Dwayne Bowe is a Brown
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a lot of money for bowe. holy shit who's drinking that water???
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Looks surprisingly backloaded....
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Looks surprisingly backloaded....
Looks surprisingly backloaded....
That's surprising. That's awfully franchise friendly if Gordon comes back and decides to play football.
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Looks surprisingly backloaded....
Looks surprisingly backloaded....
Had a feeling...
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16th highest WR contract? Gross.
16th highest WR contract? Gross.
So? They have the money to spend, and they have to spend a % based on NFL rules. I'm not saying they should just throw money around, but this contract is fine.
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well it certainly isn't a big deal, but the fact remains: we overpaid for a WR on the wrong side of 30.
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The receivers at KC didn't have any because they were terrible - and because the QB was Alex Smith.
All Bowe does is drop passes and not run actual routes.
Bowe is not a good player.. he'll simply slack off and pocket the cash. and for the record, the cash is the same value as Percy Harvin - but for an additional year. Bowe is not and will never be Percy Harvin.. Harvin has actual talent. [Harvin 1yr/$6, Bowe 2/$12] Even Stevie Johnson [3/$10] is more talented for less money.
Should have signed Matt Moore and/or Christian Ponder instead of McCown.. those 2 are each better and younger than McCown.
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Conversely, Percy has talent but is nothing short of a head case.
So choose to shoot yourself in the head or the chest between the two.
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The receivers at KC didn't have any because they were terrible - and because the QB was Alex Smith.
All Bowe does is drop passes and not run actual routes.
Bowe is not a good player.. he'll simply slack off and pocket the cash. and for the record, the cash is the same value as Percy Harvin - but for an additional year. Bowe is not and will never be Percy Harvin.. Harvin has actual talent. [Harvin 1yr/$6, Bowe 2/$12] Even Stevie Johnson [3/$10] is more talented for less money.
Should have signed Matt Moore and/or Christian Ponder instead of McCown.. those 2 are each better and younger than McCown.
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All Bowe does is drop passes and not run actual routes.
Bowe is not a good player.. he'll simply slack off and pocket the cash.
Bowe is not and will never be Percy Harvin............ Harvin has actual talent.
He drops more passes than Harvin?.....really?.....how much do you want to bet?
Not a good player, so he'll slack off and pocket the cash???.......that sounds more like a character issue than a playing issue.....got any solid facts on why you think this is???......cause Ive heard the opposite in terms of his effort, work ethic and professionalism....
Harvin?....you mean the guy who has been cut loose 3 times in 2 years and has still never had a 1000 yd season?.....that guy?
The only superstar WR Ive ever seen that averages 600 yds and a dismissal each season....
Conversely, Bowe has more catches...more TD's....more yards....more ProBowls....for more years than Harvin..... Its not even close, really.....and, so far, he also has never been cut, traded, suspended or given away by his team......hmmmm.....tough choice there...
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All Bowe does is drop passes and not run actual routes.
Bowe is not a good player.. he'll simply slack off and pocket the cash.
Bowe is not and will never be Percy Harvin............ Harvin has actual talent.
He drops more passes than Harvin?.....really?.....how much do you want to bet?
Not a good player, so he'll slack off and pocket the cash???.......that sounds more like a character issue than a playing issue.....got any solid facts on why you think this is???......cause Ive heard the opposite in terms of his effort, work ethic and professionalism....
Harvin?....you mean the guy who has been cut loose 3 times in 2 years and has still never had a 1000 yd season?.....that guy?
The only superstar WR Ive ever seen that averages 600 yds and a dismissal each season....
Conversely, Bowe has more catches...more TD's....more yards....more ProBowls....for more years than Harvin..... Its not even close, really.....and, so far, he also has never been cut, traded, suspended or given away by his team......hmmmm.....tough choice there...
He drops more passes than Harvin?.....really?.....how much do you want to bet?
Not a good player, so he'll slack off and pocket the cash???.......that sounds more like a character issue than a playing issue.....got any solid facts on why you think this is???......cause Ive heard the opposite in terms of his effort, work ethic and professionalism....
Harvin?....you mean the guy who has been cut loose 3 times in 2 years and has still never had a 1000 yd season?.....that guy?
The only superstar WR Ive ever seen that averages 600 yds and a dismissal each season....
Conversely, Bowe has more catches...more TD's....more yards....more ProBowls....for more years than Harvin..... Its not even close, really.....and, so far, he also has never been cut, traded, suspended or given away by his team......hmmmm.....tough choice there...
While I can't disagree with anything you have written I will add when it comes to making plays at this point in time Harvin is the bigger threat.
