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Robert Kraft is an Asshat

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  • Opal312O Opal312

    BRAVO! It seems todays' owners belong to an elite club of callous, uncaring, greedy fools. Los Angeles had no fan base but San Diego does. We in Cleveland know all too well what it's like to have your team move to another city. It would be nice to see Kraft's Patriots in Los Angeles. Maybe then they would belong to a division that gave them some competition.

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    @opal312 said:

    BRAVO! It seems todays' owners belong to an elite club of callous, uncaring, greedy fools. Los Angeles had no fan base but San Diego does. We in Cleveland know all too well what it's like to have your team move to another city. It would be nice to see Kraft's Patriots in Los Angeles. Maybe then they would belong to a division that gave them some competition.

    Callous, greedy billionaires? What a novel idea...

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      Those callous greedy billionaires employ a hell of a lot of people, many of them for a lot more money than they'd make doing anything else.

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        I don't see how one has anything to do with the other....

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          L LondonBrown wrote on last edited by
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          Everything about the Patriots, the whole organisation, just stinks.

          I hate them.

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          • W wargograw

            Those callous greedy billionaires employ a hell of a lot of people, many of them for a lot more money than they'd make doing anything else.

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            The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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            @wargograw said:

            Those callous greedy billionaires employ a hell of a lot of people, many of them for a lot more money than they'd make doing anything else.

            OK, well, then the Patriots and the Cowboys can move to LA, give people there those jobs, and put the people in the town they are leaving out on the street.

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              W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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              san Diego is closer to Los Angeles than Columbus is to Cleveland. just an FYI.

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                san Diego is closer to Los Angeles than Columbus is to Cleveland. just an FYI.

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                The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                @westside-steve said:

                san Diego is closer to Los Angeles than Columbus is to Cleveland. just an FYI.

                WSS

                To salve the feelings....if they move out of SD, they should call them the Southern California Chargers.

                Or how about following the lead of another SoCal team.

                The San Diego Chargers of Los Angeles.

                Though, according to this article, it is still highly possible that LA will get squadoosh:

                http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2015/03/24/los-angeles-st-louis-rams-san-diego-chargers-oakland-raiders-stan-kroenke/70404784/

                OK, so here is the deal: HEY, NFL asshole owners.....you want a team in LA? Vote for expansion and shut the fuck up about moving teams there.

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                • Mark O Mark OM Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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                  Mark OM Mark O wrote on last edited by
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                  The Chargers will be one of the teams playing in Los Angeles. Its a 99% certainty

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                  • Mark OM Mark O

                    The Chargers will be one of the teams playing in Los Angeles. Its a 99% certainty

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                    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                    @mark-o said:

                    The Chargers will be one of the teams playing in Los Angeles. Its a 99% certainty

                    But, apparently, Phillip Rivers will not be their QB when that happens....per reports.

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                      Those callous greedy billionaires employ a hell of a lot of people, many of them for a lot more money than they'd make doing anything else.

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                      @wargograw said:

                      Those callous greedy billionaires employ a hell of a lot of people, many of them for a lot more money than they'd make doing anything else.

                      Assumes facts not in evidence.

                      1) Define the terms "employ" and "a lot"

                      * Food service workers don't receive a salary, they're just "allowed" to be there selling things.

                      * Ticket checkers and ushers get about 2 hours at minimum wage before taxes are taken out.

                      * Cheerleaders get under $20/game.

                      These people aren't employed by any stretch of the imagination. Do you consider yourself an "employer" if you drive to Home Depot at 5am and say you're going to offer 3 hours of pay if some day laborers will work for 6 hours?

                      2) It's not "a lot" more than the same professionals "would have achieved" somewhere else.

                      * Scouts start at 20k/yr

                      * Ticket sales staff starts at 35k/yr

                      * Scouting director starts at 95k

                      * Athletic trainer staff starts at 35k/yr

                      This is industry average.. and not "a lot' of positions.

                      Similar positions exist with the colleges and/or medical professions in every city where there's an NFL team.. the job itself is somewhat fungible because a person could easily transition from a position with the Bengals to the same with UC, for example. Also, show proof that the salaries paid by NFL teams are significantly above industry average.. good luck.

                      This isn't a case of "unique job unable to be duplicated" - nope, if the team wants to sell tickets to the local population for any length of time, they will staff these positions.. and if they move, they still have to staff these positions.

