Breshard Perriman's Stock is Rising
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So much for me thinking we can snag Perriman in round 2 - here's a quick tidbit about the day he had yesterday:
The big story Wednesday on the Pro Day circuit was unquestionably the blazing 40-yard dash put up by Central Florida wideout Breshad Perriman, a fringe first round prospect who may have successfully run into the top 32 selections by clocking in at roughly 4.25 seconds in the all-important drill.
Suffice it to say - he can jet.
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Here's his 3 years at UCF:
2012: 14 games 26 rec 388 yds 14.9 avg 3 TD
2013: 12 games 39 rec 811 yds 20.8 avg 4 TD
2014: 13 games 50 rec 1,044 yds 20.9 avg 9 TD
They say he's raw but upside was beginning to unfold. I look at 6'3" 215 lbs + 4.25 forty; and my football wood factor goes from balsa to sequoia.
This dynamic on the perimeter can really prevent our running game from heading into a crowded phone booth. This was a different era but a lot of people lost sight of what Paul Warfield's speed meant to opponents loading the box against Csonka, Kick and Morris. Paul Warfield may not have had killer good receiving stats in 1972 while a backup (and allegedly washed up) QB started all but 5 games. But the fear gear kept numbers preferable for the running game. We have the line and the backs but we await the speed on our perimeter to complete our gridiron chess table.
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2nd rounder at best.
they'll be so many teams with their napkins tucked into their shirts feasting on the fat defensive stock in the first that you might only see 3 WRs go in the first.
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I would honestly not mind going NT - OLB - ILB with the first 3 picks. Finish this defense off and grab a TE/WR in the 3-4
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Man, I hope we take 2 proven football players in the 1st, and leave the workout warriors till later in the draft.
Man, I hope we take 2 proven football players in the 1st, and leave the workout warriors till later in the draft.
Understood. BUT, what if an underclassman is just starting to play some really good football on top of acing the fitness test while sporting the ideal height/weight for his position? In this case, the kid's father played WR for the Detroit Lions back in the day so there's an inherited trait here. There's some good football on film with this guy especially if you've read/heard Mike Mayock, Greg Cosell and others that have watched enough of him to share their opinions.
This isn't a lot different than the Clay Matthews choice Green Bay felt compelled to make not too long ago. He never quite put together the type of season in college he was capable of at the NFL level. NFL football was in the bloodlines dating all the way back to his grandfather (Clay Sr). Green Bay's FO realized they weren't drafting rear view mirror - they were drafting best football projected ahead. There was some exciting football on tape from Clay to make certain someone was going to bet on his pedigree.
This is where we hope our front office does it's due diligence dotting the i's and crossing the t's in their research.
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
Perriman has the one issue you don't want as a WR - THE DROPS
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Man, I hope we take 2 proven football players in the 1st, and leave the workout warriors till later in the draft.
Understood. BUT, what if an underclassman is just starting to play some really good football on top of acing the fitness test while sporting the ideal height/weight for his position? In this case, the kid's father played WR for the Detroit Lions back in the day so there's an inherited trait here. There's some good football on film with this guy especially if you've read/heard Mike Mayock, Greg Cosell and others that have watched enough of him to share their opinions.
This isn't a lot different than the Clay Matthews choice Green Bay felt compelled to make not too long ago. He never quite put together the type of season in college he was capable of at the NFL level. NFL football was in the bloodlines dating all the way back to his grandfather (Clay Sr). Green Bay's FO realized they weren't drafting rear view mirror - they were drafting best football projected ahead. There was some exciting football on tape from Clay to make certain someone was going to bet on his pedigree.
This is where we hope our front office does it's due diligence dotting the i's and crossing the t's in their research.
Understood. BUT, what if an underclassman is just starting to play some really good football on top of acing the fitness test while sporting the ideal height/weight for his position? In this case, the kid's father played WR for the Detroit Lions back in the day so there's an inherited trait here. There's some good football on film with this guy especially if you've read/heard Mike Mayock, Greg Cosell and others that have watched enough of him to share their opinions.
