Shane Ray arrested for DUI and Marijuana possession.
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He was my favorite pass rusher in the draft? Now... no thank you.
Was wondering what youd say cause I knew you had him high......me too....he was on my short list for 12.......moving him down now.....(im still interested at 19 tho)
And I just took Ray at 12 in my latest FirstPick sim...
Had him in my portfolio till I saw the news late last night........sold that bitch in about 30 seconds.......and he dropped 170k over night.....
Yowza!
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Well Pettine and Farmer believe "You Can't Have all Choirboys on Your Team" But evaluate player's Issues.. Well the list is getting longer with Talent?? WOW !!!
Well Pettine and Farmer believe "You Can't Have all Choirboys on Your Team" But evaluate player's Issues.. Well the list is getting longer with Talent?? WOW !!!
When did they say this?
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one problem that this may cause is that he is a pass rusher and was expected to go pretty high(top 10 possibly)....which would have been one of the picks used to push Shelton back our way......so, thats one less defensive guy to put ahead of our guy.....which isnt good(for us)
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Hes future is fucked up. But i think the NFL have handle thinks like this better
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Hes future is fucked up. But i think the NFL have handle thinks like this better
Hes future is fucked up. But i think the NFL have handle thinks like this better
but he isn't in the NFL yet.
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Awesome.....top 10 talent in rd 2.
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The amount of overreaction on this board is fucking crazy.
Ray was not arrested - he was cited. He was pulled over for speeding, the police officer found a personal amount of unsmoked marijuana in his car and wrote him a citation. He was cooperative. He was not impaired. He was not detained. He was given a misdemeanor possession and has to appear in court.
It's the same thing your 16 year old son gets when cops pull him over and find a dime bag. Is your 16 year old a scumbag? Are you ready to write him off?
Hopefully he falls to the early second and we can grab him there, but he won't. That's top-10 talent and a team like Denver or Seattle will pick him up in a heartbeat...because they're not shitty pussies.
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i don't agree with the marijuana laws in this country which in turn means the NFL as well BUT it's really not about that. it's about the fact that in 2 days you're supposed to be in chicago in a suit waiting to get called from an NFL team to start your new career and the last thing THE VERY FUCKING LAST THING you should be around in those 2 days up to that is drugs and bars and everything involved with it.
having weed on him is no big deal on a law enforcement level but how fucking STOOPID do you have to be to get popped with it? speeding with weed in your pocket is not a very bright thing to do no matter who you are.
a scumbag? no. a fucking dolt? yes.
so you're a fan of shitty pussies? cuz you seem to be on here an awful lot.
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My Shelton/Ray first round might happen, let's do this!
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The amount of overreaction on this board is fucking crazy.
Ray was not arrested - he was cited. He was pulled over for speeding, the police officer found a personal amount of unsmoked marijuana in his car and wrote him a citation. He was cooperative. He was not impaired. He was not detained. He was given a misdemeanor possession and has to appear in court.
It's the same thing your 16 year old son gets when cops pull him over and find a dime bag. Is your 16 year old a scumbag? Are you ready to write him off?
Hopefully he falls to the early second and we can grab him there, but he won't. That's top-10 talent and a team like Denver or Seattle will pick him up in a heartbeat...because they're not shitty pussies.
The amount of overreaction on this board is fucking crazy.
Ray was not arrested - he was cited. He was pulled over for speeding, the police officer found a personal amount of unsmoked marijuana in his car and wrote him a citation. He was cooperative. He was not impaired. He was not detained. He was given a misdemeanor possession and has to appear in court.
It's the same thing your 16 year old son gets when cops pull him over and find a dime bag. Is your 16 year old a scumbag? Are you ready to write him off?
Hopefully he falls to the early second and we can grab him there, but he won't. That's top-10 talent and a team like Denver or Seattle will pick him up in a heartbeat...because they're not shitty pussies.
I mean, I don't think a bunch of people are against this point. But, I can still say it's beyond stupid for the dude to be within a mile of weed or any other substance so close to a life changing moment in the draft. That small mistake is probably going to cost him millions in money.
