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  • C Clevfan4life

    @westside-steve said:

    So exactly who would apologize and to whom?

    WSS

    The govt. On behalf of all the American people. I'm pretty sure this was done during the proclamation so it's a moot point, I just think that FOX dude has zero idea what he's talking about. He was the one that brought up the admin might apologize, OMG OMG, for slavery. I could take the time to go back and read the emancipation but unless someone knows otherwise that an apology wasn't in there, than i'm not gonna bother.

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    @clevfan4life said:

    The govt. On behalf of all the American people. I'm pretty sure this was done during the proclamation so it's a moot point, I just think that FOX dude has zero idea what he's talking about. He was the one that brought up the admin might apologize, OMG OMG, for slavery. I could take the time to go back and read the emancipation but unless someone knows otherwise that an apology wasn't in there, than i'm not gonna bother.

    Well I really must call my plantation manager and find out for sure but I'm almost positive we freed ours slaves a long time ago, right after we bought all that John Deere equipment. Hey I want somebody to apologize to me for whatever it was that killed the dinosaurs. See what you can do about that Cleve.

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      @clevfan4life said:

      Oh and just to be serious for a "moment"....has this country really never "officially" apologized for slavery? Yeah reperations aren't gonna happen but frankly, if an apology was never officially released...that's kind of horseshit. Fuck didn't we apologize for nuking the japs? Didn't they also apologize for Pearl Harbor? Would it really have been a big deal at some point in the past to say hey that was kind of fucked up. Gods sake, if this is true, this really does absolutely cement in totality what's categorically wrong with the human race.

      And who is gonna apologize to whom? Why don't you apologize Cleve. Unlike my ancestors who came over on the boat during the immigration wave of the early 1900's, way after slavery, perhaps yours may have been slave owners.

      And if you weren't aware, the white man didn't invade Africa and hide behind some bushes waiting to ambush some blacks walking by.

      Slaves were purchased/traded from trading posts along the Ivory Coast from AFRICAN SLAVE OWNERS.

      If anyone is to apologize, it is the ancestors of our black citizens.

      Secondly, slavery was the culture around the world, in Africa, The Middle East, Europe, China, and later in the Americas.

      Perhaps someday we will look back and abhor abortion, like we do slavery.

      Now that you have been enlightened enough to understand that whitey didn't invent slavery, you also need to be enlightened by the fact that the North African slave trade proceeded the Atlantic save trade by roughly 700 years...the perpetrators? Muslims, you dim wit liberals favorite group you love so much to defend.

      Ever hear of the Barbary Pirates?...that'd be them.

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      C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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      Stuart said:

      And who is gonna apologize to whom? Why don't you apologize Cleve. Unlike my ancestors who came over on the boat during the immigration wave of the early 1900's, way after slavery, perhaps yours may have been slave owners.

      And if you weren't aware, the white man didn't invade Africa and hide behind some bushes to wait for some blacks to walk by.

      Slaves were purchased/traded from trading posts along the Ivory coast from African slave owners.

      If anyone is to apologize, it is the ancestors of our black citizens.

      Secondly, slavery was the culture around the world, in Africa, The Middle East, Europe, China, and later in the Americas.

      Now that you have been enlightened enough to understand that whitey didn't invent slavery, you also need to be enlightened by the fact that the North African slave trade proceeded the Atlantic save trade by roughly 700 years...the perpetrators? Muslims, your dim wit liberals favorite group you love so much to defend.

      Ever hear of the Barbary Pirates?...that'd be them.

      Oh I never said "whitey" invented slavery you muppet. And I know full well that black tribes sold other blacks into slavery when they routed a village. But by your own logic, those that supplied the demand for slaves have NO FAULT? Are you fucking serious? You can't be that morally bankrupt to think that well if it weren't for those ngrs in Africa willingly selling their fellow ngrs those white folk back in the day would have never even conjured the idea of owning slaves. I know this exactly how your kind feels about things. It isn't about skin color, there's just a certain breed of low human that has overpopulated this planet that excuses it's behaviors with this sort of pass-go logic. Those that demanded slaves are just as much at fault if not more than the suppliers. Of course the suppliers were pieces of shit too nobody's giving them passes. But guys like Columbus weren't needing any black people to help him send Caribbean slaves, often girls as young as 9, back home to Spain.

