Browns looking to move up to 5th
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So Farmer calls Washington and says, "Hey, on Thursday if insert player name (Mariota, Shelton, Cooper) is still on the board at number 5, what do you want for the pick??" If a GM called another GM and said that, they should be fired on the spot.
I doubt that any names are being inserted......I think its more likely him saying "Hey, depending on what happens, are you guys looking to move back?.....if so, what would you take for the pick?".....
No ones showing their cards....but they all are laying the ground work for plan A, B C and D......(well, at least the smart ones)
I doubt that any names are being inserted......I think its more likely him saying "Hey, depending on what happens, are you guys looking to move back?.....if so, what would you take for the pick?".....
No ones showing their cards....but they all are laying the ground work for plan A, B C and D......(well, at least the smart ones)
I get checking in and doing some recon, but my thing is, how in the world would any team know what they want for their pick today? The market will set the price 20 mins before they make the pick depending on who is on the board. Just seems like a waste of time to call anybody.
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Ballpark value assessment...
Early mating dance ritual...
Excuse to call...
Take your pick.
NFL GMs are an exclusive club. They chat. They try to pick up reads. They try to misdirect.
And as are we... they are ready for Thursday night.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
well, I guess without overly debating it.....you need to know who's gonna be a willing participant and who is not even interested....
Once the clock starts, do you have time to start making 10 separate calls?.....again, no ones making deals or talking specifics....just generalities and who's game and who's not.....making friends, so to speak....
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Ballpark value assessment...
Early mating dance ritual...
Excuse to call...
Take your pick.
NFL GMs are an exclusive club. They chat. They try to pick up reads. They try to misdirect.
And as are we... they are ready for Thursday night.
Ballpark value assessment...
Early mating dance ritual...
Excuse to call...
Take your pick.
NFL GMs are an exclusive club. They chat. They try to pick up reads. They try to misdirect.
And as are we... they are ready for Thursday night.
I hope Ray Farmer gets to call someone a "pancake eating motherfucker" on draft night.
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If it wasn't expensive, I'd trade up to make sure the Browns got Shelton.
But both 1st round picks this year?
No.
If it wasn't expensive, I'd trade up to make sure the Browns got Shelton.
But both 1st round picks this year?
No.
They had better not trade away both first round picks. Farmer has a history of stockpiling picks, not trading them away. The only conceivable way we want Washington's pick is if MM isn't taken by the Titans- or some other team trading up, and he falls that far. (Unlikely) . Even so, the Jets sitting at #6 can offer a much more attractive package- like their #6 overall- drop one spot- and a second or third rounder.
Honestly, if we don't get Mariota I'm going to be rather disappointed bc I believe he's the guy the Browns want
Please, they may want Mariota- but IMHO the asking price is going to be way too high. Dealing with the Titans, it's going to be both firsts this year, plus a first next year. Shades of RG III- barf.
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I honestly think if we trade up it's for Williams at 4 or 5, depending on what Oakland do.
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I honestly think if we trade up it's for Williams at 4 or 5, depending on what Oakland do.
I honestly think if we trade up it's for Williams at 4 or 5, depending on what Oakland do.
You know Im with ya that the trade may net us some defense(Williams/Beasley/Fowler)(not sure who they covet most)......and Id say "I really like it"......IF they find a way to do it with 19 and still keep 12......and there are reasonable ways....that would be sweet
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i like mariota but not at that price. everyone who's opinion i respect said the kid is a project. i know there's some type of relationship there with philipino but we don't run anything close to what he ran in oregon. how would this be a good fit?
plus the opportunity to pick up 2 (TWO) beasts on D and finish that side of the ball would be to tempting to me given the defensive bkgds farmer and pettine have.
keep them and use them. that's the reason you got the picks.
wouldn't us moving up to get mariota be like washington moving up to get RG3? we all know how that fucked up their franchise.
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Surely if we intended to give up picks and move up we would of been more active in FA
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I wouldn't trade up for Shelton when there's Malcom Brown and Eddie Goldman. If history keeps repeating itself with the first round failures then it's insane. Stay put and take the best player available. Most teams do, why not us?
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I wouldn't trade up for Shelton when there's Malcom Brown and Eddie Goldman. If history keeps repeating itself with the first round failures then it's insane. Stay put and take the best player available. Most teams do, why not us?
I wouldn't trade up for Shelton when there's Malcom Brown and Eddie Goldman. If history keeps repeating itself with the first round failures then it's insane. Stay put and take the best player available. Most teams do, why not us?
Because we are not like most teams ...we do things the Brown's way....that's why we suck
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If it wasn't expensive, I'd trade up to make sure the Browns got Shelton.
But both 1st round picks this year?
No.
They had better not trade away both first round picks. Farmer has a history of stockpiling picks, not trading them away. The only conceivable way we want Washington's pick is if MM isn't taken by the Titans- or some other team trading up, and he falls that far. (Unlikely) . Even so, the Jets sitting at #6 can offer a much more attractive package- like their #6 overall- drop one spot- and a second or third rounder.
Honestly, if we don't get Mariota I'm going to be rather disappointed bc I believe he's the guy the Browns want
Please, they may want Mariota- but IMHO the asking price is going to be way too high. Dealing with the Titans, it's going to be both firsts this year, plus a first next year. Shades of RG III- barf.
Please, they may want Mariota- but IMHO the asking price is going to be way too high. Dealing with the Titans, it's going to be both firsts this year, plus a first next year. Shades of RG III- barf.