This isn't a lot different than the Clay Matthews choice Green Bay felt compelled to make not too long ago. He never quite put together the type of season in college he was capable of at the NFL level. NFL football was in the bloodlines dating all the way back to his grandfather (Clay Sr). Green Bay's FO realized they weren't drafting rear view mirror - they were drafting best football projected ahead. There was some exciting football on tape from Clay to make certain someone was going to bet on his pedigree.
This is where we hope our front office does it's due diligence dotting the i's and crossing the t's in their research.
I'm just so very weary of "potential" taken in the 1st round < insert Mingo here > but yea, I just want them to hit on every player this year, especially in round 1.
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2nd rounder at best.
they'll be so many teams with their napkins tucked into their shirts feasting on the fat defensive stock in the first that you might only see 3 WRs go in the first.
2nd rounder at best.
they'll be so many teams with their napkins tucked into their shirts feasting on the fat defensive stock in the first that you might only see 3 WRs go in the first.
That would be awesome Mik because I really want Shelton at #12 and I'm torn between a few guys at #19. I was hoping this kid would fly under the radar to make him available for round 2. Unfortunately, I'm seeing stuff like this out there:
Central Florida receiver Breshad Perriman is bigger than his father. And it turns out he's a lot faster too.Perriman, the son of former Lions receiver Brett Perriman, blew away the 40-yard dash at UCF's pro day earlier in the week. The 6-foot-2, 212-pounder was clocked unofficially anywhere from 4.22 to 4.27 seconds according to the school.He was clocked at 4.25 seconds by NFL Network's Mike Mayock. He was clocked at an inhuman 4.15 seconds by one NFL scout, according to Yahoo!.What does that mean? It means Perriman is one of the fastest NFL draft prospects ever.
Former East Carolina tailback Chris Johnson set the combine record in 2008 with a 40-yard dash time of 4.24 seconds. Former Western Kentucky receiver Rondel Menendez also ran a 4.24 in 1999, the first year of partial electronic timing. Pro day 40s are hand timed, which are far more inaccurate than the combine's electronic results. Still, there's no disputing Perriman's time was among the fastest of all time. And Detroit Lions scouts seemed impressed, to say the least. In this video provided by UCF, Detroit's direct of college scouting, Scott McEwen, and assistant director Lance Newmark (in white) are seen reacting to Perriman's 40.
Perriman, who caught 50 passes for 1,044 yards as a junior last year, is rocketing up draft boards. Once considered a mid-round pick, he's now firmly a first-rounder according to ESPN's Mel Kiper Jr. Kiper said on a conference call Thursday that Perriman could go anywhere from 18th to 32nd. Detroit is on the board at 23, though it would be a surprise if it took Perriman.The Lions say they don't draft according to need, so anything is possible, but a defensive tackle or offensive lineman are much better bets at that spot.But they do have a need for a third receiver behind Calvin Johnson and Golden Tate, and it wouldn't be a stretch for them to add another Perriman -- if he's even around.
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Understood. BUT, what if an underclassman is just starting to play some really good football on top of acing the fitness test while sporting the ideal height/weight for his position? In this case, the kid's father played WR for the Detroit Lions back in the day so there's an inherited trait here. There's some good football on film with this guy especially if you've read/heard Mike Mayock, Greg Cosell and others that have watched enough of him to share their opinions.
This isn't a lot different than the Clay Matthews choice Green Bay felt compelled to make not too long ago. He never quite put together the type of season in college he was capable of at the NFL level. NFL football was in the bloodlines dating all the way back to his grandfather (Clay Sr). Green Bay's FO realized they weren't drafting rear view mirror - they were drafting best football projected ahead. There was some exciting football on tape from Clay to make certain someone was going to bet on his pedigree.
This is where we hope our front office does it's due diligence dotting the i's and crossing the t's in their research.
I'm just so very weary of "potential" taken in the 1st round < insert Mingo here > but yea, I just want them to hit on every player this year, especially in round 1.
I'm just so very weary of "potential" taken in the 1st round < insert Mingo here > but yea, I just want them to hit on every player this year, especially in round 1.