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i don't agree with the marijuana laws in this country which in turn means the NFL as well BUT it's really not about that. it's about the fact that in 2 days you're supposed to be in chicago in a suit waiting to get called from an NFL team to start your new career and the last thing THE VERY FUCKING LAST THING you should be around in those 2 days up to that is drugs and bars and everything involved with it.
having weed on him is no big deal on a law enforcement level but how fucking STOOPID do you have to be to get popped with it? speeding with weed in your pocket is not a very bright thing to do no matter who you are.
a scumbag? no. a fucking dolt? yes.
so you're a fan of shitty pussies? cuz you seem to be on here an awful lot.
i don't agree with the marijuana laws in this country which in turn means the NFL as well BUT it's really not about that. it's about the fact that in 2 days you're supposed to be in chicago in a suit waiting to get called from an NFL team to start your new career and the last thing THE VERY FUCKING LAST THING you should be around in those 2 days up to that is drugs and bars and everything involved with it.
having weed on him is no big deal on a law enforcement level but how fucking STOOPID do you have to be to get popped with it? speeding with weed in your pocket is not a very bright thing to do no matter who you are.
a scumbag? no. a fucking dolt? yes.
so you're a fan of shitty pussies? cuz you seem to be on here an awful lot.
Once again, who said he was in a bar? And, even if he was, the time he was pulled over (6 a.m.) leads me to believe that, even if he were out, he went somewhere to sober up before driving. This title is completely misleading and erroneous. No DUI. No arrest. He showed zero signs of impairment. He didn't resist.
Further, they found less than 30 grams in one of his compartments, not his pocket. Unsmoked. He wasn't leaving a bar and hotboxing his car. He wasn't speeding and swerving and smoking weed.
So, at the most, he went out to some bars, sobered up for four hours, then got caught speeding with a minimal amount of marijuana that he probably bought from one of his friends to celebrate being drafted.
I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride -
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The amount of overreaction on this board is fucking crazy.
Ray was not arrested - he was cited. He was pulled over for speeding, the police officer found a personal amount of unsmoked marijuana in his car and wrote him a citation. He was cooperative. He was not impaired. He was not detained. He was given a misdemeanor possession and has to appear in court.
It's the same thing your 16 year old son gets when cops pull him over and find a dime bag. Is your 16 year old a scumbag? Are you ready to write him off?
Hopefully he falls to the early second and we can grab him there, but he won't. That's top-10 talent and a team like Denver or Seattle will pick him up in a heartbeat...because they're not shitty pussies.
The amount of overreaction on this board is fucking crazy.
Im guessing Irony?
Cause overreacting to people overreacting when few are actually overreacting is really overreacting, isnt it?
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The amount of overreaction on this board is fucking crazy.
Dude is gonna lose like 15 million bucks....up in smoke, literally.
I mean, I don't care about the dope....but being so stupid as to put that kind of money in jeopardy says a lot about the guys intellect...or lack thereof, if nothing else.
You know who is tearing his hair out? His agent.....his parents. (Imagine the house he could have bought them with the now up in smoke signing bonus)
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My Shelton/Ray first round might happen, let's do this!
My Shelton/Ray first round might happen, let's do this!
I could see that...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
My Shelton/Ray first round might happen, let's do this!
I could see that...
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The amount of overreaction on this board is fucking crazy.
Im guessing Irony?
Cause overreacting to people overreacting when few are actually overreacting is really overreacting, isnt it?
Im guessing Irony?
Cause overreacting to people overreacting when few are actually overreacting is really overreacting, isnt it?
See the comment immediately following yours.
Questioning a guy's intellect over a very minimal amount of marijuana...that's overreacting.
Smart teams look at this and go..."oh, well that sucks." Not "fuck this guy, he's a cancer, I don't want no weed smoker on my team, he's gonna bring the locker room down." That's why Ray will likely go to a playoff team in the end of the first round and we'll be standing around with our thumbs up our asses saying "at least we don't got no gotdamn weed smokers".
