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  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @westside-steve said:

    hey guys I have a question for anybody that knows Major League Baseball rules better than me which should be all of you. Hypothetically could a picture? also play DH in the games he's not pitching?

    WSS

    Theoretically, sure. It may have happened at some point. There have been a few pitchers that have been really good hittlers.

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    @the-gipper said:

    Theoretically, sure. It may have happened at some point. There have been a few pitchers that have been really good hittlers.

    I've seen pitchers pinch hit in games too. CC Sabathia has done a few times.

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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      gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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      So, I don't know much about the rules, but I was under the impression it was kinda like cricket and other sports like that, where you have the same 11 (or other number) out there when batting or fielding, so everyone had to do both sides - is that not the case?

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        In the American League the pitcher is not required to bat hence the designated hitter. In the national league the pitcher still bats which I think is stupid. It ought to be either one way or the other.

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          gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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          So it's just the pitcher that's optionally exempt? OK.

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            So it's just the pitcher that's optionally exempt? OK.

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            The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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            @gftchris said:

            So it's just the pitcher that's optionally exempt? OK.

            Yea, but it rarely is an option. I just heard a stat this morning where pitchers...in both leagues, are batting all of .089. (yes, that would be very very bad for a regular player). On average I suspect that DHs bat close to .300. Only with very rare exceptions would a manager allow a pitcher to bat for himself if he could use a DH.

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              gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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              Are the DHs the really fat guys that do nothing else?

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                Are the DHs the really fat guys that do nothing else?

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                @gftchris said:

                Are the DHs the really fat guys that do nothing else?

                They usually have to cart them to the plate and use a few people to prop him up. After he hits they have a designated runner to run the bases. He then gets carted to golden corral for the buffet.

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                  Are the DHs the really fat guys that do nothing else?

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                  The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                  @gftchris said:

                  Are the DHs the really fat guys that do nothing else?

                  Some guys you might call fat could really play.....including the greatest ever:

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                    2 of the top 10 pitchers got hurt batting this past week, and Adam Wainwright is out for the year.

                    The DH should be in both leagues

                    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                      gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                      Or, you should have more than one person able to pitch, maybe?

                      Not trying to go all gipper and change the rules, mind you. But in cricket, particularly the limited overs variety, each bowler (pitcher) can only bowl a maximum of 10 out of 50 overs. So, you have 5-6 people out of the 11 who can bowl. You have 7-8 of the 11 who can bat, and you have of those a few 'all-rounders'.

                      But I'm sure there are reasons baseball's the way it is and if it works, don't change it.

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                        Or, you should have more than one person able to pitch, maybe?

                        Not trying to go all gipper and change the rules, mind you. But in cricket, particularly the limited overs variety, each bowler (pitcher) can only bowl a maximum of 10 out of 50 overs. So, you have 5-6 people out of the 11 who can bowl. You have 7-8 of the 11 who can bat, and you have of those a few 'all-rounders'.

                        But I'm sure there are reasons baseball's the way it is and if it works, don't change it.

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                        The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                        @gftchris said:

                        Or, you should have more than one person able to pitch, maybe?

                        Not trying to go all gipper and change the rules, mind you. But in cricket, particularly the limited overs variety, each bowler (pitcher) can only bowl a maximum of 10 out of 50 overs. So, you have 5-6 people out of the 11 who can bowl. You have 7-8 of the 11 who can bat, and you have of those a few 'all-rounders'.

                        But I'm sure there are reasons baseball's the way it is and if it works, don't change it.

                        Well, Major League baseball is not Little League, where the best kids could play any position. But, like Little League, it is not against the rules to move players around, including the pitcher. But in MLB each player is so specialized at their positions it doesn't work well to move people around. Especially pitchers. There are specialties within a pitching staff. You have the starters, the long relief, set up men, closers. Again, no, the rules don't require this kind of specialization, it is just a fact of life now in the MLB if you want to win.

                        Except for some utility men who can fill in at multiple positions, baseball players are not "jack of all trades, master of none". They are expected to be masters of their trade.

                        Plus, every player must bat.

                        Your proposal would change the structure of the game. My simple solution for soccer, eliminating the offsides rule, is sweet and simple....and no more revolutionary than when the NFL disallowed the bump and run. It opened up the game to provide more offense.

