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  • D BoneD D Bone

    3rd pick? We must have traded up.

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    darren15D darren15 wrote on last edited by
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    @d-bone said:

    3rd pick? We must have traded up.

    Or traded back 🙂

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      Opal312O Opal312 wrote on last edited by
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      One can dream and then make it a reality. Jones will be better than Jameis by a mile. Meyer is a far better coach and mentor than Jimbo.

      DAMN THE TORPEDOES! FULL SPEED AHEAD!
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        Not of the NFL game.

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          @d-bone said:

          3rd pick? We must have traded up.

          Or traded back 🙂

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          @darren15 said:

          Or traded back 🙂

          ouch!

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            These things are just dumb without knowing the draft order. Better off just ranking the eligible players.

            More surprising than OSU's group will be Ole Miss with 3 of the top 5. What High Freeze has done at such a small program is pretty impressive. Of course, those guys were part of a superstar 2013 class, one he hasn't backed up in ensuing recruiting cycles.

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            MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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            @wargograw said:

            These things are just dumb without knowing the draft order. Better off just ranking the eligible players.

            More surprising than OSU's group will be Ole Miss with 3 of the top 5. What High Freeze has done at such a small program is pretty impressive. Of course, those guys were part of a superstar 2013 class, one he hasn't backed up in ensuing recruiting cycles.

            You mean the class he purchased? The class that was representative of all of the shady shit the SEC does, and the way the NCAA ignores it?

            Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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              You sir, are a loser. Either beat em like Ohio State did (got all the respect in the world for them) or hush up. No one's got time for whiners. Yeah we pay players and you can either strengthen the NCAA, stop crying and take off the white wig and do it yourself, or enjoy your mediocre teams.

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                @wargograw said:

                These things are just dumb without knowing the draft order. Better off just ranking the eligible players.

                More surprising than OSU's group will be Ole Miss with 3 of the top 5. What High Freeze has done at such a small program is pretty impressive. Of course, those guys were part of a superstar 2013 class, one he hasn't backed up in ensuing recruiting cycles.

                You mean the class he purchased? The class that was representative of all of the shady shit the SEC does, and the way the NCAA ignores it?

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                WalterWhiteW WalterWhite wrote on last edited by
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                @mld-woody said:

                You mean the class he purchased? The class that was representative of all of the shady shit the SEC does, and the way the NCAA ignores it?

                You're a fucking Retard Woody.

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                  @mld-woody said:

                  You mean the class he purchased? The class that was representative of all of the shady shit the SEC does, and the way the NCAA ignores it?

                  You're a fucking Retard Woody.

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                  tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                  You're a fucking Retard Woody.

                  I mean, there was a ton of talk about the cash to that got throw recruits way when Freeze took over.

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                    And every single program in the SEC lies to parents about oversigning, unlike the big10.

                    No, everyone else does not do it - that's just the SEC.

                    The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown
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                      W wargograw wrote on last edited by wargograw
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                      Look at your handle. That's about how I feel about woe is me arguments from people that can't handle big time college football.

                      Also, our oversigning has been greatly reduced since a conference rule change. Secondly, how dumb does a parent have to be to believe a lie about oversigning? Most classes are very near full before signing day. If you've got a problem, don't sign there.

                      Oversigning's not a bad thing to the recruits. The vast majority of the time oversigning only happens because teams know the kid won't qualify. Everyone that qualifies usually makes it. They count kids back to the previous class if they're early enrollees.

                      Who it does harm is upperclassmen that have yet to prove themselves because oftentimes they are asked to transfer to make room. Saban does this every year. After his 2012 national championship he went through the spring and summer with 95 kids on scholarship (limit is 85). But that hardly counts as lying to the parents of recruits.

                      Oversigning is just a boogeyman non-SEC folks point to to make themselves feel better.

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                        MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                        Hahahaha... Didn't take long for A&M fans to fit right into the SEC, huh?

                        Oversigning, shady roster management, paying players, etc. All of it is bending or breaking the rules, and the SEC is king at it. Too bad the NCAA is spineless, because they wont do a damn thing. Fuck having tainted wins. Do it the right way.

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                          MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                          Oversigning isn't a bad thing to the recruits.... Lol, ok. This reverse logic here to make it seem like oversigning helps the players haha. Tell that to the players that lose their scholarship by being forced to transfer, or worse, forced to take a bogus medical hardship. How about the recruits that get the offer they've already accepted taken away last second because the coach oversigned. Or a player being forced to medical hardship in his first semester on campus because the coach oversigned, because they believe a common injury is career ending, even though that player had been committed for 18 months (happening at OSU right now)

                          Oversigning in no way helps the players.

