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U.S. military 'hostile' to Christians under Obama; morale, retention devastated

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  • mohican mohicanM
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    mohicanM mohican wrote on last edited by
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    If you insist on that sort of sedition, Woody there are a few here that will brand you a traitor. Your Blue M will be overlayed with a crimpson T.

    Hope has two beautiful daughters: Their names are Anger and Courage. Anger that things are the way they are. Courage to make them the way they ought to be. - St. Augustine. Throughout the centuries there were men who took first steps down new roads armed with nothing but their vision. - Ayn Rand
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      @clevfan4life said:

      This was backlash against the compulsory Christian services military personnel were forced to attend for years. Big article about this 5 or so years ago where military people were coming home from Iraq saying we were "forced" to attend Christian services where we were forced to read from the bible. Even had quizzes about certain sections of the bible to make sure they were reading it on their spare time. I don't know what happened to just quietly going about your own business. If people want to attend Christian services that's their business, or whatever services they want to attend...or don't want to attend.

      You're full of shit as usual. I spent 22 years in and was never 'forced' to attend any religious service.

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      C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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      @diehardbrownsfan said:

      You're full of shit as usual. I spent 22 years in and was never 'forced' to attend any religious service.

      Took me all of 3 seconds to land articles from 08-010 about people being punished for not attending Christian rock concerts where the entire company was told to form up and march to the event. That wasn't even the big article I read back in 04 or 05 that was written by the Times that dealt with more serious events. I'd paste the links here but this site won't let me. So you'll have to google yourself.

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        @diehardbrownsfan said:

        You're full of shit as usual. I spent 22 years in and was never 'forced' to attend any religious service.

        Took me all of 3 seconds to land articles from 08-010 about people being punished for not attending Christian rock concerts where the entire company was told to form up and march to the event. That wasn't even the big article I read back in 04 or 05 that was written by the Times that dealt with more serious events. I'd paste the links here but this site won't let me. So you'll have to google yourself.

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        DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by DieHardBrownsFan
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        @clevfan4life said:

        Took me all of 3 seconds to land articles from 08-010 about people being punished for not attending Christian rock concerts where the entire company was told to form up and march to the event. That wasn't even the big article I read back in 04 or 05 that was written by the Times that dealt with more serious events. I'd paste the links here but this site won't let me. So you'll have to google yourself.

        You're full of shit. I read the articles. A few 'atheist' soldiers complained that they were forced to go to a concert. Sounds like a load of shit to me. No proof of anything again mental midget.

        "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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          Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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          I would be mad to. Christian rock music sucks. 😛

          "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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            C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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            and the officer that provoked that complaint was in serious trouble,

            because that violates the UCMJ.

            The problem I had in the AF, tech school, was I got in deep do for GOING

            to church retreats.

            I'd told that story before. And the nutjob master sgt who provoked my solution?

            Ended up in big, serious trouble. The UCMJ rules.

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              I would be mad to. Christian rock music sucks. 😛

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              F FairHooker11 wrote on last edited by
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              @browns149 said:

              I would be mad to. Christian rock music sucks. 😛

              its more like praise and worship - and its actually very good!

              but if you were talking Stryper, then well.....

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                @browns149 said:

                I would be mad to. Christian rock music sucks. 😛

                its more like praise and worship - and its actually very good!

                but if you were talking Stryper, then well.....

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                Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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                @fairhooker11 said:

                its more like praise and worship - and its actually very good!

                but if you were talking Stryper, then well.....

                Stryper, is about all I know about it, so my previous statement stands

                "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

                  So is that article just referencing theoretical situations and anecdotal evidence?

                  I also like the story about how moms and dads don't want their kids joining the military now. Lol. Like THIS is what did it...

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                  F FairHooker11 wrote on last edited by FairHooker11
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                  @mld-woody said:

                  @mld-woody said:

                  So is that article just referencing theoretical situations and anecdotal evidence?

                  I also like the story about how moms and dads don't want their kids joining the military now. Lol. Like THIS is what did it...

                  then you must be referring to the fact that many parents think that the (-ahem) commander in chief does not have the military (their kids)

                  best interests at heart?

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                    OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                    Bob Dylan for me made three of the best gospel albums back in the 80's which I still listen to. My wife and daughter however think Bob Dylan is the worst singer on the planet. 🙂

                    Another gospel album I like is from an old rock and roll singer Dion. I saw him on a Christian show once and he talked about how his mother worked two jobs and although his father was a nice guy he never worked at all. He said his father would have loved Obama.

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                      Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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                      I love Ray Charles. He was a gospel singing.

                      Even though he was a junkie, he sure did sing the gospel well

                      "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                        @browns149 said:

                        I would be mad to. Christian rock music sucks. 😛

                        its more like praise and worship - and its actually very good!

                        but if you were talking Stryper, then well.....

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                        LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                        @fairhooker11 said:

                        its more like praise and worship - and its actually very good!

                        but if you were talking Stryper, then well.....

                        My aunt gave me a Stryper tshirt when I was a kid haha. I still have it.

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                          @mld-woody said:

                          @mld-woody said:

                          So is that article just referencing theoretical situations and anecdotal evidence?

                          I also like the story about how moms and dads don't want their kids joining the military now. Lol. Like THIS is what did it...

                          then you must be referring to the fact that many parents think that the (-ahem) commander in chief does not have the military (their kids)

                          best interests at heart?