                        That is why you see in this draft the WRs at such a premium...and the RBs relegated to a lesser role.

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                          I think the offsides rule in soccer needs to be tweaked, not totally eliminated though.

                          There should be no offsides on players in the box. But players shouldn't be able to "Cherry pick" the whole time

                          "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                            Pitchers may have to hit in the American league if the DH is lost due to substitution. DH's aren't all .300 hitters there combined average in the American League is probably closer to .270. The DH should be outlawed from baseball, pitchers would think twice about throwing a 95mph fastball at a hitter when they have to hit themselves.

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                              Pitchers may have to hit in the American league if the DH is lost due to substitution. DH's aren't all .300 hitters there combined average in the American League is probably closer to .270. The DH should be outlawed from baseball, pitchers would think twice about throwing a 95mph fastball at a hitter when they have to hit themselves.

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                              @baconhound said:

                              Pitchers may have to hit in the American league if the DH is lost due to substitution. DH's aren't all .300 hitters there combined average in the American League is probably closer to .270. The DH should be outlawed from baseball, pitchers would think twice about throwing a 95mph fastball at a hitter when they have to hit themselves.

                              the DH should be in both leagues.

                              Watching 42 year old 300lb Bartolo Colon hit is OBSCENE

                              "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                                @baconhound said:

                                Pitchers may have to hit in the American league if the DH is lost due to substitution. DH's aren't all .300 hitters there combined average in the American League is probably closer to .270. The DH should be outlawed from baseball, pitchers would think twice about throwing a 95mph fastball at a hitter when they have to hit themselves.

                                the DH should be in both leagues.

                                Watching 42 year old 300lb Bartolo Colon hit is OBSCENE

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                                @browns149 said:

                                the DH should be in both leagues.

                                Watching 42 year old 300lb Bartolo Colon hit is OBSCENE

                                Guaranteed the best hitter on almost every little league team in America is also a pitcher. They start specializing them in high school and it gets worse in professional baseball. Keep them hitting and they'll get there and then they may think twice about drilling someone.

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                                  I think the offsides rule in soccer needs to be tweaked, not totally eliminated though.

                                  There should be no offsides on players in the box. But players shouldn't be able to "Cherry pick" the whole time

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                                  @browns149 said:

                                  I think the offsides rule in soccer needs to be tweaked, not totally eliminated though.

                                  There should be no offsides on players in the box. But players shouldn't be able to "Cherry pick" the whole time

                                  A player would just stand in the box for 90 minutes

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                                    @browns149 said:

                                    I think the offsides rule in soccer needs to be tweaked, not totally eliminated though.

                                    There should be no offsides on players in the box. But players shouldn't be able to "Cherry pick" the whole time

                                    A player would just stand in the box for 90 minutes

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                                    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                    @londonbrown said:

                                    A player would just stand in the box for 90 minutes

                                    Well, just like cherry pickers in basketball, there would be ways to deal with these guys as well.

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                                      @browns149 said:

                                      I think the offsides rule in soccer needs to be tweaked, not totally eliminated though.

                                      There should be no offsides on players in the box. But players shouldn't be able to "Cherry pick" the whole time

                                      A player would just stand in the box for 90 minutes

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                                      @londonbrown said:

                                      A player would just stand in the box for 90 minutes

                                      I should have been more specific, if there is a defender in the box, then the offense shouldn't be offsides.

                                      "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                                        @londonbrown said:

                                        A player would just stand in the box for 90 minutes

                                        I should have been more specific, if there is a defender in the box, then the offense shouldn't be offsides.

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                                        @browns149 said:

                                        I should have been more specific, if there is a defender in the box, then the offense shouldn't be offsides.

                                        Seeing the defense step forward and play an offsides "trap" is lame IMO

                                        "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                                          hey guys I have a question for anybody that knows Major League Baseball rules better than me which should be all of you. Hypothetically could a picture also play DH in the games he's not pitching?

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                                          @westside-steve said:

                                          hey guys I have a question for anybody that knows Major League Baseball rules better than me which should be all of you. Hypothetically could a pitcher also play DH in the games he's not pitching?

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