Would you trade our two first round picks for Philip Rivers?
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love phillip rivers and his game....passion for the game.
first 2 rounders? no. a 4th round pick and a player/pick to be named later.........hell the f yeah.
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love phillip rivers and his game....passion for the game.
first 2 rounders? no. a 4th round pick and a player/pick to be named later.........hell the f yeah.
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You are right about hi being passionate, his "Mic'ed up" segments are so cool. But I guess I was referencing when he had in his prime Antonio Gates and LaDainan Tomlinson and they still didn't get much done
I admit I don't know much about the Chargers, and perhaps he underachieved back then. But what he did 2 seasons ago was special. He was on fire and willed his team to the playoffs. Last year wasnt bad either
31 TDs
18 INTs
4,286 Yds
93.8 Rating
I admit I don't know much about the Chargers, and perhaps he underachieved back then. But what he did 2 seasons ago was special. He was on fire and willed his team to the playoffs. Last year wasnt bad either
31 TDs
18 INTs
4,286 Yds
93.8 Rating
If Brian Hoyer had put up numbers like that he would have been voted Mayor.
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The stupid rumors always involve the Browns one way or another. A CBS sports analyst has the Browns trading their 12, 43 and fifth round to Redskins for Mariota. That just doesn't make sense to mortgage the future on a rookie unproven and another past his prime. Even if all the Browns needed was a QB, I would still say no. Since last year we have lost TJ Ward, Skrine, Sheard, Cameron and Rubin not to mention Josh Gordon. Shouldn't the front office replace the players we have lost and build on the young talent we retained?
Rivers would never agree to a deal with Cleveland thank God. He's not happy about the Chargers potential move to L.A. And would opt out in favor of playing on a team closer to his home. So that's how the rumor started with a potential mock trade with San Diego and Tenessee.
Since last year we have lost TJ Ward, Skrine, Sheard, Cameron and Rubin not to mention Josh Gordon. Shouldn't the front office replace the players we have lost and build on the young talent we retained?
Ward - Whitner
Skrine - Williams
Sheard - ? High draft priority
Cameron - ? Draft, most likely
Rubin - Starks
Quit whining and look at what's happened.
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Isn't he about a top 8 QB? In response to an above poster, if we were only a QB away, I would definitely take him. And lots of people seem to think we basically are (of course no one's ever really just one player away but we're about as close as you get).
He was ranked 10th in QBR last season., one spot ahead of Andrew Luck. So Top 10.
An QB is the one position that can mask inadequacies. Just look at Luck with the Colts.
He was ranked 10th in QBR last season., one spot ahead of Andrew Luck. So Top 10.
An QB is the one position that can mask inadequacies. Just look at Luck with the Colts.
The year before, he was 2nd behind only Peyton Manning who was performing football miracles that season.
Then again, QBR doesn't tell the whole story, unless of course you think Romo was the best QB in the league last season.
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Quit whining and look at what's happened. Chris
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Josh Gordon happened. Manziel happened.
Quit whining, and look what happened. Phil Taylor gets hurt and look what happened.
Trading our first two picks away for a 33 yr old qb who will be retiring in the near future?
Not buying it, even for a plug nickel.
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Yes because this draft class isn't great, our pick at 19 could have well been a late second rounder last year.
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Quit whining and look at what's happened. Chris
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Josh Gordon happened. Manziel happened.
Quit whining, and look what happened. Phil Taylor gets hurt and look what happened.
Trading our first two picks away for a 33 yr old qb who will be retiring in the near future?
Not buying it, even for a plug nickel.
Quit whining and look at what's happened. Chris
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Josh Gordon happened. Manziel happened.
Quit whining, and look what happened. Phil Taylor gets hurt and look what happened.
Trading our first two picks away for a 33 yr old qb who will be retiring in the near future?
Not buying it, even for a plug nickel.
Not saying we should go for Rivers - I would do it for one, but not both - but complaining about needing to replace players we've lost, when most of them *have* been replaced is stupid.
