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  • Dacaddyman ?
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    ? Dacaddyman wrote on last edited by
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    We may not be picking up the huge chunks of yards like we used to with DA throwing deep to Winslow and Edwards but I like the new system we will be running because we should be able to move the chains consistantly which I would rather have over the home run anytime. We need to keep our defense OFF the field. Royal should give us the blocking needed to run the ball effectively as long as we also take care of the RT position too.

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      Here's why the trade of Winslow and the selection of Royal is a very good move for the Browns. Winslow was a receiving TE and a oft injured one at that. He was a penality machine also. I loved Winslow's heart on the field but the Brown's offense wouldn't be suited for him as a #1 TE.

      Cleveland wants to feature running the ball with a blocking TE (Heiden/Royal) and 2 or 3 wide. What some call dink and dump, others call a WCO. You will see a lot of slants and out routes and crossing routes which Quinn can throw well out of 3 step drops. The TE will be a check down.

      We now have the blocking TEs to run the offense they want and also have Rucker to bring along as a TE or slot receiver in some spread formations.

      And the best reason is that Winslow wants a new contract because he knows his knees and cronic shoulder problem aren't going to make it too much longer. So, we are minus his salary and pick up a 2nd round draft pick which should be a starter in a position of need.

      As much as some here love Winslow's attitude, heart and hands, this team is being built with draft picks for the long run and Winslow wasn't going to be around for the long run.

      JMO

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      LumberghL Lumbergh wrote on last edited by
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      @ytownbrownsbacker said:

      Here's why the trade of Winslow and the selection of Royal is a very good move for the Browns. Winslow was a receiving TE and a oft injured one at that. He was a penality machine also. I loved Winslow's heart on the field but the Brown's offense wouldn't be suited for him as a #1 TE.

      Cleveland wants to feature running the ball with a blocking TE (Heiden/Royal) and 2 or 3 wide. What some call dink and dump, others call a WCO. You will see a lot of slants and out routes and crossing routes which Quinn can throw well out of 3 step drops. The TE will be a check down.

      We now have the blocking TEs to run the offense they want and also have Rucker to bring along as a TE or slot receiver in some spread formations.

      And the best reason is that Winslow wants a new contract because he knows his knees and cronic shoulder problem aren't going to make it too much longer. So, we are minus his salary and pick up a 2nd round draft pick which should be a starter in a position of need.

      As much as some here love Winslow's attitude, heart and hands, this team is being built with draft picks for the long run and Winslow wasn't going to be around for the long run.

      JMO

      Winslow was Quinn's lifeline. Spin it how you like, but you know it doesn't look good for the Queenster.

      Kudos for coming up with some half-cocked reason to believe they're gearing up for a slant-based O to suit Quinn's dump-it-off-quick-and-short playing style. Just don't get your hopes up.

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        @ytownbrownsbacker said:

        Here's why the trade of Winslow and the selection of Royal is a very good move for the Browns. Winslow was a receiving TE and a oft injured one at that. He was a penality machine also. I loved Winslow's heart on the field but the Brown's offense wouldn't be suited for him as a #1 TE.

        Cleveland wants to feature running the ball with a blocking TE (Heiden/Royal) and 2 or 3 wide. What some call dink and dump, others call a WCO. You will see a lot of slants and out routes and crossing routes which Quinn can throw well out of 3 step drops. The TE will be a check down.

        We now have the blocking TEs to run the offense they want and also have Rucker to bring along as a TE or slot receiver in some spread formations.

        And the best reason is that Winslow wants a new contract because he knows his knees and cronic shoulder problem aren't going to make it too much longer. So, we are minus his salary and pick up a 2nd round draft pick which should be a starter in a position of need.

        As much as some here love Winslow's attitude, heart and hands, this team is being built with draft picks for the long run and Winslow wasn't going to be around for the long run.