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        @clevfan4life said:

        The govt. On behalf of all the American people. I'm pretty sure this was done during the proclamation so it's a moot point, I just think that FOX dude has zero idea what he's talking about. He was the one that brought up the admin might apologize, OMG OMG, for slavery. I could take the time to go back and read the emancipation but unless someone knows otherwise that an apology wasn't in there, than i'm not gonna bother.

        Well I really must call my plantation manager and find out for sure but I'm almost positive we freed ours slaves a long time ago, right after we bought all that John Deere equipment. Hey I want somebody to apologize to me for whatever it was that killed the dinosaurs. See what you can do about that Cleve.

        WSS

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        C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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        @westside-steve said:

        Well I really must call my plantation manager and find out for sure but I'm almost positive we freed ours slaves a long time ago, right after we bought all that John Deere equipment. Hey I want somebody to apologize to me for whatever it was that killed the dinosaurs. See what you can do about that Cleve.

        WSS

        You people seem to have this idea that if our govt apologized for slavery that somehow it makes present day people personally accountable for something that happened before their time. It's symbolic, but it's important enough for a society to do it because it says "this shit ain't happening again". And anybody that resists that, imo, is potentially someone that says hey we don't know what the future will bring..maybe we'll need slaves again in the future. Maybe not black slaves this time, maybe we can find some other marks? Let's just keep all our options open is what i'm saying. Let's not paint ourselves uneccessarily into a non slaving corner is all. <---------that

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          Stuart said:

          , would it surprise you if Obama actually does try and enact some sort of reparations bill?

          It would surprise any intelligent person. You people talked about reperations during Clintons term. It's an old play out of an old book. You people are infantile morons. Here's what I can see happen though. Some sort of an official apology may be enacted and you mewling children will scream it's the same thing. I do see that happening.

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          @clevfan4life said:

          It would surprise any intelligent person. You people talked about reperations during Clintons term. It's an old play out of an old book. You people are infantile morons. Here's what I can see happen though. Some sort of an official apology may be enacted and you mewling children will scream it's the same thing. I do see that happening.

          You people??? No YOU people. It's astonishing at how much you don't know.

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            @clevfan4life said:

            It would surprise any intelligent person. You people talked about reperations during Clintons term. It's an old play out of an old book. You people are infantile morons. Here's what I can see happen though. Some sort of an official apology may be enacted and you mewling children will scream it's the same thing. I do see that happening.

            You people??? No YOU people. It's astonishing at how much you don't know.

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            C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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            Stuart said:

            You people??? No YOU people. It's astonishing at how much you don't know.

            So it is done, they did apologize...but left out speech that would have conceivable led to a monetary settlement. Win win then isn't? So like I thought it had already been done in the past. Honestly I had thought it was done much much much prior to when that video took place...but oh well, never too late for something like that So what's your point? It was done, reparations were left off the table. Aren't you happy?

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              Stuart said:

              And who is gonna apologize to whom? Why don't you apologize Cleve. Unlike my ancestors who came over on the boat during the immigration wave of the early 1900's, way after slavery, perhaps yours may have been slave owners.

              And if you weren't aware, the white man didn't invade Africa and hide behind some bushes to wait for some blacks to walk by.

              Slaves were purchased/traded from trading posts along the Ivory coast from African slave owners.

              If anyone is to apologize, it is the ancestors of our black citizens.

              Secondly, slavery was the culture around the world, in Africa, The Middle East, Europe, China, and later in the Americas.

