Browns sign TE Rob Housler.
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I think this allows them to not HAVE to draft a tight end if their targets aren't on the board.
Good size and speed. not so good everywhere else. Evan Moore?
Ya, Farmer did the same thing last year ... filling holes before the draft so that if the right guy isn't available at the right time, you don't have to make a desperation pick.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Ya, Farmer did the same thing last year ... filling holes before the draft so that if the right guy isn't available at the right time, you don't have to make a desperation pick.
Zombo
Yea, makes sense.
Farmer has shown that he hates taking pass catchers WR/TEs high. Picking up Bowe/Hartline may show that he will skip WR in round one despite all the mock drafts.
i mean....if Vince Lombardi was right, that the game is won and lost in the trenches, expect to see OL, DL taken high. not WR/TE/RBs.
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Zombo said:
Ya, Farmer did the same thing last year ... filling holes before the draft so that if the right guy isn't available at the right time, you don't have to make a desperation pick.
Zombo
Yea, makes sense.
Farmer has shown that he hates taking pass catchers WR/TEs high. Picking up Bowe/Hartline may show that he will skip WR in round one despite all the mock drafts.
i mean....if Vince Lombardi was right, that the game is won and lost in the trenches, expect to see OL, DL taken high. not WR/TE/RBs.
I'm on board with that. I may be one of the few, but I don't want to see a receiver in the firstYea, makes sense.
Farmer has shown that he hates taking pass catchers WR/TEs high. Picking up Bowe/Hartline may show that he will skip WR in round one despite all the mock drafts.
i mean....if Vince Lombardi was right, that the game is won and lost in the trenches, expect to see OL, DL taken high. not WR/TE/RBs.
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Kinda depends on the WR... and who else is on the board.
I definitely do not want to see a TE in the first...
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Kinda depends on the WR... and who else is on the board.
I definitely do not want to see a TE in the first...
Sure, if it falls in your lap then it falls in your lap. Cooper and White are the only two I would even consider in the first, but they won't be there. Williams looks like the best TE, and I wouldn't touch him till mid to late secondKinda depends on the WR... and who else is on the board.
I definitely do not want to see a TE in the first...
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I don't mind a 4.5-running, 6'5" TE. Pull down 30-40 catches, and a TD or three and that's all we need.
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Just occurred to me that Mr. Dray might have had something to do with this recruitment...
Connect rate was decent in 2012 and 2013 at around 75% of targets.
Drop rate was 0.0 in 2014, 7.0 in 2013, 7.4 in 2012, but 19.2 in 2011... so there was improvement.
At 238 lb he's going to have issue with even smaller DEs on the line, but with a head of steam as an F-back??? Maybe...
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Like miss the hieden and Shaw days. They were Somewate realable
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Like miss the hieden and Shaw days. They were Somewate realable
You mean Aaron Shea?
Ya those guys were OK as was Evan Moore, looks like we might have a three-headed monster of 6'5 guys who catch and block and won't make a lot of mistakes, but aren't game changers. Nothing wrong with that if we can run the ball the wideouts are making plays.
Zombo
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Like miss the hieden and Shaw days. They were Somewate realable
You mean Aaron Shea?
Ya those guys were OK as was Evan Moore, looks like we might have a three-headed monster of 6'5 guys who catch and block and won't make a lot of mistakes, but aren't game changers. Nothing wrong with that if we can run the ball the wideouts are making plays.
Zombo
Zombo said:
You mean Aaron Shea?
Ya those guys were OK as was Evan Moore, looks like we might have a three-headed monster of 6'5 guys who catch and block and won't make a lot of mistakes, but aren't game changers. Nothing wrong with that if we can run the ball the wideouts are making plays.
Zombo
Too bad the criteria isn't like it used to be with the ladies. If you can find a hottie without any beers in the gut - giddyup and get after it. Now, if you need at least 12 beers to make something look attractive - you better hope your competition is the one power gluing that at the end of the night. Your buddy Flugel used to call that 12 pack love back in BC (Before Cellphones). Since 99, our front office has brought in a lot of the football version of 12 pack love.
Jim Dray was a pleasant surprise in the hands department. However, in a world of yards after the catch - that poor guy looked like he was stranded in park on a busy highway.
I'm pretty happy about our FA WRs and what Hawkins can do out of the slot. That should help us get a little more balance from the passing game. I'd still like us to add the dynamic of 1 acceleration gear on the perimeter to help get our other Receivers more favorable matchups. Like I heard about Bowe in 2014, he could have done better on a team that had talented speed lining up on the other side of formation rather than being the guy drawing the most attention. We have enough draft picks where we could set him free from what he was sentenced to in 2014. As a Danny Shelton fan, I'm excited it doesn't even have to be as early as pick #12.
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If you say his name really fast while trying to sound like the Swedish Chef... its pretty funny.
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If you say his name really fast while trying to sound like the Swedish Chef... its pretty funny.
