Jonathan Paul Manziel
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Manziel WAS one of the biggest self-promoters in sports
fixed it for ya.
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Here's one from The Factory... it involves five teams.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Manziel left rehab to go on trip
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Hoping it's a vacation
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Here's one from The Factory... it involves five teams.
Here's one from The Factory... it involves five teams.
thats a wow.....too much going on for me to absorb it all.....
though I did note they also had the Browns trading up to grab Cooper.....which is an idea that I HATE.....
otherwise....interestink
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Why would we trade away an unproven QB for another unproven QB?
I know many of you don't like Manziel and rightfully so,
but if any team ever gives up on 1st round QB after 5 fucking quarters... it's lunacy.
See if he can turn it around this year, if not then you have a nice crop of QB's next year.
Why would we trade away an unproven QB for another unproven QB?
I know many of you don't like Manziel and rightfully so,
but if any team ever gives up on 1st round QB after 5 fucking quarters... it's lunacy.
See if he can turn it around this year, if not then you have a nice crop of QB's next year.
Exactly. My thread is a reaction to the wave of Johnny hate. Let the guy flame out first before you call him a bust. Still, Manziel for Mallett isn't unreasonable.
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This isn't my crazy speculation but it does have........ Mariota a brown???
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/mock-drafts/brian-baldinger/245600
Maybe Brian, took a few too many shots to the head during his playing days.....but maybe not....
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Got away with his girl. Still in rehab. Still 5'11. Still overwhelmed by speed of NFL game.
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Zombo said:
Got away with his girl. Still in rehab. Still 5'11. Still overwhelmed by speed of NFL game.
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Still an NFL quarterback, unlike us. Dude's yucking it up.
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lol It just keeps getting better. What a great 1st round drafting machine we are.
Not a viable starter from what...our last five first round picks....Johnny Rehab, Mingo ate my baby, Aarp weeden, gilbert grape, the other name eludes me...thanks to therapy.
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Personally, I'm just growing tired of the shit-talking pessimists who contribute nothing to this board other than bitching and complaining. This is my attempt to get actual intelligent people like yourself to have conversation, since this requires a little more critical thinking than "MANZIEL is a FUCKING DRUNK and is a FAGGOT" or "fuck haslam fuck the front office fuck farmer we need to shitcan everyone and start over". TC
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So very tired. Apparently, it's been a contest with a few people, to see who could be the worst of it.
I figure Gordon will come back after a year, out of shape, stoned on his ass, get dropped out of training camp...
and he'll sue the NFL for not giving him a chance.....
You can keep shooting rainbows out your ass and stay positive, but people spend good money and have a right to bitch and complain when they get screwed over year after year. You dont have to click on the threads or even read them. It will quiet down as moves are made and they are quiet in FA so peeps have nothing to divert to.Personally, I'm just growing tired of the shit-talking pessimists who contribute nothing to this board other than bitching and complaining. This is my attempt to get actual intelligent people like yourself to have conversation, since this requires a little more critical thinking than "MANZIEL is a FUCKING DRUNK and is a FAGGOT" or "fuck haslam fuck the front office fuck farmer we need to shitcan everyone and start over". TC
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So very tired. Apparently, it's been a contest with a few people, to see who could be the worst of it.
I figure Gordon will come back after a year, out of shape, stoned on his ass, get dropped out of training camp...
and he'll sue the NFL for not giving him a chance.....
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Not a viable starter from what...our last five first round picks....Johnny Rehab, Mingo ate my baby, Aarp weeden, gilbert grape, the other name eludes me...thanks to therapy.
TR baby!
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Not a viable starter from what...our last five first round picks....Johnny Rehab, Mingo ate my baby, Aarp weeden, gilbert grape, the other name eludes me...thanks to therapy.
I will be interested to see how many fans will be praising gilbert after this year. He has all the tools and is working with Haden to have a strong season next year. I was happy when the Browns drafted him and look forward to watching his progress next year. With Haden, Desir, Williams, and Gilbert I think we are in good shape and I am glad we did not re-sign Mr. Flag Buster Skrine or feel the need to sign any other over priced Free Agent DB.
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This isn't my crazy speculation but it does have........ Mariota a brown???
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/mock-drafts/brian-baldinger/245600
Maybe Brian, took a few too many shots to the head during his playing days.....but maybe not....
This isn't my crazy speculation but it does have........ Mariota a brown???
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/mock-drafts/brian-baldinger/245600
Maybe Brian, took a few too many shots to the head during his playing days.....but maybe not....
Mariota falling to 12 is a bold prediction, but Leonard Williams falling to 8 is sheer lunacy.
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Remember everyone here that thought tho was a good pick? Remember all of the Aggie trolls? Where'd they all go?
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Remember everyone here that thought tho was a good pick? Remember all of the Aggie trolls? Where'd they all go?
Remember everyone here that thought tho was a good pick? Remember all of the Aggie trolls? Where'd they all go?
everyone is not true. i hated the pick.
all the trolls have left. maybe if manziel makes it to training camp we'll see some back, but the way things are going, i doubt it. who wants to jump on that bandwagon again as it goes over the cliff in flames?
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I hated the pick also. He's 5'11" and can't read defenses
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I was a big Hoyer fan and was hoping he would get resigned. The guy just made a huge impression with me the way he came in after Weedon got hurt and suddenly an offense that couldn't move the ball was reeling off 3 straight wins with Hoyer under center and things were looking good until he got hurt. Then this year we were leading the division at 6-3 with Hoyer over half way through the season until we slumped the rest of the year. Some say defenses figured out Hoyer and shut him down but I believe Hoyer is a good qb with a running game but when Mack got hurt and our running game dropped off there are not that many qb's that will do well without having a running game and Hoyer struggled.
My initial thought with McCown was how was this any kind of upgrade? When the club signed Brian Hartline he said he was impressed with what the coaches were building in Cleveland (I have heard a number of players say this now) and didn't understand why the fans wouldn't trust the coaches on McCown. I will go with that. I have a lot of confidence in Pettine. He hasn't made any secret his goal is to improve the defense to be one of the best in the league. We will have the ability to win games with our defense.
With JM the Browns are doing everything they can for him after he gets out of rehab to help him be an NFL quarterback. I see that with some of the coaches they hired and McCown who also is more than willing to mentor JM.
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