice change of pace considering all of our current corners are like 5' 10". Having a big, physical corner to press at the line is exactly what Pettine and co. like to see.
Obviously depends on the price, though.
He'd be a nice change of pace considering all of our current corners are like 5' 10". Having a big, physical corner to press at the line is exactly what Pettine and co. like to see.
Obviously depends on the price, though.
What? Gilbert is 6'1, Desir is 6'1, Haden is 5'11 and Kwaun is 5'9. So we average around 6' at our CB spot.
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You guys don't seem to realize how good of a CB Skrine was. Skrine should have been a Brown. He's probably the fastest player on... or the fastest player that WAS on the team. Buster played the game the way it was supposed to be played. He rarely held a WR in coverage... he was however called for a lot of penalties that shouldn't have been penalties. He was really good. He worked his ass off to get better every season and we reward him by letting him go. Horrible example of how to treat your own. But, sometimes you don't know what you had until it's gone.
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I know, I have complete confidence that Gilbert could be the #2 guy beside Haden. It really just sucks though, I've always said that it's not the size of the dog, but the fight in the dog that counts, there would not be a better comparison to that analogy than Buster Skrine. He was probably one of my favorite players. All heart and speed to spare, I'm sad to see him go...
I like K. Williams and Desir though, I think our Secondary is really strong. But we'll need to find Whitner's replacement soon, at least to start grooming. If Gipson's potential is an apparition then things start to get muddy. We need to build through the draft, this is true; but, we need to retain the players that become playmakers once it's time to pay up. We need to quit being a farming team for the rest of the NFL. It's started with Sheard, Skrine, Cameron and a few others... that needs to stop.
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Buster was fine, cept he was short, and a lot of those penalties were legit
on him, and he was a liability against good receivers who were taller
and could also jump.
I expect Gilbert and Desir to really come on, and that makes Buster not worth all that money
to the Browns.
He's a feisty, fearless good player, but certainly not a "sign at any cost" player.
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You guys don't seem to realize how good of a CB Skrine was. Skrine should have been a Brown. He's probably the fastest player on... or the fastest player that WAS on the team. Buster played the game the way it was supposed to be played. He rarely held a WR in coverage... he was however called for a lot of penalties that shouldn't have been penalties. He was really good. He worked his ass off to get better every season and we reward him by letting him go. Horrible example of how to treat your own. But, sometimes you don't know what you had until it's gone.
You guys don't seem to realize how good of a CB Skrine was. Skrine should have been a Brown. He's probably the fastest player on... or the fastest player that WAS on the team. Buster played the game the way it was supposed to be played. He rarely held a WR in coverage... he was however called for a lot of penalties that shouldn't have been penalties. He was really good. He worked his ass off to get better every season and we reward him by letting him go. Horrible example of how to treat your own. But, sometimes you don't know what you had until it's gone.
Umm.... Just no.......
You don't get that many PI's called on you if you didn't do it all the time. I'm glad he got his pay day, but even more glad we got rid of him.
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Buster was fine, cept he was short, and a lot of those penalties were legit
on him, and he was a liability against good receivers who were taller
and could also jump.
I expect Gilbert and Desir to really come on, and that makes Buster not worth all that money
to the Browns.
He's a feisty, fearless good player, but certainly not a "sign at any cost" player.
Buster was fine, cept he was short, and a lot of those penalties were legit
on him, and he was a liability against good receivers who were taller
and could also jump.
I expect Gilbert and Desir to really come on, and that makes Buster not worth all that money
to the Browns.
He's a feisty, fearless good player, but certainly not a "sign at any cost" player.
Totally agree Cal!
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You guys don't seem to realize how good of a CB Skrine was. Skrine should have been a Brown. He's probably the fastest player on... or the fastest player that WAS on the team. Buster played the game the way it was supposed to be played. He rarely held a WR in coverage... he was however called for a lot of penalties that shouldn't have been penalties. He was really good. He worked his ass off to get better every season and we reward him by letting him go. Horrible example of how to treat your own. But, sometimes you don't know what you had until it's gone.
He's probably the fastest player on... or the fastest player that WAS on the team.
Benji is faster, and Gilbert is just as fast
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How is getting older an upgrade? Letting TJ Ward go was a mistake. Now Sheard and Skrine for older players? There's no continuity in this type of thinking. Sheard and Skrine should have been kept. If not then draft replacements. This is getting ridiculous. Pay the players on your team. If Sheard and Skrine were so mediocre tell that to The Patriots and the Jets.
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You guys don't seem to realize how good of a CB Skrine was. Skrine should have been a Brown. He's probably the fastest player on... or the fastest player that WAS on the team. Buster played the game the way it was supposed to be played. He rarely held a WR in coverage... he was however called for a lot of penalties that shouldn't have been penalties. He was really good. He worked his ass off to get better every season and we reward him by letting him go. Horrible example of how to treat your own. But, sometimes you don't know what you had until it's gone.
You guys don't seem to realize how good of a CB Skrine was. Skrine should have been a Brown. He's probably the fastest player on... or the fastest player that WAS on the team. Buster played the game the way it was supposed to be played. He rarely held a WR in coverage... he was however called for a lot of penalties that shouldn't have been penalties. He was really good. He worked his ass off to get better every season and we reward him by letting him go. Horrible example of how to treat your own. But, sometimes you don't know what you had until it's gone.