I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride -
i don't agree with the marijuana laws in this country which in turn means the NFL as well BUT it's really not about that. it's about the fact that in 2 days you're supposed to be in chicago in a suit waiting to get called from an NFL team to start your new career and the last thing THE VERY FUCKING LAST THING you should be around in those 2 days up to that is drugs and bars and everything involved with it.
having weed on him is no big deal on a law enforcement level but how fucking STOOPID do you have to be to get popped with it? speeding with weed in your pocket is not a very bright thing to do no matter who you are.
a scumbag? no. a fucking dolt? yes.
so you're a fan of shitty pussies? cuz you seem to be on here an awful lot.
Once again, who said he was in a bar? And, even if he was, the time he was pulled over (6 a.m.) leads me to believe that, even if he were out, he went somewhere to sober up before driving. This title is completely misleading and erroneous. No DUI. No arrest. He showed zero signs of impairment. He didn't resist.
Further, they found less than 30 grams in one of his compartments, not his pocket. Unsmoked. He wasn't leaving a bar and hotboxing his car. He wasn't speeding and swerving and smoking weed.
So, at the most, he went out to some bars, sobered up for four hours, then got caught speeding with a minimal amount of marijuana that he probably bought from one of his friends to celebrate being drafted.
Once again, who said he was in a bar? And, even if he was, the time he was pulled over (6 a.m.) leads me to believe that, even if he were out, he went somewhere to sober up before driving. This title is completely misleading and erroneous. No DUI. No arrest. He showed zero signs of impairment. He didn't resist.
Further, they found less than 30 grams in one of his compartments, not his pocket. Unsmoked. He wasn't leaving a bar and hotboxing his car. He wasn't speeding and swerving and smoking weed.
So, at the most, he went out to some bars, sobered up for four hours, then got caught speeding with a minimal amount of marijuana that he probably bought from one of his friends to celebrate being drafted.
read my post again. i said the last place he needs to be is around drugs or a bar. i didn't say he was in a bar. i don't know where he was at. speeding with anything illegal on you, in the car, whatever is just stupid. you're inviting the cops to pull you over and discover what you don't want to discover.
shows very bad decision making.
now would that stop me from taking him @19? good question. if you think he only did this once (well we know that's not true) or his behavior can be modified in the weed smoking category, then yeah i'd take him. someone said today on one of the shows that there are over 200 good qualityplayers going to the nfl draft and only one got caught with weed 3 days before the event.
my biggest point in all these stupid weed cases in the NFL is: the guy does you no good if he can't play.
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Ok......i see both sides and have zero issues with weed and people who smoke it....wish it was just legal and all this crap would go away.....also still want to pick him myself(as already stated above)......I guess when I read the thread, I looked to me like MOST people were saying "oh well, that sucks"...and.... "that'll cost him"...which are both fair to say...
And i only see a couple actually saying fuck him or calling him a scumbag(well, no one actually called him anything except stupid).....
which is a fairly valid argument too......I mean, you cant say it's "smart" to get busted for drugs the biggest week of your life.....so, its fair.....
And Im not sure how those few opinions on this board mean that now all the GM's in the league agree and will pass .....except Seattle and NE????
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Im guessing Irony?
Cause overreacting to people overreacting when few are actually overreacting is really overreacting, isnt it?
See the comment immediately following yours.
Questioning a guy's intellect over a very minimal amount of marijuana...that's overreacting.
Smart teams look at this and go..."oh, well that sucks." Not "fuck this guy, he's a cancer, I don't want no weed smoker on my team, he's gonna bring the locker room down." That's why Ray will likely go to a playoff team in the end of the first round and we'll be standing around with our thumbs up our asses saying "at least we don't got no gotdamn weed smokers".
Smart teams look at this and go..."oh, well that sucks." Not "fuck this guy, he's a cancer, I don't want no weed smoker on my team, he's gonna bring the locker room down." That's why Ray will likely go to a playoff team in the end of the first round and we'll be standing around with our thumbs up our asses saying "at least we don't got no gotdamn weed smokers".
considering we have a pro bowl WR that hasn't seen the field in for however and won't see it again for another season, would you want a 'weed smoker' on your team?
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