                          Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                            WalterWhiteW WalterWhite wrote on last edited by
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                            Yes because Michigan football is the beacon of integrity the NCAA:

                            http://www.chatsports.com/michigan-wolverines/a/Michigan-football-covered-up-rape-allegations-and-threats-of-violence-then-lied-about-it-people-need-to-be-fired-immediately-10-2-4830

                            http://archive.freep.com/article/20140225/NEWS06/302250086/gibbons-federal-investigation-university-michigan-rape

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                              Yes because Michigan football is the beacon of integrity the NCAA:

                              http://www.chatsports.com/michigan-wolverines/a/Michigan-football-covered-up-rape-allegations-and-threats-of-violence-then-lied-about-it-people-need-to-be-fired-immediately-10-2-4830

                              http://archive.freep.com/article/20140225/NEWS06/302250086/gibbons-federal-investigation-university-michigan-rape

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                              MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                              @walterwhite said:

                              Yes because Michigan football is the beacon of integrity the NCAA:

                              http://www.chatsports.com/michigan-wolverines/a/Michigan-football-covered-up-rape-allegations-and-threats-of-violence-then-lied-about-it-people-need-to-be-fired-immediately-10-2-4830

                              http://archive.freep.com/article/20140225/NEWS06/302250086/gibbons-federal-investigation-university-michigan-rape

                              sigh...

                              Now we get to go down this path, congrats troll.

                              I am going to try to avoid some long drawn out debate with you, because I know you're just an troll, and a "fake outrage" idiot. I do not know how much you actually know about this situation (probably not very much), so this whole post will probably all be for nothing. I will say this though, if you actually think Michigan covered up a rape, of a true freshman kicker, on a team that was terrible at kicking and he couldnt even start, and we had open tryouts on campus to try to find another kicker.... if you think Michigan risked EVERYTHING to try to cover up a rape by Gibbons... YOU ARE A MORON. There is literally no reason to attempt to do that, none. Only bad things could come from that.

                              There wasn't enough evidence for a conviction. No one came forward. Nothing happened at the time. Later, his Sr year, the national set of rules for sexual assault at colleges changed, the burden of proof was lowered. This caused sexaul assault cases to be reexamined all across the country (yes, even including OSU). Even though he was never charged, the university saw enough there to expel him. He was then released from the team. If at any point you honestly thought the entire school was covering this up, you are a moron. You are mentally challenged, and struggle with basic reasoning.

                              .... now, back on to what the topic of this board turned into (before you so poorly attempted to insult Michigan. Pretty funny for two reasons though 1) you post about Michigan more than I do. 2) We still have no idea where you went to school. For all of the shit talking you do about Michigan, I'm expecting it to be a pretty kick ass university. I mean, it would have to be. Otherwise, you'd just look like an idiot. So please, enlighten me. Where did you get your degree?)

                              This was the story I was talking about . It also doesn't seem like Meyer is shying away from using Medical Hardships... he's at Saban level numbers right now. Not that this is inherently bad, but it is something to keep an eye on.

                              Just like a lot of schools will be over the scholarship limit by 1 or two after signing day, knowing there is a player or two that will transfer or whatnot. But continuing to do this more and more, going even higher over the limit, these are things to watch out for. Luckily, the B1G has stricter rules in place regarding oversigning than the SEC does, so I don't think Meyer and OSU are on Bama levels yet, but again, it is something to watch.

                              Anyway, back to what was sort of the topic. The SEC has spent years bending or flat out breaking the rules. There have been numerous recorded instances of it. The NCAA though, is spineless, and would never actually impose any punishment. So we're at the point where other teams are trying to copy their strategy. I think that is a shame. I'd rather have the NCAA grow a pair than move to a Minor League system.

                              Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                @walterwhite said:

                                Yes because Michigan football is the beacon of integrity the NCAA:

                                http://www.chatsports.com/michigan-wolverines/a/Michigan-football-covered-up-rape-allegations-and-threats-of-violence-then-lied-about-it-people-need-to-be-fired-immediately-10-2-4830

                                http://archive.freep.com/article/20140225/NEWS06/302250086/gibbons-federal-investigation-university-michigan-rape

                                sigh...

                                Now we get to go down this path, congrats troll.

