Robert Kraft is an Asshat
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Those callous greedy billionaires employ a hell of a lot of people, many of them for a lot more money than they'd make doing anything else.
Those callous greedy billionaires employ a hell of a lot of people, many of them for a lot more money than they'd make doing anything else.
Assumes facts not in evidence.
1) Define the terms "employ" and "a lot"
* Food service workers don't receive a salary, they're just "allowed" to be there selling things.
* Ticket checkers and ushers get about 2 hours at minimum wage before taxes are taken out.
* Cheerleaders get under $20/game.
These people aren't employed by any stretch of the imagination. Do you consider yourself an "employer" if you drive to Home Depot at 5am and say you're going to offer 3 hours of pay if some day laborers will work for 6 hours?
2) It's not "a lot" more than the same professionals "would have achieved" somewhere else.
* Scouts start at 20k/yr
* Ticket sales staff starts at 35k/yr
* Scouting director starts at 95k
* Athletic trainer staff starts at 35k/yr
This is industry average.. and not "a lot' of positions.
Similar positions exist with the colleges and/or medical professions in every city where there's an NFL team.. the job itself is somewhat fungible because a person could easily transition from a position with the Bengals to the same with UC, for example. Also, show proof that the salaries paid by NFL teams are significantly above industry average.. good luck.
This isn't a case of "unique job unable to be duplicated" - nope, if the team wants to sell tickets to the local population for any length of time, they will staff these positions.. and if they move, they still have to staff these positions.
You've got the causality wrong.... the billionaires don't "create" anything -- without the TICKET PAYERS, no profit exists. The team exists because of the ticket payers, not the other way around. Think of an NFL team as a business whose sole job is to sell tickets.
The reason Al Davis left LA the last time is because nobody cares enough in LA to pay for tickets.. and that's exactly what will happen again.
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In response to your second point, I didn't say "would have achieved," because I know how to write. Not sure why you put that in quotes. They also pay a bunch of borderline Retarded kids, many lacking a college degree, millions of dollars a year.
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Exactly....the NFL makes money and exists at such a high level because of fan interest.
What if the fans were not so interested in that sport? What would happen then? They could be like Major League LaCrosse, the WNBA,
Or this....a very popular sport at some levels...but not at the pros:
And what happened to the Team Tennis League.
So, check this out.....what if some other sport became just as popular
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_professional_sports_leagues_by_revenue
Only the English Premier Soccer League horns in on the US/Canada Big Four sports in terms of revenue.
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In response to your second point, I didn't say "would have achieved," because I know how to write. Not sure why you put that in quotes. They also pay a bunch of borderline Retarded kids, many lacking a college degree, millions of dollars a year.
In response to your second point, I didn't say "would have achieved," because I know how to write. Not sure why you put that in quotes. They also pay a bunch of borderline Retarded kids, many lacking a college degree, millions of dollars a year.
Awesome example of your "writing" there...
Want to guess why I put writing in quotes?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Yes, it was pretty awesome.
You didn't put "writing" in quotes. You put in quotes something I hadn't said. So no I don't want to guess, because I have no guess.
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Good idea unsympathetic. Go get the tar and feathers! Northeast Ohio will be much better off without these rich bastards! We can just split up those millions and give it to the poor!
WSS
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Everything about the Patriots, the whole organisation, just stinks.
I hate them.
Everything about the Patriots, the whole organisation, just stinks.
I hate them.
oh I know, which is why I barely watched the SB. Hated both teams. Was a total lose lose for me.
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In response to your second point, I didn't say "would have achieved," because I know how to write. Not sure why you put that in quotes. They also pay a bunch of borderline Retarded kids, many lacking a college degree, millions of dollars a year.
Awesome example of your "writing" there...
Want to guess why I put writing in quotes?
Awesome example of your "writing" there...
Want to guess why I put writing in quotes?
Yes, it was pretty awesome.
You didn't put "writing" in quotes. You put in quotes something I hadn't said. So no I don't want to guess, because I have no guess.
