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  • @miktoxic said:

    you got me there. wow, i admit i was wrong seeing as watkins is starting as our #1 WR.

    here ya go douchebag:

    http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/forum.php?s=45046cdd0d88bc93de627734690d4f3a

    say hello to george while you're there.

    What does link have to do with anything? Why are you even responding, if you don't want to talk about Watkins, DON'T TALK ABOUT WATKINS!! It's so simple a stupid monkey can follow it. If we want to talk about Watkins, let us talk about Watkins. I see people talking about Revis, Gnata, Bradford, Mccoy, etc, why are you not bombing those threads? Your the asshole who gets a hard on for Watkins, every thread that comes up with him you go ballistic. You are the one with the problem. Let us talk football, and stfu already.

    Of the top 7 topics on the forum, only 1 is actually talking about a Browns player. Why are you not crying in those threads?

    cbbacker said:

    What does link have to do with anything? Why are you even responding, if you don't want to talk about Watkins, DON'T TALK ABOUT WATKINS!! It's so simple a stupid monkey can follow it. If we want to talk about Watkins, let us talk about Watkins. I see people talking about Revis, Gnata, Bradford, Mccoy, etc, why are you not bombing those threads? Your the asshole who gets a hard on for Watkins, every thread that comes up with him you go ballistic. You are the one with the problem. Let us talk football, and stfu already.

    Of the top 7 topics on the forum, only 1 is actually talking about a Browns player. Why are you not crying in those threads?

    You weren't here when certain forum members were having a heavy flow over the fact that the Browns didn't take Watkins. They wouldn't shut the fuck up about him. That is why no one wants to hear about goddamn Watkins anymore as it pertains to "oh god my man crush Watkins wasn't picked by Ray Farmer boo hoo" posts.

  • cbbacker said:

    So that means they are light years ahead of where we are. Thanks for pointing that out.

    Are you ever going to stop crying about Watkins? You have single handedly locked several topics with him. Some people actually want to discuss the trade, so why don't you go pester someone else and let us use these forums for what they are for?

    Also you don't really need a qb to throw the ball. Look at what Gordon did with bums 2 years ago, after missing 2 games he led the league in yards. A bum can throw the ball to someone 5-8 times a game. A good QB can also not throw pics, and make the necessary throws when we need them. He will get his catches, but until they get a qb, they will never be more than a borderline playoff team.

    discuss the watkins trade? for what? is there a purpose?

    just rehash every trade, bad pick or some other thing just to ramp the negativity.

    the bills a light year ahead of us? you're a joke.

    @miktoxic said:

    discuss the watkins trade? for what? is there a purpose?

    just rehash every trade, bad pick or some other thing just to ramp the negativity.

    the bills a light year ahead of us? you're a joke.

    Basically the first time I've chimed in on a Sammy thread in year for all those logging my content. Usually if there is topic I don't want to discuss I shut my fucking mouth and say nothing. It's weird but that actually is an option that escapes the people that admire and worship the select club of "mods'.

    Chiming in to birch about people Bitching... That's Rich.

  • @miktoxic said:

    discuss the watkins trade? for what? is there a purpose?

    just rehash every trade, bad pick or some other thing just to ramp the negativity.

    the bills a light year ahead of us? you're a joke.

    Basically the first time I've chimed in on a Sammy thread in year for all those logging my content. Usually if there is topic I don't want to discuss I shut my fucking mouth and say nothing. It's weird but that actually is an option that escapes the people that admire and worship the select club of "mods'.

    Chiming in to birch about people Bitching... That's Rich.

    @cdl15 said:

    Basically the first time I've chimed in on a Sammy thread in year for all those logging my content. Usually if there is topic I don't want to discuss I shut my fucking mouth and say nothing. It's weird but that actually is an option that escapes the people that admire and worship the select club of "mods'.

    Chiming in to birch about people Bitching... That's Rich.

    hi rich, my name's tim.

    welcome to a watkins thread on the browns board.

