Royal over Winslow
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I agree. I loved Winslow as Brown but this move makes tons of sense.
It is funny how people are fine with terms like WCO offense and such...but use "dink and dunk" and they blame this on the QB as if it is their poor play that forces them to dink or dunk...
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I talked with my co-worker Bills fan, and he says that Royal has an issue dropping balls, fumbling, and getting holding penalties on big plays. . . If it's true, then he'll fit right in.
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And a good opinion at that and if we go WCO style quinn is almost guaranteed to be the starter as DA is ineffective at the quick scanning needed to run the dink n dunk effectively..
And a good opinion at that and if we go WCO style quinn is almost guaranteed to be the starter as DA is ineffective at the quick scanning needed to run the dink n dunk effectively..
One of the reports that I read when the silly Denver rumor was making its rounds was that Mangini doesn't like air it out type of QBs. A reason he was a little put off with the hiring of Favre and trading of Pennington. The offense he likes to run is a run oriented with short passing game, that isn't Favre and that certainly isn't Cutler. For Cleveland, that is Quinn and isn't Anderson.
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We may not be picking up the huge chunks of yards like we used to with DA throwing deep to Winslow and Edwards but I like the new system we will be running because we should be able to move the chains consistantly which I would rather have over the home run anytime. We need to keep our defense OFF the field. Royal should give us the blocking needed to run the ball effectively as long as we also take care of the RT position too.
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Here's why the trade of Winslow and the selection of Royal is a very good move for the Browns. Winslow was a receiving TE and a oft injured one at that. He was a penality machine also. I loved Winslow's heart on the field but the Brown's offense wouldn't be suited for him as a #1 TE.
Cleveland wants to feature running the ball with a blocking TE (Heiden/Royal) and 2 or 3 wide. What some call dink and dump, others call a WCO. You will see a lot of slants and out routes and crossing routes which Quinn can throw well out of 3 step drops. The TE will be a check down.
We now have the blocking TEs to run the offense they want and also have Rucker to bring along as a TE or slot receiver in some spread formations.
And the best reason is that Winslow wants a new contract because he knows his knees and cronic shoulder problem aren't going to make it too much longer. So, we are minus his salary and pick up a 2nd round draft pick which should be a starter in a position of need.
As much as some here love Winslow's attitude, heart and hands, this team is being built with draft picks for the long run and Winslow wasn't going to be around for the long run.
JMO
Here's why the trade of Winslow and the selection of Royal is a very good move for the Browns. Winslow was a receiving TE and a oft injured one at that. He was a penality machine also. I loved Winslow's heart on the field but the Brown's offense wouldn't be suited for him as a #1 TE.
Cleveland wants to feature running the ball with a blocking TE (Heiden/Royal) and 2 or 3 wide. What some call dink and dump, others call a WCO. You will see a lot of slants and out routes and crossing routes which Quinn can throw well out of 3 step drops. The TE will be a check down.
We now have the blocking TEs to run the offense they want and also have Rucker to bring along as a TE or slot receiver in some spread formations.
And the best reason is that Winslow wants a new contract because he knows his knees and cronic shoulder problem aren't going to make it too much longer. So, we are minus his salary and pick up a 2nd round draft pick which should be a starter in a position of need.
As much as some here love Winslow's attitude, heart and hands, this team is being built with draft picks for the long run and Winslow wasn't going to be around for the long run.
JMO
Winslow was Quinn's lifeline. Spin it how you like, but you know it doesn't look good for the Queenster.
Kudos for coming up with some half-cocked reason to believe they're gearing up for a slant-based O to suit Quinn's dump-it-off-quick-and-short playing style. Just don't get your hopes up.
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Here's why the trade of Winslow and the selection of Royal is a very good move for the Browns. Winslow was a receiving TE and a oft injured one at that. He was a penality machine also. I loved Winslow's heart on the field but the Brown's offense wouldn't be suited for him as a #1 TE.
Cleveland wants to feature running the ball with a blocking TE (Heiden/Royal) and 2 or 3 wide. What some call dink and dump, others call a WCO. You will see a lot of slants and out routes and crossing routes which Quinn can throw well out of 3 step drops. The TE will be a check down.
We now have the blocking TEs to run the offense they want and also have Rucker to bring along as a TE or slot receiver in some spread formations.
And the best reason is that Winslow wants a new contract because he knows his knees and cronic shoulder problem aren't going to make it too much longer. So, we are minus his salary and pick up a 2nd round draft pick which should be a starter in a position of need.
As much as some here love Winslow's attitude, heart and hands, this team is being built with draft picks for the long run and Winslow wasn't going to be around for the long run.
JMO
Winslow was Quinn's lifeline. Spin it how you like, but you know it doesn't look good for the Queenster.
Kudos for coming up with some half-cocked reason to believe they're gearing up for a slant-based O to suit Quinn's dump-it-off-quick-and-short playing style. Just don't get your hopes up.
Winslow was Quinn's lifeline. Spin it how you like, but you know it doesn't look good for the Queenster.
Kudos for coming up with some half-cocked reason to believe they're gearing up for a slant-based O to suit Quinn's dump-it-off-quick-and-short playing style. Just don't get your hopes up.
It's called a West Coast Offense which is a hell of a lot better then "throw it deep into coverage" Anderson and hope.
Don't worry about how you will miss seeing him. At his height you will get a good shot of him holding the clipboard.
Lifeline....................LOL
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Winslow was Quinn's lifeline. Spin it how you like, but you know it doesn't look good for the Queenster.
