Jonathan Paul Manziel
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Now we are 90% done with Manziel...
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Now we are 90% done with Manziel...
Now we are 90% done with Manziel...
yep, saw that interview "live" on Mike and Mike.
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Now we are 90% done with Manziel...
Now we are 90% done with Manziel...
well.....at least according to Mortensen....
I listened to this too and basically heard him say "he thinks" the Browns are done with him.....
Really....I dont hear anything new here..... just him speculating that the Browns aren't waiting on Johnny and them saying they can't count on him....(which is a lot different than them being "done" with him).....
If he isnt traded, he will be in camp and get every chance to be the man....guaranteed......But, thats it....Browns just aren't waiting another year to see if he figures it out....
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Now we are 90% done with Manziel...
well.....at least according to Mortensen....
I listened to this too and basically heard him say "he thinks" the Browns are done with him.....
Really....I dont hear anything new here..... just him speculating that the Browns aren't waiting on Johnny and them saying they can't count on him....(which is a lot different than them being "done" with him).....
If he isnt traded, he will be in camp and get every chance to be the man....guaranteed......But, thats it....Browns just aren't waiting another year to see if he figures it out....
well.....at least according to Mortensen....
I listened to this too and basically heard him say "he thinks" the Browns are done with him.....
Really....I dont hear anything new here..... just him speculating that the Browns aren't waiting on Johnny and them saying they can't count on him....(which is a lot different than them being "done" with him).....
If he isnt traded, he will be in camp and get every chance to be the man....guaranteed......But, thats it....Browns just aren't waiting another year to see if he figures it out....
Mudfly-Any bets on Grayson or Petty in Round 2 or 3?
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Now we are 90% done with Manziel...
well.....at least according to Mortensen....
I listened to this too and basically heard him say "he thinks" the Browns are done with him.....
Really....I dont hear anything new here..... just him speculating that the Browns aren't waiting on Johnny and them saying they can't count on him....(which is a lot different than them being "done" with him).....
If he isnt traded, he will be in camp and get every chance to be the man....guaranteed......But, thats it....Browns just aren't waiting another year to see if he figures it out....
...he will be in camp and get every chance to be the man....guaranteed
It seems like this is the way of the Browns now regardless of name, status, draft round, contract - if you're in camp, you have a chance to be the starter if you're the best guy. See K'Waun Williams > Gilbert, Crowell > Tate, Gabriel > Burleson. It'll be no different for McCown, Manziel, Lewis, Shaw, and whoever else we pick up along the way.
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well.....at least according to Mortensen....
I listened to this too and basically heard him say "he thinks" the Browns are done with him.....
Really....I dont hear anything new here..... just him speculating that the Browns aren't waiting on Johnny and them saying they can't count on him....(which is a lot different than them being "done" with him).....
If he isnt traded, he will be in camp and get every chance to be the man....guaranteed......But, thats it....Browns just aren't waiting another year to see if he figures it out....
Mudfly-Any bets on Grayson or Petty in Round 2 or 3?
Mudfly-Any bets on Grayson or Petty in Round 2 or 3?
No bets, no......honestly dont think we'll pick one early and im not high on any of the QB's(are the Browns?...dunno).....maybe one in the 3rd-4th?.....but, dont think they are enamored enough with the selection to go 1st or 2nd....Id say Petty, if anybody...
It seems like this is the way of the Browns now regardless of name, status, draft round, contract - if you're in camp, you have a chance to be the starter if you're the best guy. See K'Waun Williams > Gilbert, Crowell > Tate, Gabriel > Burleson. It'll be no different for McCown, Manziel, Lewis, Shaw, and whoever else we pick up along the way.
Yep.....one of the things I like best about Pettine and Farmer....best players go, no matter what.....and good players sit, when they dont pull their weight at practice....
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Now we are 90% done with Manziel...
well.....at least according to Mortensen....
I listened to this too and basically heard him say "he thinks" the Browns are done with him.....
Really....I dont hear anything new here..... just him speculating that the Browns aren't waiting on Johnny and them saying they can't count on him....(which is a lot different than them being "done" with him).....
If he isnt traded, he will be in camp and get every chance to be the man....guaranteed......But, thats it....Browns just aren't waiting another year to see if he figures it out....
well.....at least according to Mortensen....
