Farmer suspended first 4 games of season, fined $250k
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Seriously? Sammy fucking Watkins all over again. Lock this stupid thread. But not before we take a look at the top receivers from last year's draft (in no particular order):
Beckham
Evans
Watkins
Benjamin
Matthews
Taylor Fucking Gabriel.
OK, maybe not gabriel, but the others have the potential to be game breaking receivers, and some have already shown it. Would we be a better team with one of them? Sure. Did we shit the bed by 'missing out' on Watkins? Hell no. With the trade with buffalo, we could still have had Beckham, Benjamin and Matthews. So you could *maybe* make an argument for missing out on a receiver, and many have. But singling out one of them because he was the first picked? That's bullshit - give it a rest.
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Hundreds of opportunities to be closer to Twatkins.
WSS
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It should be easy to decide on the whole Watkins thing.....
Right now today.....would ANYONE trade both the 12th and 19th picks for him (oh yeah, and our 4th rounder too)???.....(cause thats a little LESS than we got)....
Heck, Id rather have Kevin White and Im still undecided if Id even spend #12 alone on him.....
so.....to answer my own question.....hell no!!!!
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HELL NO !!!
(and yet again, Steve's ZiLLOW post would have had me spitting my coffee all over my keyboard,
but I don't have cofffee on the Brownsboard anymore)
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no,no,no...
Here is what I did, BM, now read it this time, because Aaron Rodgers has none
of the below weaknesses.
WEAKNESSES: Only average height with a leaner than ideal build, lacking elite muscle definition or strength. Lacks elite speed and more of a glider. Not overly physical and won't break many tackles.
Hands are steady, but he'll have his share of focus drops, especially when he hears footsteps - a few botched returns on his resume. Room to improve his reliability on 50/50 passes. Minor durability concerns. Character needs investigated - arrested in May 2012 on drug-related charges.
COMPARES TO: Mix of Torrey Smith (Ravens) and Percy Harvin (Seahawks) - Watkins has the size and vertical ability of Smith and the acceleration, toughness and multiple gears like Harvin.
--Dane Brugler (1/5/13)
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It should be easy to decide on the whole Watkins thing.....
Right now today.....would ANYONE trade both the 12th and 19th picks for him (oh yeah, and our 4th rounder too)???.....(cause thats a little LESS than we got)....
Heck, Id rather have Kevin White and Im still undecided if Id even spend #12 alone on him.....
so.....to answer my own question.....hell no!!!!
Watkins.....
Right now ....would ANYONE trade both the 12th and 19th and our 4th rounder too...??
.....hell no!!!!
HELL NO !!!
no,no,no...
exactly....
here's a well put together comparison between Watkins and Cooper, which puts Cooper ahead as the better overall prospect.....
http://withthefirstpick.com/2015/03/29/2015-nfl-prospect-comparisons-amari-cooper-vs-sammy-watkins/
yet, I'll bet no one offers 2 firsts for Cooper.......(at least it wont be us)......
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That is excellent ! I'm even more impressed by Cooper now.
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I don't even understand the point you're trying to illustrate, what does playing in the snow have to do with us passing on Watkins or his long term potential?
You'll be happier with whoever we draft at wr this year? What kind of stupid angle are you trying to work with that statement? You have no idea who/when we'll draft a wr, what if we don't draft a guy until the 2nd or 3rd round. Do you realize that last year's wr class was significantly stronger? Do you realize there isn't a wr as good as Watkins in this entire draft in all likelihood? There's nothing we can do about missing out on Watkins, all we can do is move forward. But acting like it wasn't a mistake is just ridiculous. -BM-
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A. Cleveland is in Ohio, that's N. United States. It's snows here. And, it was fun to point out, that as I remember it, Watkins
was joking around about scary snowstorms, and playing in the snow. The point is, stop your stupid bitching over watkins.
Newsflash - he isn't with the Browns. You would do better for yourself, if you went over to the boofalo forum somewhere,
and gloated endlessly. At least you would be being a positive.
We don't know if it was a mistake, suppose the Browns go to the playoffs, and Manziel and Gilbert had
a large part of that? Then will you shut up with the watkins crap? Watkins hasn't been around long enough to say
there is no wr in this draft that can match or surpass his output this past year. Why not just run with what you
blabbered? "All we can do is move forward". Then stick a cork in it about Watkins blah blah blah, and move on already.
Oh, and read about Watkin's weaknesses back then:
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1850743/sammy-watkins
WEAKNESSES: Only average height with a leaner than ideal build, lacking elite muscle definition or strength. Lacks elite speed and more of a glider. Not overly physical and won't break many tackles.
Hands are steady, but he'll have his share of focus drops, especially when he hears footsteps - a few botched returns on his resume. Room to improve his reliability on 50/50 passes. Minor durability concerns. Character needs investigated - arrested in May 2012 on drug-related charges.
COMPARES TO: Mix of Torrey Smith (Ravens) and Percy Harvin (Seahawks) - Watkins has the size and vertical ability of Smith and the acceleration, toughness and multiple gears like Harvin.
--Dane Brugler (1/5/13)
WEAKNESSES: Only average height with a leaner than ideal build, lacking elite muscle definition or strength. Lacks elite speed and more of a glider. Not overly physical and won't break many tackles.
Hands are steady, but he'll have his share of focus drops, especially when he hears footsteps - a few botched returns on his resume. Room to improve his reliability on 50/50 passes. Minor durability concerns. Character needs investigated - arrested in May 2012 on drug-related charges.
COMPARES TO: Mix of Torrey Smith (Ravens) and Percy Harvin (Seahawks) - Watkins has the size and vertical ability of Smith and the acceleration, toughness and multiple gears like Harvin.
--Dane Brugler (1/5/13)
OK, let's assume Watkins turns out Torry Smith or Percy Harvin good. (I doubt he's going to be Megatron good) Anyone going to offer a first and a fourth for those two? And you could say the Bills screwed up- could have stood pat taken Odell Beckham, and giving up nothing. (Of course the Browns made the same mistake). BUT Beckham helped the Giants to a not so stellar 6-10 record, the same way Gordon in his league leading year had the Browns at 4-12. So maybe Farmer is right having a stud WR is only a part of the puzzle.
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I'm reconsidering my welcome... and I'm one who thinks Watkins will ultimately emerge as the best WR in the class of 2014.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
I'm reconsidering my welcome... and I'm one who thinks Watkins will ultimately emerge as the best WR in the class of 2014.
I'm reconsidering my welcome... and I'm one who thinks Watkins will ultimately emerge as the best WR in the class of 2014.
Now, they are reporting that he had hip surgery a couple months ago......(apparently it was injured against the Browns)...
No details on what the injury was or the severity of it....but, I dunno, a bad hip is probably not a good thing for a speedster....
hoping for his sake it's minor and he gets his game on track this season
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