        JMO

        Winslow was Quinn's lifeline. Spin it how you like, but you know it doesn't look good for the Queenster.

        Kudos for coming up with some half-cocked reason to believe they're gearing up for a slant-based O to suit Quinn's dump-it-off-quick-and-short playing style. Just don't get your hopes up.

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        Y YtownBrownsBacker wrote on last edited by
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        @lumbergh said:

        Winslow was Quinn's lifeline. Spin it how you like, but you know it doesn't look good for the Queenster.

        Kudos for coming up with some half-cocked reason to believe they're gearing up for a slant-based O to suit Quinn's dump-it-off-quick-and-short playing style. Just don't get your hopes up.

        It's called a West Coast Offense which is a hell of a lot better then "throw it deep into coverage" Anderson and hope.

        Don't worry about how you will miss seeing him. At his height you will get a good shot of him holding the clipboard.

        Lifeline....................LOL

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          @lumbergh said:

          Winslow was Quinn's lifeline. Spin it how you like, but you know it doesn't look good for the Queenster.

          Kudos for coming up with some half-cocked reason to believe they're gearing up for a slant-based O to suit Quinn's dump-it-off-quick-and-short playing style. Just don't get your hopes up.

          It's called a West Coast Offense which is a hell of a lot better then "throw it deep into coverage" Anderson and hope.

          Don't worry about how you will miss seeing him. At his height you will get a good shot of him holding the clipboard.

          Lifeline....................LOL

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          LumberghL Lumbergh wrote on last edited by
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          @ytownbrownsbacker said:

          It's called a West Coast Offense which is a hell of a lot better then "throw it deep into coverage" Anderson and hope.

          Don't worry about how you will miss seeing him. At his height you will get a good shot of him holding the clipboard.

          Lifeline....................LOL

          Nobody calls anything about the Browns a west coast offense except for the BQ Lovers who are trying to explain why he dumps it off to Harrison or Winslow when Braylon is wide open for a first down.

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            @ytownbrownsbacker said:

            It's called a West Coast Offense which is a hell of a lot better then "throw it deep into coverage" Anderson and hope.

            Don't worry about how you will miss seeing him. At his height you will get a good shot of him holding the clipboard.

            Lifeline....................LOL

            Nobody calls anything about the Browns a west coast offense except for the BQ Lovers who are trying to explain why he dumps it off to Harrison or Winslow when Braylon is wide open for a first down.

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            Y YtownBrownsBacker wrote on last edited by
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            @lumbergh said:

            Nobody calls anything about the Browns a west coast offense except for the BQ Lovers who are trying to explain why he dumps it off to Harrison or Winslow when Braylon is wide open for a first down.

            Nobody has seen the new offense yet moron..............................................

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            • rich4eagle rich4eagleR One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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              rich4eagleR rich4eagle wrote on last edited by rich4eagle
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              While calling him a moron please to do amplify all the great results of Sewage which you profoundly accoladed as greatly improving the team

              The silence of your response will be deafening or will you make an ass of yourself in defending that Sewage was indeed great as yu maintained for four years

              some of us saw he was a bum..........and a few like are what you are....substanceless blowhards devoid of integrity

              Offense Wins.......Franchise QB's are the key.............Defense keeps you in the game.........Go Buckeyes
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              • LumberghL Lumbergh

                @ytownbrownsbacker said:

                Here's why the trade of Winslow and the selection of Royal is a very good move for the Browns. Winslow was a receiving TE and a oft injured one at that. He was a penality machine also. I loved Winslow's heart on the field but the Brown's offense wouldn't be suited for him as a #1 TE.

                Cleveland wants to feature running the ball with a blocking TE (Heiden/Royal) and 2 or 3 wide. What some call dink and dump, others call a WCO. You will see a lot of slants and out routes and crossing routes which Quinn can throw well out of 3 step drops. The TE will be a check down.

                We now have the blocking TEs to run the offense they want and also have Rucker to bring along as a TE or slot receiver in some spread formations.

