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20 Ideas The US Needs To Steal From The Rest Of The World

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  • @mld-woody said:

    It is much easier to teach an engineer/STEM major business then teach a business major math/quantitative skills/etc)

    I'm not an English major but did you really just write this sentence, read it, think "yeah that makes sense," and then post it??

    Holy fuck.

    @legacy-fan said:

    I'm not an English major but did you really just write this sentence, read it, think "yeah that makes sense," and then post it??

    Holy fuck.

    Pretty sure he only wrote it and posted it

  • @mld-woody said:

    It is much easier to teach an engineer/STEM major business then teach a business major math/quantitative skills/etc)

    I'm not an English major but did you really just write this sentence, read it, think "yeah that makes sense," and then post it??

    Holy fuck.

    @legacy-fan said:

    I'm not an English major but did you really just write this sentence, read it, think "yeah that makes sense," and then post it??

    Holy fuck.

    Than not then, my apologies.

    It is easier to teach STEM majors business (business skills), than to teach non STEM majors quantitative skills....

    Was it really that hard to understand? Lol

    Outside of the then/than typo, it makes perfect sense to me. Maybe it involves college talk with the major phrasing.

  • Tbh woody, I didn't get what you were saying. I do now.

  • The typo wasn't a problem - I didn't even notice and still don't care.

    "Business majors can't learn math/ quantitative skills"

    What is it you think a CPA does all day?

  • But please, continue your arrogant douche thing.

  • The typo wasn't a problem - I didn't even notice and still don't care.

    "Business majors can't learn math/ quantitative skills"

    What is it you think a CPA does all day?

    @legacy-fan said:

    The typo wasn't a problem - I didn't even notice and still don't care.

    "Business majors can't learn math/ quantitative skills"

    What is it you think a CPA does all day?

    I never said can't.

    Consulting firms, trading firms, etc, recruited our engineering department. Not for engineering skills, but quantitative skills. They could fill in the gaps in business knowledge with on the job training.

    I'm saying that, it is easier to do this than take your average BBA and teach them the engineering skills or technical skills.

    I'm just relaying what I've heard from recruiters and others. I'm not saying smart business majors don't exist, I'm not saying they aren't good at math, etc etc etc.

  • No you're right. You never said can't. But it's what you meant.

    I think you're thinking about an online business administration degree which is the business/Econ equivalent of a construction management degree in the engineering world.

    Apples / oranges.

  • No you're right. You never said can't. But it's what you meant.

    I think you're thinking about an online business administration degree which is the business/Econ equivalent of a construction management degree in the engineering world.

    Apples / oranges.

    @legacy-fan said:

    No you're right. You never said can't. But it's what you meant.

    I think you're thinking about an online business administration degree which is the business/Econ equivalent of a construction management degree in the engineering world.

    Apples / oranges.

    Well thank you for telling me what I meant. Clearly you would know more about what kind of business jobs engineering majors get recruited for than the engineering major that graduated last summer...and attended multiple company info sessions...and a career fair with 300 companies...

  • So now it's who gets hired by what jobs blah, zzzzzz......

    Keep editing and revising your point. (You're on your 3rd if anyone wants to keep track)

    What do you want me to dispute?

  • Not to defend him but I think I understood what he meant. That is he believes it would be easier to teach math and science majors business science than vice versa.

    I think he is wrong as there are different skill sets needed to succeed in different endeavours.

    As a matter of fact Id bet theater majors would do a helluva lot better in politics then mathematicians.

    WSS

  • So now it's who gets hired by what jobs blah, zzzzzz......

    Keep editing and revising your point. (You're on your 3rd if anyone wants to keep track)

    What do you want me to dispute?

    @legacy-fan said:

    So now it's who gets hired by what jobs blah, zzzzzz......

    Keep editing and revising your point. (You're on your 3rd if anyone wants to keep track)

    What do you want me to dispute?

    What the hell are you talking about? How have i changed my point once?

    You started telling me what I thought, and what I meant, which is fucking hilarious.

    I gave you evidence why I would know what I'm talking about. I'm not backtracking in any way

  • Not to defend him but I think I understood what he meant. That is he believes it would be easier to teach math and science majors business science than vice versa.

    I think he is wrong as there are different skill sets needed to succeed in different endeavours.

    As a matter of fact Id bet theater majors would do a helluva lot better in politics then mathematicians.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Not to defend him but I think I understood what he meant. That is he believes it would be easier to teach math and science majors business science than vice versa.

    I think he is wrong as there are different skill sets needed to succeed in different endeavours.

    As a matter of fact Id bet theater majors would do a helluva lot better in politics then mathematicians.

