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  • The Cysko Kid T Conversation Starter Reacting Well Dedicated Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Week One Done One Month Later One Year In
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    T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
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    Yeah no shit.

    Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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      T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
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      However I only pay like 80 bucks a month as opposed to 400+ on medical mutual. Better deductible to be sure but since I rarely use it it's a rolling the dice type situation

      Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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        And how much would it be if you weren't getting a subsidy? $800, $900, $1,000 a month?......for people not eligible for a subsidy, I don't call that affordable, plus they have that high deductible on top of that.

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          C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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          Bingo.

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            W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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            My Aetna plan was discontinued because of the ACA, they informed me after the first of the month so after 1 month uninsured I was able to switch 2 Medical Mutual. I was on their Gold Plan at approximately 750 dollars a month. At the end of that month they were forced to discontinue the Gold Plan and moved me to the silver plan at $650 a month but with a huge deductible and Big out of pocket limit.

            So for what it's worth it's done nothing but screw me.

            Well. ...

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              gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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              Free healthcare...it's the way forward.

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                Free healthcare...it's the way forward.

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                W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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                @gftchris said:

                Free healthcare...it's the way forward.

                It actually is.

                The welfare state is much like the Borg.

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                • G Gidget

                  And how much would it be if you weren't getting a subsidy? $800, $900, $1,000 a month?......for people not eligible for a subsidy, I don't call that affordable, plus they have that high deductible on top of that.

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                  T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by The Cysko Kid
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                  @gidget said:

                  And how much would it be if you weren't getting a subsidy? $800, $900, $1,000 a month?......for people not eligible for a subsidy, I don't call that affordable, plus they have that high deductible on top of that.

                  Here's the thing. I make around thirty dollars an hour and I still am eligible for a subsidy (my wife is a stay at home mom) so it you're making twice that you've got no reason to cry about not getting one. I've got one income and three dependants and we've got money to live on and save. As far as I'm concerned I'm the person obamacare is "supposed" to work for and except for the deductible it works just fine. When I'm old and having to go to the doctors constantly that may not be the case.

                  Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                    gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                    Pfffft. Emotional liberal.

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                      G Gidget wrote on last edited by
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                      Someone has to pay that subsidy.....and because you have 4 family members in your household, that income level for a subsidy is about $95,000. So if you made $95,000 annually, you'd think it was ok to pay $1,000 a month for coverage for your family, for a $12,000 deductible plan? So in essence, if you had a hospitalization in your family and had to pay the deductible of $12,000, plus the premium for that year of $12,000, you'd be ok with that?

                      Take that same $30 an hour, for a 2 member household, and the income level for a subsidy is about $62,000. So, that household isn't eligible for a subsidy, and their monthly premium for Obamacare can be anywhere from $400.00 monthly(for a young couple)- $1,000 monthly( for a couple in their 60's) for that same high deductible plan. For the young couple, not so bad, for the older couple, with probably more claims, not so good. To get good coverage, that premium shoots way up.

                      Personally, I feel the word "Affordable" should be nowhere in the "Affordable" Care Act........just my opinion, and you know what they say about opinions.

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                        DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                        Good post Gidget. Affordable my ass.

                        "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                          Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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                          Man you guys pay through the nose for healthcare.

                          "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                            C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                            It really is unsustainable. And costs are just gonna go up. Eventually a nationalized plan is going to be the only way anybody can get any kind of reasonable care. There will still be private insurance for the very wealthy, and they will get preferential treatment...something I'm 100% ok with. That's the way to go. A wealthy person will go the Dr and he'll ask them if they're going on the national plan or their own private plan.....if it's on their private plan than they'll get whatever preferential treatment is feasible. Of course there will be some far lefties screaming about that but I don't give a fuck. If you make the money to afford what will become very expensive private insurance, than that's the breaks for whomever gets bumped down because a privately insured patient got bumped up. Within reason of course. If there's someone who's about to die and has the national plan and someone who's far from dying but is private, you don't bump the privately insured up in that case. It has to be fairly equal situations.

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                            • Browns149B Browns149

                              Man you guys pay through the nose for healthcare.

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                              T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by The Cysko Kid
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                              @browns149 said:

                              Man you guys pay through the nose for healthcare.

                              The same people bitching about it have repeatedly blocked efforts to implement free or "socialized" health care. Not making a hell of a lot of sense to me.

                              Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                                W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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                                Pretty simple in this case. Follow the money. Who gets the free shit and who pays for it?

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                                  T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
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                                  If health care went to evil socialization the answer wouled be:

                                  Who gets the free shit Steve is so outraged about: everyone

                                  Who pays for it: everyone

                                  Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                                  • T The Cysko Kid

                                    If health care went to evil socialization the answer wouled be:

                                    Who gets the free shit Steve is so outraged about: everyone

                                    Who pays for it: everyone

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                                    gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                                    @the-cysko-kid said:

                                    If health care went to evil socialization the answer wouled be:

                                    Who gets the free shit Steve is so outraged about: everyone

                                    Who pays for it: everyone

                                    Well, not those in work, to be fair.

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                                    • T The Cysko Kid

                                      If health care went to evil socialization the answer wouled be:

                                      Who gets the free shit Steve is so outraged about: everyone

                                      Who pays for it: everyone

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                                      W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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                                      @the-cysko-kid said:

                                      If health care went to evil socialization the answer wouled be:

                                      Who gets the free shit Steve is so outraged about: everyone

                                      Who pays for it: everyone

                                      But of course they don't.

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                                      • W Westside Steve

                                        @the-cysko-kid said:

                                        If health care went to evil socialization the answer wouled be:

                                        Who gets the free shit Steve is so outraged about: everyone

                                        Who pays for it: everyone

                                        But of course they don't.

                                        WSS

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                                        LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                                        @westside-steve said:

                                        But of course they don't.

                                        WSS

                                        The people who don't pay into the system already get "free healthcare". They get Medicaid so they are already on the government teet.

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                                          C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                                          If health care went to evil socialization the answer wouled be:

                                          Who gets the free shit Steve is so outraged about: everyone

                                          Who pays for it: everyone Cysko

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                                          Nonsense. Who gets it? Everybody who is poor.

                                          Who pays for it? Everybody not poor.

                                          What happens? The money eventually runs out, and

                                          hc rationing happens.

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