                And the best reason is that Winslow wants a new contract because he knows his knees and cronic shoulder problem aren't going to make it too much longer. So, we are minus his salary and pick up a 2nd round draft pick which should be a starter in a position of need.

                As much as some here love Winslow's attitude, heart and hands, this team is being built with draft picks for the long run and Winslow wasn't going to be around for the long run.

                JMO

                Winslow was Quinn's lifeline. Spin it how you like, but you know it doesn't look good for the Queenster.

                Kudos for coming up with some half-cocked reason to believe they're gearing up for a slant-based O to suit Quinn's dump-it-off-quick-and-short playing style. Just don't get your hopes up.

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                DTBHD DTBH wrote on last edited by
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                @lumbergh said:

                Winslow was Quinn's lifeline. Spin it how you like, but you know it doesn't look good for the Queenster.

                Kudos for coming up with some half-cocked reason to believe they're gearing up for a slant-based O to suit Quinn's dump-it-off-quick-and-short playing style. Just don't get your hopes up.

                Winslow averaged 6 catches for 75 yards in the games Quinn started and Winslow played in.

                Winslow averaged 5 catches for 62 yards in the games DA started and Winslow played in from 07-08.

                Not much of a difference, especially considering that Winslow had one extreme outlier in the games Quinn started (10 catches in Buffalo.) They have almost exactly the same yards per catch, 12.4 for DA and 12.5 for Quinn. Yeah, what a safety net Winslow was for Quinn.

                Looks like the one spinning it would be Lumberg.

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                  @ytownbrownsbacker said:

                  It's called a West Coast Offense which is a hell of a lot better then "throw it deep into coverage" Anderson and hope.

                  Don't worry about how you will miss seeing him. At his height you will get a good shot of him holding the clipboard.

                  Lifeline....................LOL

                  Nobody calls anything about the Browns a west coast offense except for the BQ Lovers who are trying to explain why he dumps it off to Harrison or Winslow when Braylon is wide open for a first down.

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                  onefellswoop7O onefellswoop7 wrote on last edited by onefellswoop7
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                  @lumbergh said:

                  Nobody calls anything about the Browns a west coast offense except for the BQ Lovers who are trying to explain why he dumps it off to Harrison or Winslow when Braylon is wide open for a first down.

                  Some call it a form of WCO offense and some call it dink and dunk. Either way it is a form of offense that brings consistency. Tom Brady is a great example of a QB who thrives in a similar offense. He is able to use wide outs and guys like Patrick Pass and the like to move the chains regardless of who his "high profile" (if any) recievers/TEs were. It is not a weak attack as some LOVE to make it out to be...it is a style/system.

                  Get pissed Lums...DA doesn't fit that mold so clearly it is 100000% wrong in the NFL.

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                    A Alendor wrote on last edited by
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                    mangini comes from the belichek bold, theres no way he'll keep the same air it out offense we had the last 2 years. Anderson is done here, and it'll be either BQ or a signed vet taking over this season.

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                      Read this on Rotoworld:

                      New Browns TE Robert Royal is expected to spend "over 90 percent" of his time on the field as a blocker.

                      The Browns plan to not throw to Royal, but it isn't like they have many options at the moment. They need serious help in the receiving game. Royal might see 2-3 targets a week, but the plodding TE will be a poor bet for yardage.

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                        Read this on Rotoworld:

                        New Browns TE Robert Royal is expected to spend "over 90 percent" of his time on the field as a blocker.

                        The Browns plan to not throw to Royal, but it isn't like they have many options at the moment. They need serious help in the receiving game. Royal might see 2-3 targets a week, but the plodding TE will be a poor bet for yardage.

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                        mz. said:

                        Read this on Rotoworld:

                        Excellent thing to release...

                        Now instead of telegraphing the pass with K2 lined up, we will be telegraphing the run with Royal lined up...

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