If you read the reports (and believe them) they already declined to send both 1sts and this year's 2nd. So, why would they add another 1st rounder to do it... I'm hoping the Titans take somebody other than Mariota so then we can get him at a better value.
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like December 23rd to little kids.
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The worst part is I'll be on a plane from about 8:30-10:30-forunately with wifi I can see the pick if the Browns are in that timeframe. Just a heads up if you hear a news story about an irate Browns fan being hauled of a plane, that's me haha.
The worst part is I'll be on a plane from about 8:30-10:30-forunately with wifi I can see the pick if the Browns are in that timeframe. Just a heads up if you hear a news story about an irate Browns fan being hauled of a plane, that's me haha.
Just remember its a Federal Crime. When convicted you serve a minimum of 85%, No half good time. Just looking out my brother
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Word on Monday morning was that the Redskins were likely to pick up the 2016 option on quarterback Robert Griffin III’s option and it moved to a done deal in the middle of the day.
Redskins General Manager Scot McCloughan announced that the team is exercising their option on Griffin’s pick ahead of the May 3 deadline to do so. The move puts Griffin in position to earn just over $16 million in 2016, which the Redskins can rescind if Griffin is healthy but the option is guaranteed against injury.
That’s not a small concern for a player who has dealt with serious injuries in his three-year NFL career, although Griffin insisted this month that the option question wasn’t a big concern for him. Instead, Griffin said that he’s focused on improving his performance after two rough seasons.
“It’s not about talking about it; It’s about being about it,” Griffin said. “That’s what my goal is this entire offseason. You got to talk small, play big, take care of the little things for the big things and everything will fall into place.”
Given the price they paid to acquire Griffin and their willingness to exercise the option, the team surely hopes that everything does fall into place. Despite that, McCloughan said Monday that the decision doesn’t change the team’s draft strategy and that they’d still pick a quarterback with the fifth pick if that’s the best available player.
Id say this thread is dead after this news
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With all of the Redskins needs, I don't see them trading out. They have legit chance of nailing a franchise player in Fowler, Shelton, Beasley...all guys that fit their 3-4.
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well all news today on the redskins front is they floated the story out there for any GM that they are willing to trade out of the 5th.
the griffin trade left their team decimated. the new GM wants to rebuild and needs more picks to do that.
this is another ply by a GM to let everyone know that they will accept a deal but they prob want what they gave up to get griffin and in no way if i were a GM would i do that unless the other team is desperate for a player there. i don't see the browns as that team.
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well all news today on the redskins front is they floated the story out there for any GM that they are willing to trade out of the 5th.
the griffin trade left their team decimated. the new GM wants to rebuild and needs more picks to do that.
this is another ply by a GM to let everyone know that they will accept a deal but they prob want what they gave up to get griffin and in no way if i were a GM would i do that unless the other team is desperate for a player there. i don't see the browns as that team.
well all news today on the redskins front is they floated the story out there for any GM that they are willing to trade out of the 5th.
the griffin trade left their team decimated. the new GM wants to rebuild and needs more picks to do that.
this is another ply by a GM to let everyone know that they will accept a deal but they prob want what they gave up to get griffin and in no way if i were a GM would i do that unless the other team is desperate for a player there. i don't see the browns as that team.
If we weren't 100% on Mariota, I'd give up Manziel, #12, #19 and #76 (total=2285) for RG3, #5 and #37 (total = 2230 points).
Then I'd turn around and sell #5, #108 and a 2016 second to SD for their #17, #49 (1778) and a 2016 first round pick. (1360 points + future first round pick).
Then we'd have #17, #37, #44, #49, two 2016 first round picks and RG3 instead of #12, #19, and #44 and Manziel.
We could get a solid DT, a solid WR, a solid OL, and a solid LB with our first four picks, give RG3 one season and then go for Cardale if we need to.
The scenarios are only going to get worse the closer we get to Thursday.
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Couch, that's good stuff.
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Please, they may want Mariota- but IMHO the asking price is going to be way too high. Dealing with the Titans, it's going to be both firsts this year, plus a first next year. Shades of RG III- barf.
If you read the reports (and believe them) they already declined to send both 1sts and this year's 2nd. So, why would they add another 1st rounder to do it... I'm hoping the Titans take somebody other than Mariota so then we can get him at a better value.
If you read the reports (and believe them) they already declined to send both 1sts and this year's 2nd. So, why would they add another 1st rounder to do it... I'm hoping the Titans take somebody other than Mariota so then we can get him at a better value.
We have no idea what was offered- if anything. I doubt any reporting service does either. Pre draft smoke.
If we weren't 100% on Mariota, I'd give up Manziel, #12, #19 and #76 (total=2285) for RG3, #5 and #37 (total = 2230 points).
Then I'd turn around and sell #5, #108 and a 2016 second to SD for their #17, #49 (1778) and a 2016 first round pick. (1360 points + future first round pick).
Then we'd have #17, #37, #44, #49, two 2016 first round picks and RG3 instead of #12, #19, and #44 and Manziel.
We could get a solid DT, a solid WR, a solid OL, and a solid LB with our first four picks, give RG3 one season and then go for Cardale if we need to.
The scenarios are only going to get worse the closer we get to Thursday.
You must have enjoyed Draft Day. I don't have the energy anymore to dream up scenarios that have about a 1% chance of happening.
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