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He drops more passes than Harvin?.....really?.....how much do you want to bet?
Not a good player, so he'll slack off and pocket the cash???.......that sounds more like a character issue than a playing issue.....got any solid facts on why you think this is???......cause Ive heard the opposite in terms of his effort, work ethic and professionalism....
Harvin?....you mean the guy who has been cut loose 3 times in 2 years and has still never had a 1000 yd season?.....that guy?
The only superstar WR Ive ever seen that averages 600 yds and a dismissal each season....
Conversely, Bowe has more catches...more TD's....more yards....more ProBowls....for more years than Harvin..... Its not even close, really.....and, so far, he also has never been cut, traded, suspended or given away by his team......hmmmm.....tough choice there...
While I can't disagree with anything you have written I will add when it comes to making plays at this point in time Harvin is the bigger threat.
While I can't disagree with anything you have written I will add when it comes to making plays at this point in time Harvin is the bigger threat.
So, you cant disagree with my disagreement with what you said?.......then I agree...
Id also agree that Harvin is the WAY bigger threat..........(to his team).....
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my feelings about signing dwayne bowe:
now catch the freakin ball!!!!!!!!!
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The scoop on our pursuit...
I fear it's another case of an executive still looking to justify his drafting a player... maybe more than one executive in this case. Hope I'm wrong...- They believe they know Dwayne Bowe better than most teams. It was Bill Kuharich who had a hand in drafting Bowe in 2007 when he was Kansas City's Vice President of Player Personnel. He is now the Browns Executive Chief of Staff, working with General Manager Ray Farmer, who was with the Chiefs from 2006-12 as a scout and in the pro personnel department.
- The Browns believe Bowe is determined to show he is still a very good receiver. A change of teams will help. He was criticized in Kansas City for not producing enough to match the five-year, $56 million contract he signed before 2013. He was scheduled to be paid $15 million in 2015, and that's why the Chiefs cut him.
- The Browns expected Bowe would be cut. They had him as their top target among available veterans. They wanted a big target, and Bowe is 6-foot-2, 220 pounds. They know he drops some passes -- he had seven last season compared to 60 catches. But they also believe he can make tough catches in traffic. Bowe also is considered an excellent blocker.
http://www.cleveland.com/pluto/index.ssf/2015/03/cleveland_browns_notes_have_te.html
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Im not trying to make Bowe into something he's not, so I wont say he catches everything in sight or is the greatest....BUT....he is an upgrade to OUR receiving corp and doesn't drop as many passes as it seems like Im hearing.....
"drops" cant be looked at alone....the # of targets makes a big difference in how many drops there are, so I prefer to look at a better stat....like % of passes caught.....
But first, If it's just drops, last season Bowe had 7 drops......Here are a few others...Calvin Johnson had 7....Demaryous Thomas had 9....Julio Jones had 8.....Torrey Smith had 11.....Anquan Boldin had 10.....Julian Edelman had 11.....Kelvin Benjiman had 11.....Mohammed Sanu had 14........etc etc....
Last season, Bowe caught 66.7% of the passes thrown to him(which is top 32 in the league)......
Here are some names that catch a lower percentage......... TY Hilton, Julio Jones, Dez Bryant, AJ Green, Larry Fitzgerald, D. Thomas, M. Colston, Mike Wallace, Brandon Marshall, Andre Johnson, Steve Smith, Mike Evans, Reggie Wayne, Percy Harvin, M. Sanu, Calvin Johnson, Torrey Smith, Martavious Bryant, Kelvin Benjamin, Vincent Jackson.....to name a few(there are many many more).....
So....the list above reads like a who's who of NFL receivers, yet they all catch a lower percentage than Bowe......so, there's that...
Finally.....guess who has the lowest catch rate in the ENTIRE NFL??????.......our boy Benji at 39% (youch)...so Bowe is a nice upgrade to THAT.... if yer askin me.......
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While I can't disagree with anything you have written I will add when it comes to making plays at this point in time Harvin is the bigger threat.
So, you cant disagree with my disagreement with what you said?.......then I agree...
Id also agree that Harvin is the WAY bigger threat..........(to his team).....
So, you cant disagree with my disagreement with what you said?.......then I agree...
Id also agree that Harvin is the WAY bigger threat..........(to his team).....
You weren't responding to me.
Harvin is a bigger threat than Bowe offensively, whether or not he lives up to that potential or causes more locker room problems is the question. To deny his talent is just being Brownish (a new term developed for the hardcore fan that believes everything Browns is right and everything that isn't is wrong)
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