I couldn't agree more! Not to mention he signed with the Jets for not real big money. What's wrong with the Browns? TJ Ward, Buster Skrine and Sheard not good enough?
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I saw a video of Skrine just after he was drafted where he ran a 4.26-4.29 on stop watches with multiple timers. Yes, at the combine he is tied for the second fastest time... However, Benjamin blew out a knee last season and I doubt he's as fast as he was. Whitner ran that time 10 years ago, I also doubt he's that fast still. Cameron, another name on that list is about to be gone. Haden ran a 4.5 40... Whatever though, it's over and done with, I don't agree with it but it is what it is. One day when I own the Browns; we will win a Championship.
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How is getting older an upgrade? Letting TJ Ward go was a mistake. Now Sheard and Skrine for older players? There's no continuity in this type of thinking. Sheard and Skrine should have been kept. If not then draft replacements. This is getting ridiculous. Pay the players on your team. If Sheard and Skrine were so mediocre tell that to The Patriots and the Jets.
How is getting older an upgrade? Letting TJ Ward go was a mistake. Now Sheard and Skrine for older players? There's no continuity in this type of thinking. Sheard and Skrine should have been kept. If not then draft replacements. This is getting ridiculous. Pay the players on your team. If Sheard and Skrine were so mediocre tell that to The Patriots and the Jets.
Exactly. Not like those guys got signed for cap busting contracts.
Ward really sucked playing for the Broncos- NOT.
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How is getting older an upgrade? Letting TJ Ward go was a mistake. Now Sheard and Skrine for older players? There's no continuity in this type of thinking. Sheard and Skrine should have been kept. If not then draft replacements. This is getting ridiculous. Pay the players on your team. If Sheard and Skrine were so mediocre tell that to The Patriots and the Jets.
Exactly. Not like those guys got signed for cap busting contracts.
Ward really sucked playing for the Broncos- NOT.
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How is getting older an upgrade? Letting TJ Ward go was a mistake. Now Sheard and Skrine for older players? There's no continuity in this type of thinking. Sheard and Skrine should have been kept. If not then draft replacements. This is getting ridiculous. Pay the players on your team. If Sheard and Skrine were so mediocre tell that to The Patriots and the Jets.
How is getting older an upgrade? Letting TJ Ward go was a mistake. Now Sheard and Skrine for older players? There's no continuity in this type of thinking. Sheard and Skrine should have been kept. If not then draft replacements. This is getting ridiculous. Pay the players on your team. If Sheard and Skrine were so mediocre tell that to The Patriots and the Jets.
Actually, I don't think they see that they are replacing Skrine with an older player, but with younger players Gilbert/Desir/Williams. Browner would just be veteran depth.....not a quid pro quo replacement.
As for Sheard.....possibly his replacement will be Mingo or a name they call on draft day....so that too would be getting younger
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You guys don't seem to realize how good of a CB Skrine was. Skrine should have been a Brown. He's probably the fastest player on... or the fastest player that WAS on the team. Buster played the game the way it was supposed to be played. He rarely held a WR in coverage... he was however called for a lot of penalties that shouldn't have been penalties. He was really good. He worked his ass off to get better every season and we reward him by letting him go. Horrible example of how to treat your own. But, sometimes you don't know what you had until it's gone.
I couldn't agree more! Not to mention he signed with the Jets for not real big money. What's wrong with the Browns? TJ Ward, Buster Skrine and Sheard not good enough?
I couldn't agree more! Not to mention he signed with the Jets for not real big money. What's wrong with the Browns? TJ Ward, Buster Skrine and Sheard not good enough?
The money is not big for a #2 CB, but if the staff believes another backup was going to surpass him, then he's an expensive #3.
You really need to get over TJ.
You can't keep them all...
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How is getting older an upgrade? Letting TJ Ward go was a mistake. Now Sheard and Skrine for older players? There's no continuity in this type of thinking. Sheard and Skrine should have been kept. If not then draft replacements. This is getting ridiculous. Pay the players on your team. If Sheard and Skrine were so mediocre tell that to The Patriots and the Jets.
Exactly. Not like those guys got signed for cap busting contracts.
Ward really sucked playing for the Broncos- NOT.
Ward really sucked playing for the Broncos- NOT.
Um....he wasn't really good either.....(can you say one dimensional?)
If my memory serves me, it was Whitner playing in the proBowl while Ward stayed home.....and it's Whitner who is rated top 10, while Ward is way down the list.....and it's Whitner who is considered a leader and mentor in the lockerroom, while Ward points fingers and creates tension....whitner brought a winners mentality to a bad team, while Ward did the opposite....
Id make that move over and over and over again.....
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How is getting older an upgrade? Letting TJ Ward go was a mistake. Now Sheard and Skrine for older players? There's no continuity in this type of thinking. Sheard and Skrine should have been kept. If not then draft replacements. This is getting ridiculous. Pay the players on your team. If Sheard and Skrine were so mediocre tell that to The Patriots and the Jets.
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