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                          MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                          @fairhooker11 said:

                          then you must be referring to the fact that many parents think that the (-ahem) commander in chief does not have the military (their kids)

                          best interests at heart?

                          Yyeeeaaa.. riiigghhht...

                          That's the reason

                          Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                            DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                            "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                              gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                              I first read that title as "Onward Christian Soliders Metallica Version" - now there's something I'd be interested in hearing 😉

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                                @clevfan4life said:

                                Took me all of 3 seconds to land articles from 08-010 about people being punished for not attending Christian rock concerts where the entire company was told to form up and march to the event. That wasn't even the big article I read back in 04 or 05 that was written by the Times that dealt with more serious events. I'd paste the links here but this site won't let me. So you'll have to google yourself.

                                You're full of shit. I read the articles. A few 'atheist' soldiers complained that they were forced to go to a concert. Sounds like a load of shit to me. No proof of anything again mental midget.

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                                C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                                @diehardbrownsfan said:

                                You're full of shit. I read the articles. A few 'atheist' soldiers complained that they were forced to go to a concert. Sounds like a load of shit to me. No proof of anything again mental midget.

                                lol they filed a formal complaint. You're an idiot. And they weren't all atheists either, some of the ones that filed the complaint were catholics. They just didn't want to be forced to go to a concert with major evangelical undertones. If you bothered to actually read the articles you might not come off like an idiot.

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                                  @diehardbrownsfan said:

                                  You're full of shit. I read the articles. A few 'atheist' soldiers complained that they were forced to go to a concert. Sounds like a load of shit to me. No proof of anything again mental midget.

                                  lol they filed a formal complaint. You're an idiot. And they weren't all atheists either, some of the ones that filed the complaint were catholics. They just didn't want to be forced to go to a concert with major evangelical undertones. If you bothered to actually read the articles you might not come off like an idiot.

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                                  DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                                  @clevfan4life said:

                                  lol they filed a formal complaint. You're an idiot. And they weren't all atheists either, some of the ones that filed the complaint were catholics. They just didn't want to be forced to go to a concert with major evangelical undertones. If you bothered to actually read the articles you might not come off like an idiot.

                                  Oh STFU pussy.

                                  "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                                    @clevfan4life said:

                                    lol they filed a formal complaint. You're an idiot. And they weren't all atheists either, some of the ones that filed the complaint were catholics. They just didn't want to be forced to go to a concert with major evangelical undertones. If you bothered to actually read the articles you might not come off like an idiot.

                                    Oh STFU pussy.

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                                    C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                                    @diehardbrownsfan said:

                                    Oh STFU pussy.

                                    ah yes, I didn't read something right so i'll just call him a pussy. Eat whole ass bro. 😁

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                                      @diehardbrownsfan said:

                                      Oh STFU pussy.

                                      ah yes, I didn't read something right so i'll just call him a pussy. Eat whole ass bro. 😁

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                                      DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                                      @clevfan4life said:

                                      ah yes, I didn't read something right so i'll just call him a pussy. Eat whole ass bro. 😁

                                      No one cares what you think on here asswipe, don't you get it.

                                      "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                                        @clevfan4life said:

                                        ah yes, I didn't read something right so i'll just call him a pussy. Eat whole ass bro. 😁

                                        No one cares what you think on here asswipe, don't you get it.

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                                        C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                                        @diehardbrownsfan said:

                                        No one cares what you think on here asswipe, don't you get it.

                                        It's an internet chatboard dude stfu. Know where you are lol. I don't care what anyone here thinks either. Is this your life? it's your life isn't it?

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                                          @diehardbrownsfan said:

                                          You're full of shit as usual. I spent 22 years in and was never 'forced' to attend any religious service.

                                          Took me all of 3 seconds to land articles from 08-010 about people being punished for not attending Christian rock concerts where the entire company was told to form up and march to the event. That wasn't even the big article I read back in 04 or 05 that was written by the Times that dealt with more serious events. I'd paste the links here but this site won't let me. So you'll have to google yourself.

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                                          StinkHoleS StinkHole wrote on last edited by
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                                          @clevfan4life said:

                                          Took me all of 3 seconds to land articles from 08-010 about people being punished for not attending Christian rock concerts where the entire company was told to form up and march to the event. That wasn't even the big article I read back in 04 or 05 that was written by the Times that dealt with more serious events. I'd paste the links here but this site won't let me. So you'll have to google yourself.

                                          But if you read one of those articles you would have known it was an isolated incident. It was clearly stated that it was not Army policy and being investigated, yet you're trying to sell it as something commonplace within the military.

                                          I spent 4yrs. in the AF...never forced to attend a religious service or concert.

                                          My kid is graduating from West Point this year, never was she force into anything religious.

                                          You heard Cals experience in the military.

                                          You heard Diehards testimony.

                                          You heard Cysco's....and you expect us to take your word for it...one that never served? You got some gall man.

                                          Here's some links for you.

                                          Military bans Chaplains from saying "Jesus".

                                          http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/lawsuit-chaplains-banned-from-saying-jesus.html

                                          Army punishes chaplain from using Bible verses to help those with suicidal thoughts.

                                          http://dailysignal.com/2014/12/14/military-punishes-chaplain-for-referencing-bible-during-suicide-prevention-seminar/

                                          Navy punishing chaplain for his beliefs.

                                          http://patriotpost.us/posts/34186

                                          Army removes cross..

                                          http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/army-removes-crosses-steeple-from-chapel.html

                                          Feel better?

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