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Browns sign TE Rob Housler.

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  • Ah! Got it! Poet got his post back.

  • Championship!

  • Looks pretty strong after the catch. Too bad catching the ball is a problem, or so they say

  • Dray, 28 yrs. old. 6'5" 250lbs. FA-2017-----Barniage, 29 yrs. old. 6' 5" 255lbs. FA-2016------Housler, 27 yrs.old 6' 5" 250lbs. FA-2016.. Compared to our WR's got to love the size. Age and Possible losing 2 to FA after next season. Yea, we may want to get a TE we can School, but it moves the need down the list to 5,6 or 7th round or draft a TE higher in 2016. Flipo has got a plan that's going to include Backs working in combos with TE's and not the old, run up the middle or Shanny's run Right..

  • Dray, 28 yrs. old. 6'5" 250lbs. FA-2017-----Barniage, 29 yrs. old. 6' 5" 255lbs. FA-2016------Housler, 27 yrs.old 6' 5" 250lbs. FA-2016.. Compared to our WR's got to love the size. Age and Possible losing 2 to FA after next season. Yea, we may want to get a TE we can School, but it moves the need down the list to 5,6 or 7th round or draft a TE higher in 2016. Flipo has got a plan that's going to include Backs working in combos with TE's and not the old, run up the middle or Shanny's run Right..

    @gumby73 said:

    Dray, 28 yrs. old. 6'5" 250lbs. FA-2017-----Barniage, 29 yrs. old. 6' 5" 255lbs. FA-2016------Housler, 27 yrs.old 6' 5" 250lbs. FA-2016.. Compared to our WR's got to love the size. Age and Possible losing 2 to FA after next season. Yea, we may want to get a TE we can School, but it moves the need down the list to 5,6 or 7th round or draft a TE higher in 2016. Flipo has got a plan that's going to include Backs working in combos with TE's and not the old, run up the middle or Shanny's run Right..

    I don't see why that would allow us to draft a tight end low, mostly because those guys probably aren't any good. No matter who we have on the roster we're going to need a superior TE.

    WSS

  • I think this allows them to not HAVE to draft a tight end if their targets aren't on the board.

    Good size and speed. not so good everywhere else. Evan Moore?

  • I think this allows them to not HAVE to draft a tight end if their targets aren't on the board.

    Good size and speed. not so good everywhere else. Evan Moore?

    @hx214 said:

    I think this allows them to not HAVE to draft a tight end if their targets aren't on the board.

    Good size and speed. not so good everywhere else. Evan Moore?

    Ya, Farmer did the same thing last year ... filling holes before the draft so that if the right guy isn't available at the right time, you don't have to make a desperation pick.

    Zombo

  • the TE class in this draft isn't all that special. besides williams there is no real 'golden ticket' to punch. i like the signing for the reasons stated above.

    draft for real need. if we can get by with these guys for a year without a huge drop off (i mean what was the TE production last year anyways?) there's always next year to draft a 'special' TE.

  • @hx214 said:

    I think this allows them to not HAVE to draft a tight end if their targets aren't on the board.

    Good size and speed. not so good everywhere else. Evan Moore?

    Ya, Farmer did the same thing last year ... filling holes before the draft so that if the right guy isn't available at the right time, you don't have to make a desperation pick.

    Zombo

    Zombo said:

    Ya, Farmer did the same thing last year ... filling holes before the draft so that if the right guy isn't available at the right time, you don't have to make a desperation pick.

    Zombo

    Yea, makes sense.

    Farmer has shown that he hates taking pass catchers WR/TEs high. Picking up Bowe/Hartline may show that he will skip WR in round one despite all the mock drafts.

    i mean....if Vince Lombardi was right, that the game is won and lost in the trenches, expect to see OL, DL taken high. not WR/TE/RBs.

  • Zombo said:

    Ya, Farmer did the same thing last year ... filling holes before the draft so that if the right guy isn't available at the right time, you don't have to make a desperation pick.

    Zombo

    Yea, makes sense.

    Farmer has shown that he hates taking pass catchers WR/TEs high. Picking up Bowe/Hartline may show that he will skip WR in round one despite all the mock drafts.

    i mean....if Vince Lombardi was right, that the game is won and lost in the trenches, expect to see OL, DL taken high. not WR/TE/RBs.

    @the-gipper said:

    Yea, makes sense.

    Farmer has shown that he hates taking pass catchers WR/TEs high. Picking up Bowe/Hartline may show that he will skip WR in round one despite all the mock drafts.

    i mean....if Vince Lombardi was right, that the game is won and lost in the trenches, expect to see OL, DL taken high. not WR/TE/RBs.

