Shane Ray arrested for DUI and Marijuana possession.
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Ok......i see both sides and have zero issues with weed and people who smoke it....wish it was just legal and all this crap would go away.....also still want to pick him myself(as already stated above)......I guess when I read the thread, I looked to me like MOST people were saying "oh well, that sucks"...and.... "that'll cost him"...which are both fair to say...
And i only see a couple actually saying fuck him or calling him a scumbag(well, no one actually called him anything except stupid).....
which is a fairly valid argument too......I mean, you cant say it's "smart" to get busted for drugs the biggest week of your life.....so, its fair.....
And Im not sure how those few opinions on this board mean that now all the GM's in the league agree and will pass .....except Seattle and NE????
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Im guessing Irony?
Cause overreacting to people overreacting when few are actually overreacting is really overreacting, isnt it?
See the comment immediately following yours.
Questioning a guy's intellect over a very minimal amount of marijuana...that's overreacting.
Smart teams look at this and go..."oh, well that sucks." Not "fuck this guy, he's a cancer, I don't want no weed smoker on my team, he's gonna bring the locker room down." That's why Ray will likely go to a playoff team in the end of the first round and we'll be standing around with our thumbs up our asses saying "at least we don't got no gotdamn weed smokers".
Smart teams look at this and go..."oh, well that sucks." Not "fuck this guy, he's a cancer, I don't want no weed smoker on my team, he's gonna bring the locker room down." That's why Ray will likely go to a playoff team in the end of the first round and we'll be standing around with our thumbs up our asses saying "at least we don't got no gotdamn weed smokers".
considering we have a pro bowl WR that hasn't seen the field in for however and won't see it again for another season, would you want a 'weed smoker' on your team?
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Once again, who said he was in a bar? And, even if he was, the time he was pulled over (6 a.m.) leads me to believe that, even if he were out, he went somewhere to sober up before driving. This title is completely misleading and erroneous. No DUI. No arrest. He showed zero signs of impairment. He didn't resist.
Further, they found less than 30 grams in one of his compartments, not his pocket. Unsmoked. He wasn't leaving a bar and hotboxing his car. He wasn't speeding and swerving and smoking weed.
So, at the most, he went out to some bars, sobered up for four hours, then got caught speeding with a minimal amount of marijuana that he probably bought from one of his friends to celebrate being drafted.
read my post again. i said the last place he needs to be is around drugs or a bar. i didn't say he was in a bar. i don't know where he was at. speeding with anything illegal on you, in the car, whatever is just stupid. you're inviting the cops to pull you over and discover what you don't want to discover.
shows very bad decision making.
now would that stop me from taking him @19? good question. if you think he only did this once (well we know that's not true) or his behavior can be modified in the weed smoking category, then yeah i'd take him. someone said today on one of the shows that there are over 200 good qualityplayers going to the nfl draft and only one got caught with weed 3 days before the event.
my biggest point in all these stupid weed cases in the NFL is: the guy does you no good if he can't play.
my biggest point in all these stupid weed cases in the NFL is: the guy does you no good if he can't play.
Thats it......
I dont know how this will work with Ray, since he just got a ticket and wasnt tested......and that will be the difference for me....
Gregory tested bad at the combine and now has be placed in the NFL subtance abuse program, so he already has a strike before ever stepping on the field.....I wouldnt want to draft a guy with a strike with a high pick.....but would gamble a little later for sure....
Ray???...I dont know.....if they put him in the program now(giving him a strike) then his value drops a lot....if they dont put him in the program(the value drops less).....unfortunately, we wont know if he's getting penalized by the NFL until after you pick him......
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So, Dion Jordan is suspended all of next season. Picked three spots ahead of Mingo - I guess it could have been worse for us
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And Shane Ray's foot might need surgery. Don't draft this guy until way later. Randy Gregory will be a solid player if he stays off the weed.
And yes, Polian said Shelton was a bad pick for the Browns. He said something like nobody that slow has ever been successful in the NFL.
BROWNS draft La'el Collins and Eddie Goldman and Devin Smith
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No more druggies. Next.....