              Now that you have been enlightened enough to understand that whitey didn't invent slavery, you also need to be enlightened by the fact that the North African slave trade proceeded the Atlantic save trade by roughly 700 years...the perpetrators? Muslims, your dim wit liberals favorite group you love so much to defend.

              Ever hear of the Barbary Pirates?...that'd be them.

              Oh I never said "whitey" invented slavery you muppet. And I know full well that black tribes sold other blacks into slavery when they routed a village. But by your own logic, those that supplied the demand for slaves have NO FAULT? Are you fucking serious? You can't be that morally bankrupt to think that well if it weren't for those ngrs in Africa willingly selling their fellow ngrs those white folk back in the day would have never even conjured the idea of owning slaves. I know this exactly how your kind feels about things. It isn't about skin color, there's just a certain breed of low human that has overpopulated this planet that excuses it's behaviors with this sort of pass-go logic. Those that demanded slaves are just as much at fault if not more than the suppliers. Of course the suppliers were pieces of shit too nobody's giving them passes. But guys like Columbus weren't needing any black people to help him send Caribbean slaves, often girls as young as 9, back home to Spain.

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              StinkHoleS StinkHole wrote on last edited by
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              @clevfan4life said:

              Oh I never said "whitey" invented slavery you muppet. And I know full well that black tribes sold other blacks into slavery when they routed a village. But by your own logic, those that supplied the demand for slaves have NO FAULT?

              Yes I'm fucking serious. By todays standards, yes of course they were at fault. It was a nasty time in our history. It's called hindsight. During that time blacks were considered sub-human, and if you lived during the early years of slavery, you may have had a house servant or field hand and thought nothing of it...and you certainly wouldn't be spewing all you liberal bleeding heart gibberish you're doing right now.

              Are you fucking serious? You can't be that morally bankrupt to think that well if it weren't for those ngrs in Africa willingly selling their fellow ngrs those white folk back in the day would have never even conjured the idea of owning slaves. I know this exactly how your kind feels about things. It isn't about skin color, there's just a certain breed of low human that has overpopulated this planet that excuses it's behaviors with this sort of pass-go logic. Those that demanded slaves are just as much at fault if not more than the suppliers. Of course the suppliers were pieces of shit too nobody's giving them passes. But guys like Columbus weren't needing any black people to help him send Caribbean slaves, often girls as young as 9, back home to Spain.

              Yes I'm fucking serious. You can't seem to visualize how life was during that era and you ignore the fact that slavery up to that time was a part of WORLD culture and ECONOMICS...it wasn't just a USA thing. By todays standards and attitudes toward humanity, yes of course they were at fault. It's called hindsight. During that time blacks were considered sub-human, even by many of the elitists. They were "savages", without religion, and ignorant, and if you lived during the early years of slavery, you may have had a house servant or field hand and thought nothing of it...and you certainly wouldn't be spewing all your liberal gibberish you're doing right now.

              The abolitionist movement came along and public opinion changed. people began to realize slavery was wrong.

              You probably didn't know one of the largest slave owners in America was black did you?...and he probably thought nothing of it, cause his pappy in Africa was a slaveowner.

              Can't your kind ever put aside your liberal "feelings" and "compassion" and stop letting it fog up your ability to reason?

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                StinkHoleS StinkHole wrote on last edited by
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                These libfucks are just too much lol....Ben Affleck requested his slave owner ancestor be censored from the record books!

                An "apology" would suffice Ben...and if you got some of them there reparations, that would be great.

                http://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/ben-affleck-requested-his-slave-owner-ancestor-be-censored-from-pbs-finding-your-roots/ar-AAbcHvn

                Is the source OK with you Woody?

                Hey Cleve, you might want to check your family genealogy, and strike that fucker from the books.

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                  DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                  Cleve should apologize for his father not pulling out in time.

                  "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                  • W Westside Steve

                    @clevfan4life said:

                    It would surprise any intelligent person. You people talked about reperations during Clintons term. It's an old play out of an old book. You people are infantile morons. Here's what I can see happen though. Some sort of an official apology may be enacted and you mewling children will scream it's the same thing. I do see that happening.

