HBO's Scientology Documentary: Going Clear

StinkHole

@mld-woody said:

Anyone else watch this? I think it was pretty interesting. It is crazy what people will believe

(OBF stop reading here)

I can only think many early religions, those that are accepted now today, started off very similar to this one. We just consider Scientology crazy because it is newer and we're more intelligent as a people than we were thousands of years ago. If someone came up with these ideas 2,000 years ago, and had a very smart conman at the lead, would we be a "Scientologist-Country" now?

Well duh, if L.Ron Hubbard lived 2000 years ago then he would have been the conman in the lead, and Scientology would have come and gone like many other pagan religions before and after Christianity came on the scene.

Christianity didn't need a conman.

That was an incredibly stupid hypothesis Woody...you're obsessed with anti-religion and trying too way too hard.

MLD Woody

@axe said:

My outlook is simple..

I believe in a higher power. A supreme being (God) so to speak.

I believe it's not my place to tell you who, or what to believe in...

But I will say this..... if you don't believe in a higher power other than yourself. I will suggest to you that you have yet to arrive at a point in life where that simple truth is made painfully aware to you..

But you will...

We all do..

As crazy as that may seem.................

I'm going to have some great " god epiphany"... Huh. I look forward to it.

StinkHole

@mld-woody said:
I'm going to have some great " god epiphany"... Huh. I look forward to it.

But didn't you already have your god epiphany back in 2008 when your god was elected prez of the USA? Seems all the other liberals did.

DieHardBrownsFan

@mld-woody said:

Anyone else watch this? I think it was pretty interesting. It is crazy what people will believe

(OBF stop reading here)

I can only think many early religions, those that are accepted now today, started off very similar to this one. We just consider Scientology crazy because it is newer and we're more intelligent as a people than we were thousands of years ago. If someone came up with these ideas 2,000 years ago, and had a very smart conman at the lead, would we be a "Scientologist-Country" now?

I watched it. Its about a crazy guy who made up the whole thing to make money. How you can equate this to other religions is beyond me.

LogicIsForSquares

@diehardbrownsfan said:
I watched it. Its about a crazy guy who made up the whole thing to make money. How you can equate this to other religions is beyond me.

Joseph Smith was a known conman and look how many people got suckered into that.

Browns149

@diehardbrownsfan said:
I watched it. Its about a crazy guy who made up the whole thing to make money. How you can equate this to other religions is beyond me.

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OldBrownsFan

You can find fault with Christians and organized religion and I would not disagree one bit. I tell people to read the gospel of John and find fault with Jesus and get back to me but they never do.

DieHardBrownsFan

@logicisforsquares said:
Joseph Smith was a known conman and look how many people got suckered into that.

So was Jonestown. I'm talking about Christianity as a whole. Not a offshoot religion started by some lunatic.

Clevfan4life

i'd been told by someone who swore he was among them a while back that they are not what they seem. All the xenu shit is a front so that people don't take the organization seriously, mission accomplished if that's true. They basically made themselves into clowns to avoid clashing with the major religions who obviously wield great power with many of the worlds superpowers. Who knows. When you read some of L's shit it's hard to imagine anyone taking that seriously, I remember something about humanoid alligators riding flying motorcycles or some absolutely off the wall shit like that. Just batshit insane. And the xenu story about how we all came here on DC-10's and got dropped off in volcano's.....it really does seem like someone went way way way out of their way to make sure people thought this was a stupid bat shit crazy little group that would be zero threat to anything.

StinkHole

@logicisforsquares said:
Joseph Smith was a known conman and look how many people got suckered into that.

Charles Taze Russell.

Westside Steve

It does sound interesting. I always take expose documentaries with a grain of salt because more often than not they're based on reports by people with an axe to grind but...

WSS

Dste Ace

Festivus for the rest of us.

Axe

@mld-woody said:
I'm going to have some great " god epiphany"... Huh. I look forward to it.

Well, the first idea you probably need to entertain young man is the fact that maybe,,,, just maybe,, you don't know everything..

Having watched and read your responses to a myriad of different subject matters here, I find that outlook to be a virtual impossibility for you to entertain.

I was you,,, probably 40 yrs ago.. I am embarrassed to say that.. I'm certain if you live this long, you will be too...

WalterWhite

Living in Los Angeles, my landlord was a Scientologist.

I know quite of a few of them actually. They're pretty much harmless but kind of seem a little off.

DieHardBrownsFan

@axe said:

Well, the first idea you probably need to entertain young man is the fact that maybe,,,, just maybe,, you don't know everything..

Having watched and read your responses to a myriad of different subject matters here, I find that outlook to be a virtual impossibility for you to entertain.

I was you,,, probably 40 yrs ago.. I am embarrassed to say that.. I'm certain if you live this long, you will be too...

At 22 the brain isn't quite fully developed yet.

MLD Woody

@axe said:

Well, the first idea you probably need to entertain young man is the fact that maybe,,,, just maybe,, you don't know everything..

Having watched and read your responses to a myriad of different subject matters here, I find that outlook to be a virtual impossibility for you to entertain.

I was you,,, probably 40 yrs ago.. I am embarrassed to say that.. I'm certain if you live this long, you will be too...

I never said I know everything. I commented on your response that at some point I'll "find a higher power" or whatever. I look forward to learning new ideas and subjects. But simply saying "I'm older than you, you're wrong" doesn't quite do it for me. Congrats on believing in a higher power. I see nothing right now that will completely shatter what I believe.

I'm sorry you were embarrassed by your younger self. I'm quite happy with myself right now though.

Maybe it shouldn't be you place to claim you're right based only on your age? Maybe your life experiences and beliefs can't be used to define everyone else? If you disagree with me on topics, maybe attempt to counter the points being made, not just write me off for being younger.

MLD Woody

@diehardbrownsfan said:
At 22 the brain isn't quite fully developed yet.

Ageist

StinkHole

@mld-woody said:
I'm sorry you were embarrassed by your younger self. I'm quite happy with myself right now though.

Lol.. of course you are woody, and so was Axe with himself. Miss the point much?

MLD Woody

Stuart said:
Lol.. of course you are woody, and so was Axe with himself. Miss the point much?

Will I grow up and become "wiser"? Sure. Will I have wished I did some things differently? Probably.

Not sure how that validates any kind of "I'm older than you, you're wrong" mentality.

If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. Present factual evidence to show me that. Don't just way "So young. Thinks he knows everything. Back in my day...." and then act like that proves anything.

Westside Steve

I just think for most of us as we look back on the things we took so seriously when we were in our early twenties it really is an epiphany. of course back then we were dead certain that we were the smartest most perceptive most understanding most tolerant most forward thinking human beings that ever walked the planet.

I know you understand that and will come to understand it better as years go by.

WSS