Kudos for coming up with some half-cocked reason to believe they're gearing up for a slant-based O to suit Quinn's dump-it-off-quick-and-short playing style. Just don't get your hopes up.
It's called a West Coast Offense which is a hell of a lot better then "throw it deep into coverage" Anderson and hope.
Don't worry about how you will miss seeing him. At his height you will get a good shot of him holding the clipboard.
Lifeline....................LOL
It's called a West Coast Offense which is a hell of a lot better then "throw it deep into coverage" Anderson and hope.
Don't worry about how you will miss seeing him. At his height you will get a good shot of him holding the clipboard.
Lifeline....................LOL
Nobody calls anything about the Browns a west coast offense except for the BQ Lovers who are trying to explain why he dumps it off to Harrison or Winslow when Braylon is wide open for a first down.
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It's called a West Coast Offense which is a hell of a lot better then "throw it deep into coverage" Anderson and hope.
Don't worry about how you will miss seeing him. At his height you will get a good shot of him holding the clipboard.
Lifeline....................LOL
Nobody calls anything about the Browns a west coast offense except for the BQ Lovers who are trying to explain why he dumps it off to Harrison or Winslow when Braylon is wide open for a first down.
Nobody calls anything about the Browns a west coast offense except for the BQ Lovers who are trying to explain why he dumps it off to Harrison or Winslow when Braylon is wide open for a first down.
Nobody has seen the new offense yet moron..............................................
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While calling him a moron please to do amplify all the great results of Sewage which you profoundly accoladed as greatly improving the team
The silence of your response will be deafening or will you make an ass of yourself in defending that Sewage was indeed great as yu maintained for four years
some of us saw he was a bum..........and a few like are what you are....substanceless blowhards devoid of integrity
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Here's why the trade of Winslow and the selection of Royal is a very good move for the Browns. Winslow was a receiving TE and a oft injured one at that. He was a penality machine also. I loved Winslow's heart on the field but the Brown's offense wouldn't be suited for him as a #1 TE.
Cleveland wants to feature running the ball with a blocking TE (Heiden/Royal) and 2 or 3 wide. What some call dink and dump, others call a WCO. You will see a lot of slants and out routes and crossing routes which Quinn can throw well out of 3 step drops. The TE will be a check down.
We now have the blocking TEs to run the offense they want and also have Rucker to bring along as a TE or slot receiver in some spread formations.
And the best reason is that Winslow wants a new contract because he knows his knees and cronic shoulder problem aren't going to make it too much longer. So, we are minus his salary and pick up a 2nd round draft pick which should be a starter in a position of need.
As much as some here love Winslow's attitude, heart and hands, this team is being built with draft picks for the long run and Winslow wasn't going to be around for the long run.
JMO
Winslow was Quinn's lifeline. Spin it how you like, but you know it doesn't look good for the Queenster.
Kudos for coming up with some half-cocked reason to believe they're gearing up for a slant-based O to suit Quinn's dump-it-off-quick-and-short playing style. Just don't get your hopes up.
Winslow was Quinn's lifeline. Spin it how you like, but you know it doesn't look good for the Queenster.
Kudos for coming up with some half-cocked reason to believe they're gearing up for a slant-based O to suit Quinn's dump-it-off-quick-and-short playing style. Just don't get your hopes up.
Winslow averaged 6 catches for 75 yards in the games Quinn started and Winslow played in.
Winslow averaged 5 catches for 62 yards in the games DA started and Winslow played in from 07-08.
Not much of a difference, especially considering that Winslow had one extreme outlier in the games Quinn started (10 catches in Buffalo.) They have almost exactly the same yards per catch, 12.4 for DA and 12.5 for Quinn. Yeah, what a safety net Winslow was for Quinn.
Looks like the one spinning it would be Lumberg.
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It's called a West Coast Offense which is a hell of a lot better then "throw it deep into coverage" Anderson and hope.
Don't worry about how you will miss seeing him. At his height you will get a good shot of him holding the clipboard.
Lifeline....................LOL
Nobody calls anything about the Browns a west coast offense except for the BQ Lovers who are trying to explain why he dumps it off to Harrison or Winslow when Braylon is wide open for a first down.
Nobody calls anything about the Browns a west coast offense except for the BQ Lovers who are trying to explain why he dumps it off to Harrison or Winslow when Braylon is wide open for a first down.
Some call it a form of WCO offense and some call it dink and dunk. Either way it is a form of offense that brings consistency. Tom Brady is a great example of a QB who thrives in a similar offense. He is able to use wide outs and guys like Patrick Pass and the like to move the chains regardless of who his "high profile" (if any) recievers/TEs were. It is not a weak attack as some LOVE to make it out to be...it is a style/system.
Get pissed Lums...DA doesn't fit that mold so clearly it is 100000% wrong in the NFL.
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Read this on Rotoworld:
New Browns TE Robert Royal is expected to spend "over 90 percent" of his time on the field as a blocker.
The Browns plan to not throw to Royal, but it isn't like they have many options at the moment. They need serious help in the receiving game. Royal might see 2-3 targets a week, but the plodding TE will be a poor bet for yardage.
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Read this on Rotoworld:
New Browns TE Robert Royal is expected to spend "over 90 percent" of his time on the field as a blocker.
The Browns plan to not throw to Royal, but it isn't like they have many options at the moment. They need serious help in the receiving game. Royal might see 2-3 targets a week, but the plodding TE will be a poor bet for yardage.
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