    WSS

    Obviously there are different skill sets required for different jobs. For some business jobs you need to have soft skills (which, I mean, you need in anything), negotiating skills, etc etc. You are both taking my statement and making it more than what I said.

    STEM majors go through 4 years of high level math and science. They understand numbers. They have whatever quantitative skills, problem solving skills, etc you could need for a business major. Some companies choose to take these students, the ones that also have the interpersonal skills you may need, and mold them into the business world.

    I have not yet seen a technical company looking business majors to fill technical roles...

    Theater majors probably would do better in politics than math majors. Congrats. That really isn't at all what I'm talking about, but ok. (That opens up a whole other discussion about how I think we need more STEM majors in politics).

    Investment banking, consulting, trading, etc. All of these are traditionally pulling from the business side but they recruit engineers and other STEM majors as well. Find an engineer with interpersonal skills and a willingness to learn, and you're golden. (The stereotype of engineers being awkward and unsocial, from my time at Michigan, isn't really that true. Those kids definitely still exist, but in some majors [like comp sci] much more than others).

    So, again, from everything I have seen, read and been told, by knowledgeable people, it is easier (companies would rather) take STEM majors and teach them business skills than to take business majors and teach them "STEM" skills.

    Are we good now? Geez...

  • Let's recap:

    Woody: "it's easier to teach business to STEM majors than it is to teach math/quantitative skills to business majors"

    legacy: "that's a ridiculous statement."

    Woody: "Then/than grammar harrumph"

    Legacy: "Math & quantatative skills are predominantly what business majors are taught"

    Woody: "I graduated with an engineering degree and we are highly recruited by business firms all over. I should know- I just graduated and went to multiple company info sessions and a career fair that would make PT Barnum shit his pants"

    Legacy: "I'm not talking about career fairs. why do you insist on changing the subject about which we are disagreeing on?"

    Woody: "now you're telling me what I meant. I'm not back-tracking"

    You might make the greatest politician in the history of ever. Honestly. I don't even know how to continue.

  • You seemed to have heavily edited your own responses in your summary....

    ... fuck it dude, I don't care. It doesn't affect me (probably), and it doesn't affect you. If you don't believe me, it couldn't matter any less. I'm telling you what I've seen, what I've read, what I've been told first hand by recruiters for these companies. If you chose to not believe me, then that is your choice.

    Good day

  • You've missed the point entirely, kids meal.

    You started off botching a statement. I merely suggested you clarify.

  • Go back and reread your post I first commented on. I copied it verbatim in my summary ( the rest of *both* of our posts got some artistic license)

    I know what you were trying to say, but you didn't say it. So I commented.

  • You responded to one of my first posts with

    "Business majors can't learn math/quantitative skills".

    You put quotes around a comment to signify it was something I said, except I didn't say that at all. Then, you felt compelled to tell me what I actually meant... because apparently you knew better than I do.

    Now, after already displaying the fact you didn't know what I said or what I was talking about, you're going to tell me to go back and reread my own posts? Haha. After already taking what my comments said, and saying they meant something else? Hahaha. Right, I'm totally the one that has missed the point entirely........

    Now, for real this time. Good day.

  • You put quotes around a comment to signify it was something I said, except I didn't say that at all. Woody

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    Woody, you are singling out one way of using quotation marks. There are direct and indirect

    uses of quotation marks. As in, quoting exactly what you said, that's DIRECT quoting,

    and then paraphrasing what you said, which is INDIRECT quoting. They are both valid.

    Often, when someone paraphrases what you said, (indirect quoting), they are trying to explain what

    they think you meant with the words you posted, even though you meant to say something different.

    Not always someone else's fault.

  • @mld-woody said:

    It is much easier to teach an engineer/STEM major business then teach a business major math/quantitative skills/etc)

    I'm not an English major but did you really just write this sentence, read it, think "yeah that makes sense," and then post it??

    Holy fuck.

    Nope. Here is my first response, kids meal:

    @legacy-fan said:

    MLD Woody said

    It is much easier to teach an engineer/STEM major business then teach a business major math/quantitative skills/etc)

    I'm not an English major but did you really just write this sentence, read it, think "yeah that makes sense," and then post it??

    Holy fuck.

    You still think its easier to "teach an engineer/STEM major business then teach a business major math/quantitative skills/etc"? Business majors do nothing but "math/ quantatative skills"

    *That's* what I was contesting. How are you not understanding this?

    Had you said "easier to teach an engineer/STEM major business then teach a business major *STEM*" this wouldn't have been an issue.

    But thank you for shedding light on the importance reading comprehension ought to still play in higher education.