Jonathan Paul Manziel

LBC mike

Manziel left rehab to go on trip

LBC mike

Hoping it's a vacation

Mudfly

@tour2ma said:

Here's one from The Factory... it involves five teams.

http://nflmocks.com/2015/03/13/2015-nfl-mock-draft-trade-plague-infects-the-draft/?utm_source=FanSided&utm_medium=Network&utm_campaign=Around%20the%20Network

thats a wow.....too much going on for me to absorb it all.....

though I did note they also had the Browns trading up to grab Cooper.....which is an idea that I HATE.....

otherwise....interestink

Zombo

Got away with his girl. Still in rehab. Still 5'11. Still overwhelmed by speed of NFL game.

Z

SkippinTurtles

@walterwhite said:

Why would we trade away an unproven QB for another unproven QB?

I know many of you don't like Manziel and rightfully so,

but if any team ever gives up on 1st round QB after 5 fucking quarters... it's lunacy.

See if he can turn it around this year, if not then you have a nice crop of QB's next year.

Exactly. My thread is a reaction to the wave of Johnny hate. Let the guy flame out first before you call him a bust. Still, Manziel for Mallett isn't unreasonable.

ColumbusKing

This isn't my crazy speculation but it does have........ Mariota a brown???

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/mock-drafts/brian-baldinger/245600

Maybe Brian, took a few too many shots to the head during his playing days.....but maybe not....

Tim Couch Pulls Out

Zombo said:

Got away with his girl. Still in rehab. Still 5'11. Still overwhelmed by speed of NFL game.

Z

Still an NFL quarterback, unlike us. Dude's yucking it up.

Kvoethe

@d-bone said:
lol It just keeps getting better. What a great 1st round drafting machine we are.

Not a viable starter from what...our last five first round picks....Johnny Rehab, Mingo ate my baby, Aarp weeden, gilbert grape, the other name eludes me...thanks to therapy.

Kvoethe

@calfoxwc said:

Personally, I'm just growing tired of the shit-talking pessimists who contribute nothing to this board other than bitching and complaining. This is my attempt to get actual intelligent people like yourself to have conversation, since this requires a little more critical thinking than "MANZIEL is a FUCKING DRUNK and is a FAGGOT" or "fuck haslam fuck the front office fuck farmer we need to shitcan everyone and start over". TC

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So very tired. Apparently, it's been a contest with a few people, to see who could be the worst of it.

I figure Gordon will come back after a year, out of shape, stoned on his ass, get dropped out of training camp...

and he'll sue the NFL for not giving him a chance.....

You can keep shooting rainbows out your ass and stay positive, but people spend good money and have a right to bitch and complain when they get screwed over year after year. You dont have to click on the threads or even read them. It will quiet down as moves are made and they are quiet in FA so peeps have nothing to divert to.

cvcanedy

@kvoethe said:
Not a viable starter from what...our last five first round picks....Johnny Rehab, Mingo ate my baby, Aarp weeden, gilbert grape, the other name eludes me...thanks to therapy.

TR baby!

Kvoethe

@cvcanedy said:
TR baby!

Tyvm

JJmac28

@kvoethe said:
Not a viable starter from what...our last five first round picks....Johnny Rehab, Mingo ate my baby, Aarp weeden, gilbert grape, the other name eludes me...thanks to therapy.

I will be interested to see how many fans will be praising gilbert after this year. He has all the tools and is working with Haden to have a strong season next year. I was happy when the Browns drafted him and look forward to watching his progress next year. With Haden, Desir, Williams, and Gilbert I think we are in good shape and I am glad we did not re-sign Mr. Flag Buster Skrine or feel the need to sign any other over priced Free Agent DB.

Kvoethe

Mariota's stock will drop..guaranteed. Overthrew deep balls on pro day, no zip on the ball in endzone schemes. Doesnt have a canon for an arm and some bad college habits, not the johnny rehab ones, im talking making the transition to pros.

RoyceRolls

@columbusking said:

This isn't my crazy speculation but it does have........ Mariota a brown???

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/mock-drafts/brian-baldinger/245600

Maybe Brian, took a few too many shots to the head during his playing days.....but maybe not....

Mariota falling to 12 is a bold prediction, but Leonard Williams falling to 8 is sheer lunacy.

MLD Woody

Remember everyone here that thought tho was a good pick? Remember all of the Aggie trolls? Where'd they all go?

miktoxic

@mld-woody said:
Remember everyone here that thought tho was a good pick? Remember all of the Aggie trolls? Where'd they all go?

everyone is not true. i hated the pick.

all the trolls have left. maybe if manziel makes it to training camp we'll see some back, but the way things are going, i doubt it. who wants to jump on that bandwagon again as it goes over the cliff in flames?

Browns149

I hated the pick also. He's 5'11" and can't read defenses

OldBrownsFan

I was a big Hoyer fan and was hoping he would get resigned. The guy just made a huge impression with me the way he came in after Weedon got hurt and suddenly an offense that couldn't move the ball was reeling off 3 straight wins with Hoyer under center and things were looking good until he got hurt. Then this year we were leading the division at 6-3 with Hoyer over half way through the season until we slumped the rest of the year. Some say defenses figured out Hoyer and shut him down but I believe Hoyer is a good qb with a running game but when Mack got hurt and our running game dropped off there are not that many qb's that will do well without having a running game and Hoyer struggled.

My initial thought with McCown was how was this any kind of upgrade? When the club signed Brian Hartline he said he was impressed with what the coaches were building in Cleveland (I have heard a number of players say this now) and didn't understand why the fans wouldn't trust the coaches on McCown. I will go with that. I have a lot of confidence in Pettine. He hasn't made any secret his goal is to improve the defense to be one of the best in the league. We will have the ability to win games with our defense.

With JM the Browns are doing everything they can for him after he gets out of rehab to help him be an NFL quarterback. I see that with some of the coaches they hired and McCown who also is more than willing to mentor JM.

http://www.wkyc.com/story/sports/nfl/browns/2015/03/12/brian-hartline-envisions-success-for-cleveland-browns/70138756/

Tim Couch Pulls Out

@kvoethe said:
You can keep shooting rainbows out your ass and stay positive, but people spend good money and have a right to bitch and complain when they get screwed over year after year. You dont have to click on the threads or even read them. It will quiet down as moves are made and they are quiet in FA so peeps have nothing to divert to.

You don't have to spend "good money", either.

Why should everyone else have to suffer because you make terrible financial decisions?

Zombo

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:
Still an NFL quarterback, unlike us. Dude's yucking it up.

Yeah, I know, but when you get to my age you don't much care about them as a person anymore, just fucking win.

20 years of heartbreak followed by 20 years of pain and crappy football leaves you a little jaded.

I don't care about your private life, it's all about "what can you do for my Browns". With Johnny so far it's .... not much.

Zombo