If you say his name really fast while trying to sound like the Swedish Chef... its pretty funny.
God bless ya! I just lost a mouth full of Diet Pepsi laughing at that sucker.
I don't know if it's old age, feeling tired or speed reading dyslexia - but I've already called him Doogie Houser.
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If you say his name really fast while trying to sound like the Swedish Chef... its pretty funny.
God bless ya! I just lost a mouth full of Diet Pepsi laughing at that sucker.
I don't know if it's old age, feeling tired or speed reading dyslexia - but I've already called him Doogie Houser.
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1 year deal.
He played in Arizona, don't know much about him.
1 year deal.
He played in Arizona, don't know much about him.
Yawn.
He's 6'5" and can be coached up. This was a decent signing for the Browns because he can play at an NFL level right away. Some of the tight ends in the draft will take time to develop. I agree with this signing. The Cardinals played three quarterbacks last year and each one had a favorite target. Signing Housler now will give the coaches and the players ample time to develop chemistry. He's still young and might surprise some people.
By the time you get to the NFL- you can either catch the ball or you can't- see: Edwards, Braylon- and a host of others- a LITTLE refresher there.
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1 year deal.
He played in Arizona, don't know much about him.
Yawn.
He's 6'5" and can be coached up. This was a decent signing for the Browns because he can play at an NFL level right away. Some of the tight ends in the draft will take time to develop. I agree with this signing. The Cardinals played three quarterbacks last year and each one had a favorite target. Signing Housler now will give the coaches and the players ample time to develop chemistry. He's still young and might surprise some people.
By the time you get to the NFL- you can either catch the ball or you can't- see: Edwards, Braylon- and a host of others- a LITTLE refresher there.
Yawn.
By the time you get to the NFL- you can either catch the ball or you can't- see: Edwards, Braylon- and a host of others- a LITTLE refresher there.
When Braylon prioritized football in 2007 (2 years post surgery) - he had 16 TD receptions. The Braylon more interested in night life and barfights didn't look too much different than the version of Josh Gordon we saw in 2014. I'd swear the following blues classic is about Braylon Edwards https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=youtube+video+of+bb+king+thrill+is+gone&FORM=VIRE9#view=detail&mid=F0B0B2599FD25382EA12F0B0B2599FD25382EA12
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Yawn.
By the time you get to the NFL- you can either catch the ball or you can't- see: Edwards, Braylon- and a host of others- a LITTLE refresher there.
When Braylon prioritized football in 2007 (2 years post surgery) - he had 16 TD receptions. The Braylon more interested in night life and barfights didn't look too much different than the version of Josh Gordon we saw in 2014. I'd swear the following blues classic is about Braylon Edwards https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=youtube+video+of+bb+king+thrill+is+gone&FORM=VIRE9#view=detail&mid=F0B0B2599FD25382EA12F0B0B2599FD25382EA12
When Braylon prioritized football in 2007 (2 years post surgery) - he had 16 TD receptions.
So Edwards applied himself for one year, succeeded and then said, "fuck it"? Not buying that... '07 was just DA's and BE's highlight reel. Were they able to recreate it, then they would have.
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is it me or does KJ seem like he was the only receiver that the browns could actually count on since the 'reinception'?
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is it me or does KJ seem like he was the only receiver that the browns could actually count on since the 'reinception'?
is it me or does KJ seem like he was the only receiver that the browns could actually count on since the 'reinception'?
KJ was very reliable early on. Understanding he played through a pulled hammy most of his second year - he combined his 1st and 3rd seasons for a total of 17 TD receptions. He also had respectable yardages and reception volumes when healthy.
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just seemed like the guy loved the game, the city, and his relationship with his QB etc.
these guys nowadays.....i don't know. i think the WR 'diva' term came out like 10 years ago and everyone has followed suit.
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So Edwards applied himself for one year, succeeded and then said, "fuck it"? Not buying that... '07 was just DA's and BE's highlight reel. Were they able to recreate it, then they would have.
Did I really say 2007 was Braylon's rookie year? If so, my bad! I actually LIKED what I saw from Braylon when he finally got on the field as a rookie. I saw somebody that wanted to prove his value. I also liked what I saw from Braylon in his first year and second year post major knee reconstruction. We opened 2006 with what looked like a long TD pass hookup between him and Charlie Frye vrs the Saints. Unfortunately, that got called back. I liked his first 3 year body of work
IMO, somebody that worked so hard to get to that Pro Bowl level of 16 TD receptions in 2007 doesn't just SUCK 1 year later if there weren't some major shuffling of priorities in the offseason heading into 2008. Something drastically changed in his focus or the mere change of scenery to post season caliber teams in NY, SF, and Seattle kept him a round longer than a couple cups of coffee. Instead, none of those teams took very long to tell him "don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out." Nobody ever saw the 2007 version of Braylon again.
And suddenly getting more headlines for dropsies, bar fights and being Donte Stallworth's favorite drinking buddy isn't going to change my opinion on that.
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