    I'm on board with that. I may be one of the few, but I don't want to see a receiver in the first
  • Kinda depends on the WR... and who else is on the board.

    I definitely do not want to see a TE in the first...

  • Kinda depends on the WR... and who else is on the board.

    I definitely do not want to see a TE in the first...

    @tour2ma said:

    Kinda depends on the WR... and who else is on the board.

    I definitely do not want to see a TE in the first...

    Sure, if it falls in your lap then it falls in your lap. Cooper and White are the only two I would even consider in the first, but they won't be there. Williams looks like the best TE, and I wouldn't touch him till mid to late second
  • I don't mind a 4.5-running, 6'5" TE. Pull down 30-40 catches, and a TD or three and that's all we need.

  • Just occurred to me that Mr. Dray might have had something to do with this recruitment...

    Connect rate was decent in 2012 and 2013 at around 75% of targets.

    Drop rate was 0.0 in 2014, 7.0 in 2013, 7.4 in 2012, but 19.2 in 2011... so there was improvement.

    At 238 lb he's going to have issue with even smaller DEs on the line, but with a head of steam as an F-back??? Maybe...

  • Like miss the hieden and Shaw days. They were Somewate realable

  • Like miss the hieden and Shaw days. They were Somewate realable

    @lbc-mike said:

    Like miss the hieden and Shaw days. They were Somewate realable

    You mean Aaron Shea?

    Ya those guys were OK as was Evan Moore, looks like we might have a three-headed monster of 6'5 guys who catch and block and won't make a lot of mistakes, but aren't game changers. Nothing wrong with that if we can run the ball the wideouts are making plays.

    Zombo

  • @lbc-mike said:

    Like miss the hieden and Shaw days. They were Somewate realable

    You mean Aaron Shea?

    Ya those guys were OK as was Evan Moore, looks like we might have a three-headed monster of 6'5 guys who catch and block and won't make a lot of mistakes, but aren't game changers. Nothing wrong with that if we can run the ball the wideouts are making plays.

    Zombo

    Zombo said:

    You mean Aaron Shea?

    Ya those guys were OK as was Evan Moore, looks like we might have a three-headed monster of 6'5 guys who catch and block and won't make a lot of mistakes, but aren't game changers. Nothing wrong with that if we can run the ball the wideouts are making plays.

    Zombo

    Too bad the criteria isn't like it used to be with the ladies. If you can find a hottie without any beers in the gut - giddyup and get after it. Now, if you need at least 12 beers to make something look attractive - you better hope your competition is the one power gluing that at the end of the night. Your buddy Flugel used to call that 12 pack love back in BC (Before Cellphones). Since 99, our front office has brought in a lot of the football version of 12 pack love.

    Jim Dray was a pleasant surprise in the hands department. However, in a world of yards after the catch - that poor guy looked like he was stranded in park on a busy highway.

    I'm pretty happy about our FA WRs and what Hawkins can do out of the slot. That should help us get a little more balance from the passing game. I'd still like us to add the dynamic of 1 acceleration gear on the perimeter to help get our other Receivers more favorable matchups. Like I heard about Bowe in 2014, he could have done better on a team that had talented speed lining up on the other side of formation rather than being the guy drawing the most attention. We have enough draft picks where we could set him free from what he was sentenced to in 2014. As a Danny Shelton fan, I'm excited it doesn't even have to be as early as pick #12.

  • If you say his name really fast while trying to sound like the Swedish Chef... its pretty funny.

  • If you say his name really fast while trying to sound like the Swedish Chef... its pretty funny.

    @tiamat63 said:

    If you say his name really fast while trying to sound like the Swedish Chef... its pretty funny.

    God bless ya! I just lost a mouth full of Diet Pepsi laughing at that sucker.

    I don't know if it's old age, feeling tired or speed reading dyslexia - but I've already called him Doogie Houser.

  • @tiamat63 said:

    If you say his name really fast while trying to sound like the Swedish Chef... its pretty funny.

    God bless ya! I just lost a mouth full of Diet Pepsi laughing at that sucker.

    I don't know if it's old age, feeling tired or speed reading dyslexia - but I've already called him Doogie Houser.

    @flugel said:

    God bless ya! I just lost a mouth full of Diet Pepsi laughing at that sucker.

    I don't know if it's old age, feeling tired or speed reading dyslexia - but I've already called him Doogie Houser.

    The crowd should be yelling "DOOOOOOOOOGGGGGGGGGG".