I see Mort more as being credible than any of the "get it first, worry about right later" crowd like Shefter or MKC. Mort's just a little more old school, multiple source, kinda guy...
Mudfly-Any bets on Grayson or Petty in Round 2 or 3?
Bold Prediction: We'll trade up in the 3rd to take Petty.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Seems we need a "bold draft predictions" thread.
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well.....at least according to Mortensen....
I see Mort more as being credible than any of the "get it first, worry about right later" crowd like Shefter or MKC. Mort's just a little more old school, multiple source, kinda guy...
Mudfly-Any bets on Grayson or Petty in Round 2 or 3?
Bold Prediction: We'll trade up in the 3rd to take Petty.
I see Mort more as being credible than any of the "get it first, worry about right later" crowd like Shefter or MKC. Mort's just a little more old school, multiple source, kinda guy...
Bold Prediction: We'll trade up in the 3rd to take Petty.
I agree 100% that Mort is much more credible than the rest.......but feel the need to point out it's only an opinion piece and not the Browns who are saying this......which the original comment(and link) kind of suggest.....
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mortensen is just another blowhard from the network that gives no respect to the browns. none. zilch. nadda.
fuck him, wilbon, skip bayless, greenberg and golic............bunch a posers.
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mortensen is just another blowhard from the network that gives no respect to the browns. none. zilch. nadda.
fuck him, wilbon, skip bayless, greenberg and golic............bunch a posers.
mortensen is just another blowhard from the network that gives no respect to the browns. none. zilch. nadda.
fuck him, wilbon, skip bayless, greenberg and golic............bunch a posers.
Hi. Everyone who disagrees with you is either a poser or moron. You must be one smart motherfucker. The Browns should hire you as their General Manager being you know everything..
As a side note, anyone on this board who thinks Manzel is going to be a good nfl Qb is dilusional.
Rural Meyers can suck my smelly balls.
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To ALL the speculating media, about all things being speculated, I say......"We'll see!"
I accept nothing they spew until things become official.
The media has ZERO credibility with me. NONE of 'em.
Mike
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mortensen is just another blowhard from the network that gives no respect to the browns. none. zilch. nadda.
fuck him, wilbon, skip bayless, greenberg and golic............bunch a posers.
fuck... wilbon...
Mikey has been seriously on our ass lately, but that'll pass as soon as his Cubbies start playing.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Mikey has been seriously on our ass lately, but that'll pass as soon as his Cubbies start playing.
he has been laughing the browns off for as many a year i can remember. and it's not like he's nice about it either. it's like he truly dislikes the franchise.
meanwhile his redskins are just as bad and the cubs are unfixable.
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I wanted to see more shaw last year. His only start was against the Ravens, and they had a pretty stout defense. He was showing some gritt and got a lot of praise from the guys in the huddle. He was just not in a great system in SC, where he had to throw the ball 30-40 times a game. With Mack back and our solid running game, he could be pretty decent. As usual though, he wont get developed properly.
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I wanted to see more shaw last year. His only start was against the Ravens, and they had a pretty stout defense. He was showing some gritt and got a lot of praise from the guys in the huddle. He was just not in a great system in SC, where he had to throw the ball 30-40 times a game. With Mack back and our solid running game, he could be pretty decent. As usual though, he wont get developed properly.
As usual though, he wont get developed properly.
at some point in one's career when does it become your responsibility to develop yourself? coaches can only do so much per season. if he wants to get better, stay at the facility until midnite watching film, hit the gym religiously and hire an outside QB coach. if you still don't get the nod myabe you just aren't up to the task of being an NFL starter?
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As usual though, he wont get developed properly.
at some point in one's career when does it become your responsibility to develop yourself? coaches can only do so much per season. if he wants to get better, stay at the facility until midnite watching film, hit the gym religiously and hire an outside QB coach. if you still don't get the nod myabe you just aren't up to the task of being an NFL starter?
at some point in one's career when does it become your responsibility to develop yourself? coaches can only do so much per season. if he wants to get better, stay at the facility until midnite watching film, hit the gym religiously and hire an outside QB coach. if you still don't get the nod myabe you just aren't up to the task of being an NFL starter?
Very True.
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