  • @cdl15 said:

    Basically the first time I've chimed in on a Sammy thread in year for all those logging my content. Usually if there is topic I don't want to discuss I shut my fucking mouth and say nothing. It's weird but that actually is an option that escapes the people that admire and worship the select club of "mods'.

    Chiming in to birch about people Bitching... That's Rich.

    hi rich, my name's tim.

    welcome to a watkins thread on the browns board.

    @miktoxic said:

    hi rich, my name's tim.

    welcome to a watkins thread on the browns board.

    Great now I'm Bitching about someone Bitching about other people Bitching. Thanks Dick

  • @browns52 said:

    every team is light yrs ahead of us...we don't have shit....old gas bag qb with no talent who is going to get killed...another slow posession receiver who is soooooo average. hopefully they get rid of miles austin...who made that fa move...yeah we all know.....guy that cannot stay on the field and lost at least 2 steps... wonderful fa move there...and you want to know why just about every team is light yrs ahead of us...

    Our record doesn't indicate that every team is light years ahead of us. There was legitimate improvement with this team for the first time in a long time and when this got tough, nobody quit on the coaching staff or the team. I'm not a glass half full guy, but there have been some good things around this team since Pettine took over.

    @tiamat63 said:

    Our record doesn't indicate that every team is light years ahead of us. There was legitimate improvement with this team for the first time in a long time and when this got tough, nobody quit on the coaching staff or the team. I'm not a glass half full guy, but there have been some good things around this team since Pettine took over.

    they collapsed at the end of the season losing 5 straight...you cannot say they did not quit...when you lose your last 5 games of the season that is not good...we had a qb at the beginning of the season, ended the season with no qb...we still don't have a legit qb...plus many other issues. i don't care what kind of defense we have on the field, they will collapse again due to an inept offense...we have no elite players on offense...and the defense really is not elite either...we have bits and pieces...which is what we always have yr after yr...bits and pieces..i guess we still have some time left for free agency, but i would not bet a friggin penny we get anyone that is have way decent...i hope i am wrong...

  • @browns52 said:

    every team is light yrs ahead of us...we don't have shit....old gas bag qb with no talent who is going to get killed...another slow posession receiver who is soooooo average. hopefully they get rid of miles austin...who made that fa move...yeah we all know.....guy that cannot stay on the field and lost at least 2 steps... wonderful fa move there...and you want to know why just about every team is light yrs ahead of us...

    I don't want to know why teams are light years ahead of us.....I know why......it is called a Quarterback.

    Ever hear of it?

    @the-gipper said:

    I don't want to know why teams are light years ahead of us.....I know why......it is called a Quarterback.

    Ever hear of it?

    What's a QB? I haven't heard of that position, Is that the one that holds the ball when we kick FG's?

  • @miktoxic said:

    fucking watkins cry babies.

    when will the crying stop? in 2 years? 3? 5?

    STFU already you bitches.

    even with your blow boy watkins, mccoy and back-end D help the bills will still be a one and done playoff team with either some retread as a starting QB or another manuel that they'll throw in from day one to get killed by SUH 2 games a year.

    So that means they are light years ahead of where we are. Thanks for pointing that out.

    Are you ever going to stop crying about Watkins? You have single handedly locked several topics with him. Some people actually want to discuss the trade, so why don't you go pester someone else and let us use these forums for what they are for?

    Also you don't really need a qb to throw the ball. Look at what Gordon did with bums 2 years ago, after missing 2 games he led the league in yards. A bum can throw the ball to someone 5-8 times a game. A good QB can also not throw pics, and make the necessary throws when we need them. He will get his catches, but until they get a qb, they will never be more than a borderline playoff team.

    cbbacker said:

    .

    Also you don't really need a qb to throw the ball.

    My new favorite quote.

  • I started this thread thinking it might bring some positivity.....

