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Roger Goodell: We take Browns texting "VERY SERIOUSLY"

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  • B BaconHound

    @mudfly said:

    In my mind the text was innocent enough and not the same as...say....a phone call. With 2 way communication and intent.

    No...I see a text as more of an email...or message....that could just be a normal memo type of communication...

    Ima keep harping on it......and it doesn't eliminate Farmer from all the liability here......but the RULES are no phones on the sidelines....and it wasn't Farmer who was on the side line using his phone.....

    and Im also gonna guess that, along with his expectation that Shanny's phone was off, Farmer also never expected his Offensive Coordinator to snitch his team out to the press and bring all this down on his own players, co workers and boss....

    Has any coach EVER done this to his own team????

    ya think ANY NFL coach would NOT snitch his team out??......Its aginst

    That's where we will agree to disagree ๐Ÿ™‚

    I'm going to hold final judgment out until the Browns receive their penalty but if it is as severe as some are reporting I won't care about Farmer's intent, Shanahan's morals (or lack there of) or whether or not the Patriots cheat. I'll care about what our GM knowingly, or for being inept, cost the franchise.

    miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on
    #93

    @baconhound said:

    That's where we will agree to disagree ๐Ÿ™‚

    I'm going to hold final judgment out until the Browns receive their penalty but if it is as severe as some are reporting I won't care about Farmer's intent, Shanahan's morals (or lack there of) or whether or not the Patriots cheat. I'll care about what our GM knowingly, or for being inept, cost the franchise.

    man, you are one hardass. i hope you never fuck up on your job and have a boss as prick-headed as you.

    god bless your wife and kids. geeez.

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  • MudflyM Mudfly

    Here's another one where the head coach made a call to team officials from the sideline......$25,000 fine.....

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2281519

    So, there it is again....the precedent has been established.....

    B BaconHound wrote on
    #94

    @mudfly said:

    Here's another one where the head coach made a call to team officials from the sideline......$25,000 fine.....

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2281519

    So, there it is again....the precedent has been established.....

    I think it more closely resembles SpyGate which is what makes me nervous.

  • miktoxicM miktoxic

    @baconhound said:

    That's where we will agree to disagree ๐Ÿ™‚

    I'm going to hold final judgment out until the Browns receive their penalty but if it is as severe as some are reporting I won't care about Farmer's intent, Shanahan's morals (or lack there of) or whether or not the Patriots cheat. I'll care about what our GM knowingly, or for being inept, cost the franchise.

    man, you are one hardass. i hope you never fuck up on your job and have a boss as prick-headed as you.

    god bless your wife and kids. geeez.

    B BaconHound wrote on
    #95

    @miktoxic said:

    man, you are one hardass. i hope you never fuck up on your job and have a boss as prick-headed as you.

    god bless your wife and kids. geeez.

    Mik I'm as flawed as the next guy. I also think all things aren't equal. If the guy forgets my sweet n sour sauce at McDonald's that's different then a guy in charge of a $100 million dollar payroll costing that team possible greatness. With the ascension to GM there are many more responsibilities and consequences.

    Oh and rest easy no second generation bacons running wild out there.

  • W Westside Steve wrote on
    #96

    Well here's to me being shocked and disgusted if any of these chicken shit offences cost anybody a first round pick. inflate gate noise gate text gate not enough toilet paper in the mens shitter gate...

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  • ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on
    #97

    A first this year and 2nd next year is the word.

    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
    tiamat63T Riffer XR T 3 Replies
  • miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on
    #98

    the nfl's way of leveling the playing field considering we have 10 picks.

    expect serious hate mail goodell.

  • ballpeenB ballpeen

    A first this year and 2nd next year is the word.

    tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on
    #99

    @ballpeen said:

    A first this year and 2nd next year is the word.

    From where are you hearing?

    Also, fuck that. It will be appealed immediately and Haslam better be up Goodell's ass.

  • Opal312O Opal312 wrote on
    #100

    And what do you bet that Deflate-gate won't be solved until after the draft. Its been three months investigating how the air got deflated in the football before the game. By now they could have found Jimmy Hoffa.