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or, not true.... Depends on which postion you draft at 19.
The rbs, offensive linemen, edge rushers, defensive tackles,inside linebackers in 2015 are better than 2014. Cornerbacksare even.And it isn't just 19 - it was both first round picks. Two players the Browns need vsa 33 yrd old qb from San Diego...I think that's absurd - just my opinion.The Browns need major improvements to their roster to build a winner, they aren't that faraway. They don't need what amounts to a "last piece of the puzzle". -
I don't feel educated enough to answer. But those of you saying no, why?
Old guy who has openly said he would only like to play in the south if he had to leave San Diego. On top of that, you get 2-3 years at most out of him.
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I'd think about it for #19 if a contract extension is involved. However, I've heard from a San Diego writer that Rivers would sooner retire than leave San Diego. He's got plenty of money, four kids, and doesn't want to put them through a relocation. It sounds like he's fairly ingrained in his community.
"I said, 'I need someone who's going to want to get on the roller coaster with me knowing that it's not always going to be fun,'" -Paul DePodesta -
Agree with some others here-I'd GLADLY give up #19 and a 4th-5th if it came with a contract extension. Phil may be 33 but he's still a top 10 QB in the NFL. Hell if he gave us 3 years of solid QB play that would be better than any frikin first round QB we've drafted. For a one year rental though-no way.
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The stupid rumors always involve the Browns one way or another. A CBS sports analyst has the Browns trading their 12, 43 and fifth round to Redskins for Mariota. That just doesn't make sense to mortgage the future on a rookie unproven and another past his prime. Even if all the Browns needed was a QB, I would still say no. Since last year we have lost TJ Ward, Skrine, Sheard, Cameron and Rubin not to mention Josh Gordon. Shouldn't the front office replace the players we have lost and build on the young talent we retained?
Rivers would never agree to a deal with Cleveland thank God. He's not happy about the Chargers potential move to L.A. And would opt out in favor of playing on a team closer to his home. So that's how the rumor started with a potential mock trade with San Diego and Tenessee.
The stupid rumors always involve the Browns one way or another. A CBS sports analyst has the Browns trading their 12, 43 and fifth round to Redskins for Mariota. That just doesn't make sense to mortgage the future on a rookie unproven and another past his prime. Even if all the Browns needed was a QB, I would still say no. Since last year we have lost TJ Ward, Skrine, Sheard, Cameron and Rubin not to mention Josh Gordon. Shouldn't the front office replace the players we have lost and build on the young talent we retained?
Rivers would never agree to a deal with Cleveland thank God. He's not happy about the Chargers potential move to L.A. And would opt out in favor of playing on a team closer to his home. So that's how the rumor started with a potential mock trade with San Diego and Tenessee.
Do you seriously think 12, 43 and a fifth round pick counts as mortgaging our future? That's a pittance compared to what people trade to land their qb of the future. I don't know if Mariotta would be the right guy for us or not, but right now, we have no one else. I would be happy as heck to land Marcus for that price. Just a few years ago, it might have cost us 3 consecutive number 1's. To only lose one number 1 pick is a far better deal then trading two number ones for Rivers.
Also keep in mind, Rivers may not sign here long term, that is true, but rookie first round contracts are 4 years, with a team option 5th year I believe. By then hopefully we would have something built around him to make him want to stay.
Hx214, and JRB12711, you guys really think giving up that much would benefit this team? Rivers would be more then #19 and a 5, likely #19 and a 3 minimum. If you are not trading the 2 1's to move up for Marcus, it will take our other 1, our 2, and likely a pick next year as well. That is a whole heck of a lot to give up for 2 players, which only one will start. We would essentially lose all our picks till round 4-5, and likely a no.2 next year as well. That's WAY to much to lose for Rivers, and Marcus. And that's only if the trade up doesn't cost us our next year 1, which it could.
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If this happened and I were a Browns fan I would burn all my gear and find a new team. Seriously.
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Well I think it's one of these three answers:
No
Hell no
Fuck no.
WSS
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