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Our record doesn't indicate that every team is light years ahead of us. There was legitimate improvement with this team for the first time in a long time and when this got tough, nobody quit on the coaching staff or the team. I'm not a glass half full guy, but there have been some good things around this team since Pettine took over.

    they collapsed at the end of the season losing 5 straight...you cannot say they did not quit...when you lose your last 5 games of the season that is not good...we had a qb at the beginning of the season, ended the season with no qb...we still don't have a legit qb...plus many other issues. i don't care what kind of defense we have on the field, they will collapse again due to an inept offense...we have no elite players on offense...and the defense really is not elite either...we have bits and pieces...which is what we always have yr after yr...bits and pieces..i guess we still have some time left for free agency, but i would not bet a friggin penny we get anyone that is have way decent...i hope i am wrong...

    @browns52 said:

    they collapsed at the end of the season losing 5 straight...you cannot say they did not quit...when you lose your last 5 games of the season that is not good...we had a qb at the beginning of the season, ended the season with no qb...we still don't have a legit qb...plus many other issues. i don't care what kind of defense we have on the field, they will collapse again due to an inept offense...we have no elite players on offense...and the defense really is not elite either...we have bits and pieces...which is what we always have yr after yr...bits and pieces..i guess we still have some time left for free agency, but i would not bet a friggin penny we get anyone that is have way decent...i hope i am wrong...

    So the combination of a sputtering offense and defense mainly from a rash of injuries like we've not seen in a long time means the team got worse?

    By seasons end we were using 3rd stringers and had minimal depth on both our lines. It would have been nothing short of a miracle to pull of those wins. Yet the guys kept fighting, played

    physical and produced a respectable game for what they could do. Its that simple. I my mind, when you have to reach that deep down for players and they still scratch and claw to the bitter end, that's getting better.

    As for not having elite players on offense, we have 3 fucking pro bowlers and a future HOF, all on the left side of our Oline. We have two young, very promising running backs to pair with it. Granted we don't have that bonafide WR or TE any more, but that's not to say we have nothing in those areas.

    As for defense - again, injuries withstanding and finishing that well in points allowed is a huge statement. There are multiple elite players at their positions on defense. So, health permitting on the front, they will be able to shine as well.

  • so talk about watkins.

    here's your soapbox.......

    @miktoxic said:

    so talk about watkins.

    here's your soapbox.......

    Thank you. Ahem!! (long dramatic pause) I actually have nothing to say about him at the moment, but it's nice knowing IF I want to talk about him, I can. Thank you.

  • Ok, Gilbert will be a stud now that HADEN has him down in South Beach teaching him the ropes and stroking his immature ego. So let's get a wide receiver in the first round. Is that too much to expect two years in a row? While I like Hawkins and Hartline we can't pass on a big receiver again. We need a number one.

  • if you think Browns fans are negative now, just wait until the draft is over and the team still has Gordon on the roster. The biggest problem with this team is that they always talk all this shit about change and then do the same thing that has always been done.

  • cbbacker said:

    .

    Also you don't really need a qb to throw the ball.

    My new favorite quote.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    My new favorite quote.

    Thanks, I am glad I have your support. So explain how Gordon lead the league in yards while missing 2 games? Did we have Peyton, Tom, Drew? Nope we had... wait for it, WAIT FOR IT.. DUN DU DUH!!! Brandon Weeden, and Brian Hoyer!!! They gave us a league leading receiver, how do you explain that? What was our record that year? I know we must of had a 10-6 season right?

    I didn't say we didn't need a QB to win, I just pointed out anyone can throw the ball. Make sure you understand my post before trying to insult me for it.

  • I started this thread thinking it might bring some positivity.....

    @londonbrown said:

    I started this thread thinking it might bring some positivity.....

    Haha positivity on the Browns Board. Now that's funny.

  • I don't know why, but I think Gilbert will be a damn good player this year. Hearing about him working out with Haden tells me he got the message last year, so I would bet (if we could somehow quantify CB and WR production) that Gilbert + the Browns #1 WR FAR OUTPRODUCE Watkins in 2015... just a hunch...