    DAMN THE TORPEDOES! FULL SPEED AHEAD!
  • ballpeenB ballpeen

    A first this year and 2nd next year is the word.

    Riffer XR Riffer X wrote on
    #101

    @ballpeen said:

    A first this year and 2nd next year is the word.

    Where you hearing that Russ?

    Is a pig's ass pork?
  • ballpeenB ballpeen

    A first this year and 2nd next year is the word.

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on
    #102

    @ballpeen said:

    A first this year and 2nd next year is the word.

    That would be the pro equivalent of the SMU death penalty. They might as well close down the franchise rather than execute it on the rack.

  • P paul warfield wrote on
    #103

    VesnaKociper said:

    IF the Browns lost a first round pick, considering the money we would save and the high probability of a shit pick, wouldn't that actually be a GOOD thing?

    With the CBA of 2011 rookie wages are scaled back, but it could be good as you speculate.

  • L LondonBrown wrote on
    #104

    @AdamSchefter ยท 44s
    Adam Schefter@AdamSchefter
    Browns GM Ray Farmer also expected to be suspended for Text-gate role but Cleveland is not expected to lose a draft pick, per sources.
    Mar 30, 2015 419 92View on X


    44 seconds ago
    Adam Schefter@AdamSchefter
    Browns GM Ray Farmer also expected to be suspended for Text-gate role but Cleveland is not expected to lose a draft pick, per sources.
    Mar 30, 2015 419 92View on X



    Browns GM Ray Farmer also expected to be suspended for Text-gate role but Cleveland is not expected to lose a draft pick, per sources.


    Z 1 Reply
  • miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on
    #105

    maybe farmer won't be allowed in the draft room come draft nite (OMG!!!!!!! lol).

    could farmer text pettine with his picks?

    HA!

  • C cuwoohio wrote on
    #106

    I hope Schefter's sources are right. Add a fine for Farmer and that's a fit punishment.

  • L LondonBrown

    @AdamSchefter ยท 44s
    Adam Schefter@AdamSchefter
    Browns GM Ray Farmer also expected to be suspended for Text-gate role but Cleveland is not expected to lose a draft pick, per sources.
    Mar 30, 2015 419 92View on X


    44 seconds ago
    Adam Schefter@AdamSchefter
    Browns GM Ray Farmer also expected to be suspended for Text-gate role but Cleveland is not expected to lose a draft pick, per sources.
    Mar 30, 2015 419 92View on X



    Browns GM Ray Farmer also expected to be suspended for Text-gate role but Cleveland is not expected to lose a draft pick, per sources.


    Z Zombo wrote on
    #107

    @londonbrown said:

    Browns GM Ray Farmer also expected to be suspended for Text-gate role but Cleveland is not expected to lose a draft pick, per sources.

    And that's the way it should be. If I recall, Farmer has a pretty experienced right-hand man/mentor he brought over from KC.

    Zombo

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  • WalterWhiteW WalterWhite wrote on
    #108

    I wonder how this effects the teams draft plans

  • Z Zombo

    @londonbrown said:

    Browns GM Ray Farmer also expected to be suspended for Text-gate role but Cleveland is not expected to lose a draft pick, per sources.

    And that's the way it should be. If I recall, Farmer has a pretty experienced right-hand man/mentor he brought over from KC.

    Zombo

    Z Zombo wrote on
    #109

    Zombo said:

    And that's the way it should be. If I recall, Farmer has a pretty experienced right-hand man/mentor he brought over from KC.

    Zombo

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  • D BoneD D Bone wrote on
    #110

    Yep, the NFL can still 'send a message' by coming down hard on the person, and not the team. Fine and suspended him, I'm good with that.

  • L LondonBrown wrote on
    #111

    Would a suspension mean he isn't in the war room come the draft....?

  • L LondonBrown

    Would a suspension mean he isn't in the war room come the draft....?

    D BoneD D Bone wrote on
    #112

    @londonbrown said:

    Would a suspension mean he isn't in the war room come the draft....?

    Depends on when the suspension starts...........

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