Understand your concern and respect it. That said, Perriman scored 9 TDs and averaged over 20 yards a catch so there's some carry over to the field with this guy. With Mingo, it felt more like hoping things could carry over to the field.
I don't even know if our WR Corps as a unit tallied 9 TD receptions in 16 games. This guy accomplished that with a year of eligibility remaining before deciding to enter the upcoming draft. This feels like the perfect time to draft a kid like this. I just didn't want it to be in round 1...
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If you want another Greg Little on this football team, go ahead and draft Perriman. This guy does good things WHEN he catches the football but he's got the drops and runs terrible routes. Watch the tape, it doesn't lie.
3rd round or later sure but the thought of taking him in the 1st round makes me madder than Manziel. I couldn't be more against the dude that early.
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Perriman has the one issue you don't want as a WR - THE DROPS
Perriman has the one issue you don't want as a WR - THE DROPS
2nd issue.. First 5 yard contact with defender. Can't run 4.25 laying on your ass..
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The only thing that scares me about Perrimen is his concentration. There were more than a couple times he had some dead-to-rights drops on easy catches.
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I think the one receiver in this draft that's getting vastly underrated is Nelson Algholor. In the right system he's a candidate for ROY
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If you want another Greg Little on this football team, go ahead and draft Perriman. This guy does good things WHEN he catches the football but he's got the drops and runs terrible routes. Watch the tape, it doesn't lie.
3rd round or later sure but the thought of taking him in the 1st round makes me madder than Manziel. I couldn't be more against the dude that early.
If you want another Greg Little on this football team, go ahead and draft Perriman. This guy does good things WHEN he catches the football but he's got the drops and runs terrible routes. Watch the tape, it doesn't lie.
3rd round or later sure but the thought of taking him in the 1st round makes me madder than Manziel. I couldn't be more against the dude that early.
Again, this is my very first line of this entire thread: So much for me thinking we can snag Perriman in round 2. I never said I wanted him at 12 or 19. Not-a-once. I was just disappointed he won't be on our door in round 2.
Anyway, here's what NFL Draft Analyst Mike Mayock had to say about him:
The hype behind former UCF wide receiver Breshad Perriman is growing.
It started with Mel Kiper, Jr. projecting Perriman No. 15 overall in his latest mock draft. It continued Monday when NFL Network lead draft analyst Mike Mayock discussed the potential for the 6-foot-3, 215-pound wide receiver.
"I put the Perriman tape on about three weeks ago and I almost fell over," Mayock said in his pre-NFL Scouting Combine conference call Monday. "I had a bunch of people tell me he didn't have good hands, and boy, do I disagree with that, even though he's got more drops than he should. There's kind of a way to interpret that. A wide receiver who has too many drops should have bad hands, right?
"Well, I looked at his hands and say he makes acrobatic catches, he makes high-point catches, he makes contested catches, however, once in a while he drops an easy ball, but I think he's a natural hands catcher."
Could Greg Little separate? No. Could Little catch the ball in traffic? No. Could Little ever jump up and catch the ball between defenders? Seldom.
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If you want another Greg Little on this football team, go ahead and draft Perriman. This guy does good things WHEN he catches the football but he's got the drops and runs terrible routes. Watch the tape, it doesn't lie.
3rd round or later sure but the thought of taking him in the 1st round makes me madder than Manziel. I couldn't be more against the dude that early.
Again, this is my very first line of this entire thread: So much for me thinking we can snag Perriman in round 2. I never said I wanted him at 12 or 19. Not-a-once. I was just disappointed he won't be on our door in round 2.
Anyway, here's what NFL Draft Analyst Mike Mayock had to say about him:
The hype behind former UCF wide receiver Breshad Perriman is growing.
It started with Mel Kiper, Jr. projecting Perriman No. 15 overall in his latest mock draft. It continued Monday when NFL Network lead draft analyst Mike Mayock discussed the potential for the 6-foot-3, 215-pound wide receiver.
"I put the Perriman tape on about three weeks ago and I almost fell over," Mayock said in his pre-NFL Scouting Combine conference call Monday. "I had a bunch of people tell me he didn't have good hands, and boy, do I disagree with that, even though he's got more drops than he should. There's kind of a way to interpret that. A wide receiver who has too many drops should have bad hands, right?