                                I am going to try to avoid some long drawn out debate with you, because I know you're just an troll, and a "fake outrage" idiot. I do not know how much you actually know about this situation (probably not very much), so this whole post will probably all be for nothing. I will say this though, if you actually think Michigan covered up a rape, of a true freshman kicker, on a team that was terrible at kicking and he couldnt even start, and we had open tryouts on campus to try to find another kicker.... if you think Michigan risked EVERYTHING to try to cover up a rape by Gibbons... YOU ARE A MORON. There is literally no reason to attempt to do that, none. Only bad things could come from that.

                                There wasn't enough evidence for a conviction. No one came forward. Nothing happened at the time. Later, his Sr year, the national set of rules for sexual assault at colleges changed, the burden of proof was lowered. This caused sexaul assault cases to be reexamined all across the country (yes, even including OSU). Even though he was never charged, the university saw enough there to expel him. He was then released from the team. If at any point you honestly thought the entire school was covering this up, you are a moron. You are mentally challenged, and struggle with basic reasoning.

                                .... now, back on to what the topic of this board turned into (before you so poorly attempted to insult Michigan. Pretty funny for two reasons though 1) you post about Michigan more than I do. 2) We still have no idea where you went to school. For all of the shit talking you do about Michigan, I'm expecting it to be a pretty kick ass university. I mean, it would have to be. Otherwise, you'd just look like an idiot. So please, enlighten me. Where did you get your degree?)

                                This was the story I was talking about . It also doesn't seem like Meyer is shying away from using Medical Hardships... he's at Saban level numbers right now. Not that this is inherently bad, but it is something to keep an eye on.

                                Just like a lot of schools will be over the scholarship limit by 1 or two after signing day, knowing there is a player or two that will transfer or whatnot. But continuing to do this more and more, going even higher over the limit, these are things to watch out for. Luckily, the B1G has stricter rules in place regarding oversigning than the SEC does, so I don't think Meyer and OSU are on Bama levels yet, but again, it is something to watch.

                                Anyway, back to what was sort of the topic. The SEC has spent years bending or flat out breaking the rules. There have been numerous recorded instances of it. The NCAA though, is spineless, and would never actually impose any punishment. So we're at the point where other teams are trying to copy their strategy. I think that is a shame. I'd rather have the NCAA grow a pair than move to a Minor League system.

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                                WalterWhiteW WalterWhite wrote on last edited by WalterWhite
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                                @mld-woody said:

                                So please, enlighten me. Where did you get your degree?

                                This guy named Urban Meyer (ever heard of him?) used to coach there, it's called:

                                Bowling Green State University (where the Browns got their colors from and used to have training camp at)

                                6:1 girl to guy ratio and tons of hot slutty women and great parties.

                                They are also top 5 program in the country for what my degree was in.

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                                  WalterWhiteW WalterWhite wrote on last edited by
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                                  Michigan has a rich history of fraud and corruption:

                                  "An investigation into the automobile accident during Mateen Cleaves’ 1996 recruiting trip at the University of Michigan would reveal a curious relationship between the U of M basketball program and booster Ed Martin dating back to the 1980s. What started as an investigation by the school was later joined by the NCAA, Big Ten Conference, Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), Internal Revenue Service (IRS), and the United States Department of Justice (DOJ).

                                  Some unusual details with the registrations of the cars of student-athletes led back to Martin, who was later revealed to have loaned hundreds of thousands of dollars to various Michigan basketball players, including Chris Webber. The four players named and called to testify before a grand jury were Chris Webber, Maurice Taylor, Robert Traylor and Louis Bullock. It eventually became clear that all four had taken money from Martin.

                                  Michigan self-imposed several sanctions on itself, including a ban of post-season play for the 2002-2003 season. They also placed themselves on a two year probation, and vacated several wins and removed the players’ names and achievements from its record book. The NCAA doubled the length of the probation, penalized them scholarships, and banned them from associating with the named players in the scandal until the year 2012 (and Webber until 2013).

                                  The end result were two Final Four appearances were stripped from Michigan’s records, as well as Webber’s 1993 All-American honor, Traylor’s 1997 NIT and 1998 Big Ten Tournament MVP awards, and Bullock’s standing as the school’s third all-time leading scorer and the Big Ten’s all-time leader in 3-point field goals. It effectively wiped most of the major achievements of the Fab Five from the record books and hampered Michigan’s program for several years. It would be until 2009 before the Wolverines would make another NCAA tournament berth. Mateen Cleaves would end up playing for rival Michigan State."

