Jonathan Paul Manziel
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A first round draft pick, with the potential (according to Browns evaluators) of becoming the face of the Browns in the near future ends up in rehab after the end of his first season. The transition from college to pro was not
going well with veterans questioning his work ethic and doubting his leadership potential as he struggled learning and executing plays from a watered down offensive scheme solely catered to his so-called strengths. It's
documented his inclination to keep long hours on the party circuit. Looking back there were obvious red flags indicating JM needed guidance and quickly yet Browns head of player security, Lewis Merlitti, kept his head buried
in the sand along with the other staff members whose primary task is to develop players who can help the Browns win on Sunday. Hindsight is of course 20 -20 but I feel there should have been an intervention far sooner
than seasons end. There was a breakdown somewhere in the system and Haslam should be asking himself if he has the right components in place for a young player to develop
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A first round draft pick, with the potential (according to Browns evaluators) of becoming the face of the Browns in the near future ends up in rehab after the end of his first season. The transition from college to pro was not
going well with veterans questioning his work ethic and doubting his leadership potential as he struggled learning and executing plays from a watered down offensive scheme solely catered to his so-called strengths. It's
documented his inclination to keep long hours on the party circuit. Looking back there were obvious red flags indicating JM needed guidance and quickly yet Browns head of player security, Lewis Merlitti, kept his head buried
in the sand along with the other staff members whose primary task is to develop players who can help the Browns win on Sunday. Hindsight is of course 20 -20 but I feel there should have been an intervention far sooner
than seasons end. There was a breakdown somewhere in the system and Haslam should be asking himself if he has the right components in place for a young player to develop
. It's documented his inclination to keep long hours on the party circuit. Looking back there were obvious red flags indicating JM needed guidance and quickly yet Browns head of player security, Lewis Merlitti, kept his head buried in the sand along with the other staff members whose primary task is to develop players who can help the Browns win on Sunday. Hindsight is of course 20 -20 but I feel there should have been an intervention far sooner than seasons end. There was a breakdown somewhere in the system and Haslam should be asking himself if he has the right components in place for a young player to develop
Couple of things- forced interventions rarely turn out well. Possibly Manziel saw what happened to Gordon, saw himself going down the same career ending track, and decided to do something about it.
He had to want it. As Abraham Lincoln once said- "think for a moment how hard it is to change yourself, and you will realize what little hope you have of changing others."
If you want a failure- it was the failure of Farmer and Pettine to not dig deep enough into Manziel's psyche before they drafted him. Thought they could "manage" him. Wrong. But my 20\20 hindsight says Manziel would have wound up in the same place (rehab) regardless of which team eventually drafted him.
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Roger on the forced intervention but my angle is why they gave him the long leash coming in with a recent history of abuse. as mik keeps harping, the control over the prized qb investment was sorely lacking, all things considered.
time for some green beer......Happy Saint Patricks day flamers
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These ass-wipes keep talking about our receivers like Gordon was here all of last year and amassed 1500 yards.
Our guys did pretty well IMO.
Do you ever feel like just slapping somebody?
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These ass-wipes keep talking about our receivers like Gordon was here all of last year and amassed 1500 yards.
Our guys did pretty well IMO.
Do you ever feel like just slapping somebody?
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Life is more important than football.
yessir.
i'm just wondering now how this will affect the browns approach to the upcoming draft. do they make decisions based upon what they think manziel might and might not be able to do or just disregard him all together and go about it as though mccown will be the starter (as a lot of us have thought since the signing) and manziel won't be there?
yessir.
i'm just wondering now how this will affect the browns approach to the upcoming draft. do they make decisions based upon what they think manziel might and might not be able to do or just disregard him all together and go about it as though mccown will be the starter (as a lot of us have thought since the signing) and manziel won't be there?
do we even know what draft pick or picks we are going to lose because of the bonehead gm...
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yessir.
i'm just wondering now how this will affect the browns approach to the upcoming draft. do they make decisions based upon what they think manziel might and might not be able to do or just disregard him all together and go about it as though mccown will be the starter (as a lot of us have thought since the signing) and manziel won't be there?
do we even know what draft pick or picks we are going to lose because of the bonehead gm...
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Irrespective of the trimmings, the core question is valid.
While I doubt we lose any picks, were we to lose any then given the league's history of expediting decisions that effect us, I'd expect an official to tackle our runner taking that pick's name up front.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Sweet.
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I'll drink to that
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Kid is trying to straighten himself out and some make fun of him. I give him credit.
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I don't get the making fun of a terrible addiction, and a person who realizes
they need help and goes for it, especially all in the public eye.
So many families have had their lives damaged by these addictions, and so many
kids grew up having to deal with it.
It's no joking matter. I'm hoping he gets his life back, and becomes all he can be, and
has a great life.
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I don't get the making fun of a terrible addiction, and a person who realizes
they need help and goes for it, especially all in the public eye.
So many families have had their lives damaged by these addictions, and so many
kids grew up having to deal with it.
It's no joking matter. I'm hoping he gets his life back, and becomes all he can be, and
has a great life.
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Dammit, that was funny.....
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Any o' you homos touch me, and I'll kill you.
(Funny thing....my nieces husband is in the military....some special ops stuff, but his name is Francis. I always think of that scene when I see him. Oddly though, when I asked him about it....he had never seen the movie or even knew about that line.....which I find hard to believe, but to be sure, I wasn't about to mess with him over it. This is a guy that did a year guarding the terrorists at Gitmo)
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These comments... Hahaha
Let's just swing by the last Gordon thread real quick...
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