"Well, I looked at his hands and say he makes acrobatic catches, he makes high-point catches, he makes contested catches, however, once in a while he drops an easy ball, but I think he's a natural hands catcher."
Could Greg Little separate? No. Could Little catch the ball in traffic? No. Could Little ever jump up and catch the ball between defenders? Seldom.
Again, this is my very first line of this entire thread: So much for me thinking we can snag Perriman in round 2. I never said I wanted him at 12 or 19. Not-a-once. I was just disappointed he won't be on our door in round 2.
Anyway, here's what NFL Draft Analyst Mike Mayock had to say about him:
The hype behind former UCF wide receiver Breshad Perriman is growing.
It started with Mel Kiper, Jr. projecting Perriman No. 15 overall in his latest mock draft. It continued Monday when NFL Network lead draft analyst Mike Mayock discussed the potential for the 6-foot-3, 215-pound wide receiver.
"I put the Perriman tape on about three weeks ago and I almost fell over," Mayock said in his pre-NFL Scouting Combine conference call Monday. "I had a bunch of people tell me he didn't have good hands, and boy, do I disagree with that, even though he's got more drops than he should. There's kind of a way to interpret that. A wide receiver who has too many drops should have bad hands, right?
"Well, I looked at his hands and say he makes acrobatic catches, he makes high-point catches, he makes contested catches, however, once in a while he drops an easy ball, but I think he's a natural hands catcher."
Could Greg Little separate? No. Could Little catch the ball in traffic? No. Could Little ever jump up and catch the ball between defenders? Seldom.
I hear ya, I'm not saying you did but just speaking in general. I'm just commenting on the fact like this notes that some people see him as high as a mid first round pick which is incredible.
Actually, Greg Little was good at making tough plays and catches, it was the ones he should have caught he dropped all the time. this guy reminds me so much of him it's scary. There's 9 WR's in this class I'd take ahead of him in a heartbeat, I just hope we dodge him completely.
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Again, this is my very first line of this entire thread: So much for me thinking we can snag Perriman in round 2. I never said I wanted him at 12 or 19. Not-a-once. I was just disappointed he won't be on our door in round 2.
Anyway, here's what NFL Draft Analyst Mike Mayock had to say about him:
The hype behind former UCF wide receiver Breshad Perriman is growing.
It started with Mel Kiper, Jr. projecting Perriman No. 15 overall in his latest mock draft. It continued Monday when NFL Network lead draft analyst Mike Mayock discussed the potential for the 6-foot-3, 215-pound wide receiver.
"I put the Perriman tape on about three weeks ago and I almost fell over," Mayock said in his pre-NFL Scouting Combine conference call Monday. "I had a bunch of people tell me he didn't have good hands, and boy, do I disagree with that, even though he's got more drops than he should. There's kind of a way to interpret that. A wide receiver who has too many drops should have bad hands, right?
"Well, I looked at his hands and say he makes acrobatic catches, he makes high-point catches, he makes contested catches, however, once in a while he drops an easy ball, but I think he's a natural hands catcher."
Could Greg Little separate? No. Could Little catch the ball in traffic? No. Could Little ever jump up and catch the ball between defenders? Seldom.
I hear ya, I'm not saying you did but just speaking in general. I'm just commenting on the fact like this notes that some people see him as high as a mid first round pick which is incredible.
Actually, Greg Little was good at making tough plays and catches, it was the ones he should have caught he dropped all the time. this guy reminds me so much of him it's scary. There's 9 WR's in this class I'd take ahead of him in a heartbeat, I just hope we dodge him completely.
Actually, Greg Little was good at making tough plays and catches, it was the ones he should have caught he dropped all the time.
That's how I remember Little as well...
As for Perriman... Just can't get all that excited over a hand timed 40. There's a reason scouts clocked the same run anywhere from 4.19 to 4.27. Even the high end is probably up to a tenth too low. Plus I've yet to see his shuttle and 3-cone times
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