                                  http://www.buzzfeed.com/whoiswillo/the-ten-biggest-scandals-in-ncaa-history-6o16

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                                      @mld-woody said:

                                      So please, enlighten me. Where did you get your degree?

                                      This guy named Urban Meyer (ever heard of him?) used to coach there, it's called:

                                      Bowling Green State University (where the Browns got their colors from and used to have training camp at)

                                      6:1 girl to guy ratio and tons of hot slutty women and great parties.

                                      They are also top 5 program in the country for what my degree was in.

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                                      MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                      @walterwhite said:

                                      This guy named Urban Meyer (ever heard of him?) used to coach there, it's called:

                                      Bowling Green State University (where the Browns got their colors from and used to have training camp at)

                                      6:1 girl to guy ratio and tons of hot slutty women and great parties.

                                      They are also top 5 program in the country for what my degree was in.

                                      Finally... god damn.

                                      Bowling Green is a nice school. No idea what your degree would be in though.

                                      Your hatred/trolling of Michigan is a little ridiculous. Idk if it is jealousy, or you're just an idiot, or what, but it gets pretty old.

                                      I could sit here and respond to every dumbass post you type trying to insult Michigan. I could tell you the actual facts around whatever situation you post. I could respond with the countless shady/dirty things OSU has done over the years. At the end of the day, I'd be arguing with a mental midget. Someone who is nothing more than a troll. It isn't worth my time. At least when I do a similar back and forth with Gipper, even if he is clearly wrong, at least I know his intentions rise above "How can I be a dick today?"

                                      So, continue to post what you like about Michigan. Have fun making yourself continue to look like an idiot. It is actually pretty nice outside, so I'm heading out.

                                      Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                        Oversigning isn't a bad thing to the recruits.... Lol, ok. This reverse logic here to make it seem like oversigning helps the players haha. Tell that to the players that lose their scholarship by being forced to transfer, or worse, forced to take a bogus medical hardship. How about the recruits that get the offer they've already accepted taken away last second because the coach oversigned. Or a player being forced to medical hardship in his first semester on campus because the coach oversigned, because they believe a common injury is career ending, even though that player had been committed for 18 months (happening at OSU right now)

                                        Oversigning in no way helps the players.

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                                        @mld-woody said:

                                        Oversigning isn't a bad thing to the recruits.... Lol, ok. This reverse logic here to make it seem like oversigning helps the players haha. Tell that to the players that lose their scholarship by being forced to transfer, or worse, forced to take a bogus medical hardship. How about the recruits that get the offer they've already accepted taken away last second because the coach oversigned. Or a player being forced to medical hardship in his first semester on campus because the coach oversigned, because they believe a common injury is career ending, even though that player had been committed for 18 months (happening at OSU right now)

                                        Oversigning in no way helps the players.

                                        Where did I say it helped the recruits? I said it didn't hurt them, which it doesn't, because actual taking away of scholarships is pretty rare. But again, if you're caught in that situation you should have seen it coming anyway.

                                        You sound like a woman. An ugly one that goes to Michigan.

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                                          Oversigning isn't a bad thing to the recruits.... Lol, ok. This reverse logic here to make it seem like oversigning helps the players haha. Tell that to the players that lose their scholarship by being forced to transfer, or worse, forced to take a bogus medical hardship. How about the recruits that get the offer they've already accepted taken away last second because the coach oversigned. Or a player being forced to medical hardship in his first semester on campus because the coach oversigned, because they believe a common injury is career ending, even though that player had been committed for 18 months (happening at OSU right now)

                                          Oversigning in no way helps the players.

                                          Where did I say it helped the recruits? I said it didn't hurt them, which it doesn't, because actual taking away of scholarships is pretty rare. But again, if you're caught in that situation you should have seen it coming anyway.

                                          You sound like a woman. An ugly one that goes to Michigan.

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                                          MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                          @wargograw said:

                                          Where did I say it helped the recruits? I said it didn't hurt them, which it doesn't, because actual taking away of scholarships is pretty rare. But again, if you're caught in that situation you should have seen it coming anyway.

                                          You sound like a woman. An ugly one that goes to Michigan.

                                          That might me a new low in defense of SEC recruiting tactics. "The recruits should know better. They should know we'll lie and that their spot isn't safe." Lovely

                                          I graduated already, bro.

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