    @thenew23 said:

    I don't know why, but I think Gilbert will be a damn good player this year. Hearing about him working out with Haden tells me he got the message last year, so I would bet (if we could somehow quantify CB and WR production) that Gilbert + the Browns #1 WR FAR OUTPRODUCE Watkins in 2015... just a hunch...

    dude, i really hope you're right. but so far his instagram is flooded with pictures of him and his new wardrobe, and of him drinking in the club with his "boys" this offseason. Hopefully he adds some hard work in the mix too and he just forgot to post that on instagram....

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Our record doesn't indicate that every team is light years ahead of us. There was legitimate improvement with this team for the first time in a long time and when this got tough, nobody quit on the coaching staff or the team. I'm not a glass half full guy, but there have been some good things around this team since Pettine took over.

    they collapsed at the end of the season losing 5 straight...you cannot say they did not quit...when you lose your last 5 games of the season that is not good...we had a qb at the beginning of the season, ended the season with no qb...we still don't have a legit qb...plus many other issues. i don't care what kind of defense we have on the field, they will collapse again due to an inept offense...we have no elite players on offense...and the defense really is not elite either...we have bits and pieces...which is what we always have yr after yr...bits and pieces..i guess we still have some time left for free agency, but i would not bet a friggin penny we get anyone that is have way decent...i hope i am wrong...

    @browns52 said:

    you cannot say they did not quit...

    We did not quit... You cannot have watched the last five games if you think the team did.

    @opal312 said:

    While I like Hawkins and Hartline we can't pass on a big receiver again.

    Sure we can...

    cbbacker said:

    Thank you. Ahem!! (long dramatic pause) I actually have nothing to say about (Watkins) at the moment, but it's nice knowing IF I want to talk about him, I can. Thank you.

    For decades Tom Watkins has had one of the simplest, prettiest golf swings in the history of the game.

  • I started this thread thinking it might bring some positivity.....

    @londonbrown said:

    I started this thread thinking it might bring some positivity.....

    Why? When it is a rehash of something long past? All it did was invite griping.

  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    My new favorite quote.

    Thanks, I am glad I have your support. So explain how Gordon lead the league in yards while missing 2 games? Did we have Peyton, Tom, Drew? Nope we had... wait for it, WAIT FOR IT.. DUN DU DUH!!! Brandon Weeden, and Brian Hoyer!!! They gave us a league leading receiver, how do you explain that? What was our record that year? I know we must of had a 10-6 season right?

    I didn't say we didn't need a QB to win, I just pointed out anyone can throw the ball. Make sure you understand my post before trying to insult me for it.

    cbbacker said:

    Thanks, I am glad I have your support. So explain how Gordon lead the league in yards while missing 2 games? Did we have Peyton, Tom, Drew? Nope we had... wait for it, WAIT FOR IT.. DUN DU DUH!!! Brandon Weeden, and Brian Hoyer!!! They gave us a league leading receiver, how do you explain that? What was our record that year? I know we must of had a 10-6 season right?

    I didn't say we didn't need a QB to win, I just pointed out anyone can throw the ball. Make sure you understand my post before trying to insult me for it.

    What are Brandon Weeden and Brian Hoyer? Are they fullbacks?

  • cbbacker said:

    Thanks, I am glad I have your support. So explain how Gordon lead the league in yards while missing 2 games? Did we have Peyton, Tom, Drew? Nope we had... wait for it, WAIT FOR IT.. DUN DU DUH!!! Brandon Weeden, and Brian Hoyer!!! They gave us a league leading receiver, how do you explain that? What was our record that year? I know we must of had a 10-6 season right?

    I didn't say we didn't need a QB to win, I just pointed out anyone can throw the ball. Make sure you understand my post before trying to insult me for it.

    What are Brandon Weeden and Brian Hoyer? Are they fullbacks?

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    What are Brandon Weeden and Brian Hoyer? Are they fullbacks?

    They are both Texans......what did I win??

  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    What are Brandon Weeden and Brian Hoyer? Are they fullbacks?

    They are both Texans......what did I win??

    @mudfly said:

    They are both Texans......what did I win??

    Dallas traded Wheezy? 😉