Blind as well as dense I see...
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NFL fans, like a lot of Americans, believe that by showing loyalty it will be reciprocated. Unfortunately the 99% don't realize they are nothing more than consumers to make the 1% more wealthy but I digress into socialist propaganda.
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Awesome example of your "writing" there...
Want to guess why I put writing in quotes?
Yes, it was pretty awesome.
You didn't put "writing" in quotes. You put in quotes something I hadn't said. So no I don't want to guess, because I have no guess.
Blind as well as dense I see...
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Awesome example of your "writing" there...
Want to guess why I put writing in quotes? Tour********************************************************
You didn't put "writing" in quotes. You put in quotes something I hadn't said. So no I don't want to guess, because I have no guess.WARG
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Oh, this is going to be good. Oh, be a sport, Warg, go ahead and take a guess....
Glad I read this tonight, instead of tomorrow morning with a cup of coffee near my keyboard...
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gotta love the browns board.............
only place 2 texans can be arguing about frying a guilty mfer!
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gotta love the browns board.............
only place 2 texans can be arguing about frying a guilty mfer!
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Good idea unsympathetic. Go get the tar and feathers! Northeast Ohio will be much better off without these rich bastards! We can just split up those millions and give it to the poor!
WSS
Good idea unsympathetic. Go get the tar and feathers! Northeast Ohio will be much better off without these rich bastards! We can just split up those millions and give it to the poor!
WSS
steve, don't you know everyone hates a rich prick until they become one?
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If I was Kraft, I would've gotten up there like"yeah, we got caught cheating, but who cares?! We won the Super Bowl!" I would then put on a pair of dark sunglasses and walk off stage laughing maniacally while trying to get the straw into a Capri Sun.
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san Diego is closer to Los Angeles than Columbus is to Cleveland. just an FYI.
WSS
To salve the feelings....if they move out of SD, they should call them the Southern California Chargers.
Or how about following the lead of another SoCal team.
The San Diego Chargers of Los Angeles.
Though, according to this article, it is still highly possible that LA will get squadoosh:
OK, so here is the deal: HEY, NFL asshole owners.....you want a team in LA? Vote for expansion and shut the fuck up about moving teams there.
To salve the feelings....if they move out of SD, they should call them the Southern California Chargers.
Or how about following the lead of another SoCal team.
The San Diego Chargers of Los Angeles.
Though, according to this article, it is still highly possible that LA will get squadoosh:
OK, so here is the deal: HEY, NFL asshole owners.....you want a team in LA? Vote for expansion and shut the fuck up about moving teams there.
Agreed about expansion- but a 32 team league is ideal. 4-4-4-4...
If Kraft wants a team in LA so damn bad- move the Cheatriots there, if you think it's such a great idea. I have a good friend that's been to Gillette many times, and he says it sucks. The Raiders and the Rams proved otherwise on the viability of the Los Angeles market. It's a new world with Direct Sunday ticket, and streaming video. The La-las can follow any team they take a liking to. My Alaska pal says there's tons of Seahawk fans up there- so why not expand to Anchorage?
I don't see any LA NFL fans so hot to see a live game, they bothering to make the drive south to fill up those empty seats in San Diego either. Unless they sell off 20 year PSLs in any new venue in Los Angeles, any team moved there is doomed to fail- again- MHO. I feel for the Rams fans in St Louis- I do know a few- and I'm making the road trip to see the Browns there in October.
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One of the most loathsome sports teams/organisations in the world, they have no redeeming features whatsoever, from top to bottom.
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One of the most loathsome sports teams/organisations in the world, they have no redeeming features whatsoever, from top to bottom.
One of the most loathsome sports teams/organisations in the world, they have no redeeming features whatsoever, from top to bottom.
you must be mistakenly talking about FIFA, not the patriots.
go ahead. i want to hear your defense or rebuttal cuz the patriots are like little mice in your big rat house of world 'foot'ball.
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