                      You've got the causality wrong.... the billionaires don't "create" anything -- without the TICKET PAYERS, no profit exists. The team exists because of the ticket payers, not the other way around. Think of an NFL team as a business whose sole job is to sell tickets.

                      The reason Al Davis left LA the last time is because nobody cares enough in LA to pay for tickets.. and that's exactly what will happen again.

                      The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown
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                        W wargograw wrote on last edited by
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                        In response to your second point, I didn't say "would have achieved," because I know how to write. Not sure why you put that in quotes. They also pay a bunch of borderline Retarded kids, many lacking a college degree, millions of dollars a year.

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                          The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                          Exactly....the NFL makes money and exists at such a high level because of fan interest.

                          What if the fans were not so interested in that sport? What would happen then? They could be like Major League LaCrosse, the WNBA,

                          Or this....a very popular sport at some levels...but not at the pros:

                          http://www.usapvl.com/

                          And what happened to the Team Tennis League.

                          So, check this out.....what if some other sport became just as popular

                          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_professional_sports_leagues_by_revenue

                          Only the English Premier Soccer League horns in on the US/Canada Big Four sports in terms of revenue.

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                          • W wargograw

                            In response to your second point, I didn't say "would have achieved," because I know how to write. Not sure why you put that in quotes. They also pay a bunch of borderline Retarded kids, many lacking a college degree, millions of dollars a year.

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                            Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                            @wargograw said:

                            In response to your second point, I didn't say "would have achieved," because I know how to write. Not sure why you put that in quotes. They also pay a bunch of borderline Retarded kids, many lacking a college degree, millions of dollars a year.

                            Awesome example of your "writing" there...

                            Want to guess why I put writing in quotes?

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                              Yes, it was pretty awesome.

                              You didn't put "writing" in quotes. You put in quotes something I hadn't said. So no I don't want to guess, because I have no guess.

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                                Good idea unsympathetic. Go get the tar and feathers! Northeast Ohio will be much better off without these rich bastards! We can just split up those millions and give it to the poor!

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                                  Everything about the Patriots, the whole organisation, just stinks.

                                  I hate them.

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                                  @londonbrown said:

                                  Everything about the Patriots, the whole organisation, just stinks.

                                  I hate them.

                                  oh I know, which is why I barely watched the SB. Hated both teams. Was a total lose lose for me.

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                                    @wargograw said:

                                    In response to your second point, I didn't say "would have achieved," because I know how to write. Not sure why you put that in quotes. They also pay a bunch of borderline Retarded kids, many lacking a college degree, millions of dollars a year.

                                    Awesome example of your "writing" there...

                                    Want to guess why I put writing in quotes?

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                                    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                                    @tour2ma said:

                                    Awesome example of your "writing" there...

                                    Want to guess why I put writing in quotes?

                                    @wargograw said:

                                    Yes, it was pretty awesome.

                                    You didn't put "writing" in quotes. You put in quotes something I hadn't said. So no I don't want to guess, because I have no guess.

                                    Blind as well as dense I see...

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                                      B BaconHound wrote on last edited by
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                                      NFL fans, like a lot of Americans, believe that by showing loyalty it will be reciprocated. Unfortunately the 99% don't realize they are nothing more than consumers to make the 1% more wealthy but I digress into socialist propaganda.

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                                        @tour2ma said:

                                        Awesome example of your "writing" there...

                                        Want to guess why I put writing in quotes?

                                        @wargograw said:

                                        Yes, it was pretty awesome.

                                        You didn't put "writing" in quotes. You put in quotes something I hadn't said. So no I don't want to guess, because I have no guess.

                                        Blind as well as dense I see...

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                                        W wargograw wrote on last edited by
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                                        @tour2ma said:

                                        Blind as well as dense I see...

                                        About what I expected from someone who's wrong.

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                                          C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                                          Awesome example of your "writing" there...

                                          Want to guess why I put writing in quotes? Tour

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                                          You didn't put "writing" in quotes. You put in quotes something I hadn't said. So no I don't want to guess, because I have no guess.WARG

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                                          Oh, this is going to be good. Oh, be a sport, Warg, go ahead and take a guess....

                                          Glad I read this tonight, instead of tomorrow morning with a cup of coffee near my keyboard... 😎

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