                    So exactly who would apologize and to whom?

                    WSS

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                    C Chicopee John wrote on last edited by
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                    @westside-steve said:

                    So exactly who would apologize and to whom?

                    WSS

                    Well, my family came to this country in the early 1900's. Both sides.

                    What did we do?

                    "God is great. Beer is good. People are crazy."
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                      LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                      Yeah I came from Irish immigrants who came here after slavery and Germans who fought for the union.

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                        @westside-steve said:

                        So exactly who would apologize and to whom?

                        WSS

                        Well, my family came to this country in the early 1900's. Both sides.

                        What did we do?

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                        LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                        @chicopee-john said:

                        What did we do?

                        You are white. Apologize?

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                          MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                          Check your privilege

                          Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                            C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by calfoxwc
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                            The only apologies that should be coming, are from

                            the slave owners. Oh wait, there are none of them around anymore.

                            America forced them all to be freed.

                            Reparations talk is Liberal fuddy muddy emotional knee jerky.

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                              The only apologies that should be coming, are from

                              the slave owners. Oh wait, there are none of them around anymore.

                              America forced them all to be freed.

                              Reparations talk is Liberal fuddy muddy emotional knee jerky.

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                              StinkHoleS StinkHole wrote on last edited by
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                              @calfoxwc said:

                              The only apologies that should be coming, are from

                              the slave owners. Oh wait, there are none of them around anymore.

                              America forced them all to be freed.

                              Reparations talk is Liberal fuddy muddy emotional knee jerky.

                              I would be willing to bet that the descendants of slave owners are a tiny minority of the population. The vast majority of the current U.S. population are immigrants who's ancestors emigrated after slavery.

                              Get the fuck outa here libtards with your apology bullshit. You need to apologize for yourselves.

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                                MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                Who exactly has pushed for reparations?

                                Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

                                  Check your privilege

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                                  @mld-woody said:

                                  Check your privilege

                                  That's right Woody, toss out some of that liberalspeak of yours when your losing the argument...even if has nothing to do with the topic. That always works.

                                  Lol.."White privilege" another term spawned out of liberal "feelings" of white guilt.

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                                    Who exactly has pushed for reparations?

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                                    @mld-woody said:

                                    Who exactly has pushed for reparations?

                                    Damn kids, gotta take them by the hand every time...a suggestion would be to try to Google "The push for reparation for slavery" Woody.

                                    Do you know who John Conyers is?

                                    You should. He's a race baiting scumbag congressman from Michigan.

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                                      He's a race baiting, gay victim baiting, corrupt sumbeich scumbag congressman from Michigan. Stuart

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                                        @mld-woody said:

                                        Check your privilege

                                        That's right Woody, toss out some of that liberalspeak of yours when your losing the argument...even if has nothing to do with the topic. That always works.

                                        Lol.."White privilege" another term spawned out of liberal "feelings" of white guilt.

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                                        MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                        Stuart said:

                                        That's right Woody, toss out some of that liberalspeak of yours when your losing the argument...even if has nothing to do with the topic. That always works.

                                        Lol.."White privilege" another term spawned out of liberal "feelings" of white guilt.

                                        I was losing an argument with you? Where?

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                                          Stuart said:

                                          That's right Woody, toss out some of that liberalspeak of yours when your losing the argument...even if has nothing to do with the topic. That always works.

                                          Lol.."White privilege" another term spawned out of liberal "feelings" of white guilt.

                                          I was losing an argument with you? Where?

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                                          StinkHoleS StinkHole wrote on last edited by
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                                          @mld-woody said:

                                          I was losing an argument with you? Where?

                                          Gee, did I say that you were losing to me? Feeling a bit insecure by jumping to conclusions like that? Truth is you lose to everybody.

                                          Show me where you have won.

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