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What was the PC to search his rig?
According to the report, the officer could smell the marijuana. However, that's kind of sketchy...since it was a tiny amount and it was supposedly in his glove compartment. I'd say the PC to search was the fact that Ray was a non-white who got caught speeding at 6 a.m.
considering we have a pro bowl WR that hasn't seen the field in for however and won't see it again for another season, would you want a 'weed smoker' on your team?
News for you...there's probably 15 or more of them already on the team. Recreational use was at over 10% back in 2009. I'm sure it's MUCH higher today.
Gordon failed multiple drug tests and multiple colleges, then multiple tests in the NFL. Ray failed one, early in his career at Mizzou. One in three years...compared with three in one year - definitely sounds like he's in the same ring as Gordon.
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you still don't get it. i never said he's in the same 'ring' as gordon.
i'm saying why take the chance is all?
sure there prob 75% weed smokers in the league. you know the difference between them, randy gregory and shane ray are? they're smart enought to know when they get tested and stop doing stoopid shit when they have to. other players are too dumb or they don't care.
which one is ray?
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I hope that was good stuff he had, because he will pay dearly for it in lost money. What he did was not morally bad, legal in some places in fact, but I would not select him,just for being that stupid. Same goes for guys testing positive at the combine, knowing they are going to be tested. My theory is that anyone with judgement that poor would do something worse later anyway. If I were in their position I would become a temporary celibate Mormon.
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Oh yeah I'm sure it was some racist cop....
That's not necessarily a racist thing. Profiling isn't racist when it's accurate...it's only racist when someone takes offense to an innocent black man getting in trouble. Age, race, demeanor, time of day, nature of the infraction that caused him to originally be pulled - all of those are contributing factors to probable cause, in my opinion.
Ray wasn't innocent by any means, but he doesn't give off the vibe of some scumbag idiot who can't keep his life in line. He came from garbage, has gone through absolute hell and has been relatively clean his entire career with a small misstep along the way. That doesn't make him a persona non grata to me. Would I take him at 12? No. Nor would I at 19. But if he's available in the second...why the hell not?
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you still don't get it. i never said he's in the same 'ring' as gordon.
i'm saying why take the chance is all?
sure there prob 75% weed smokers in the league. you know the difference between them, randy gregory and shane ray are? they're smart enought to know when they get tested and stop doing stoopid shit when they have to. other players are too dumb or they don't care.
which one is ray?
you still don't get it. i never said he's in the same 'ring' as gordon.
i'm saying why take the chance is all?
sure there prob 75% weed smokers in the league. you know the difference between them, randy gregory and shane ray are? they're smart enought to know when they get tested and stop doing stoopid shit when they have to. other players are too dumb or they don't care.
which was is ray?
Because he's a top-10 talent. If you can get him in the second for a relatively minor infraction, why wouldn't you? If you're gonna bargain basement shop, you gotta do it right.
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So, Dion Jordan is suspended all of next season. Picked three spots ahead of Mingo - I guess it could have been worse for us
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When did they say this?
First OTA News Conference when Gregory got stupid. Cleveland.com videos
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And Shane Ray's foot might need surgery. Don't draft this guy until way later. Randy Gregory will be a solid player if he stays off the weed.
And yes, Polian said Shelton was a bad pick for the Browns. He said something like nobody that slow has ever been successful in the NFL.
BROWNS draft La'el Collins and Eddie Goldman and Devin Smith
And yes, Polian said Shelton was a bad pick for the Browns. He said something like nobody that slow has ever been successful in the NFL.
BROWNS draft La'el Collins and Eddie Goldman and Devin Smith
Compared to La'el at 29 to the Colts in last nite's NFL Nation Mock, Polian practically loved our reporter's pick of Shelton at 12. Bill doesn't think La'el has the feet to play in space and lacks the drive to play inside.
He liked Goldman to the Pats at 32 and is in absolute love with Smith... wherever he is taken, which in the mock was at 25 to the Panthers. Wanted us to take him at 19...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
And yes, Polian said Shelton was a bad pick for the Browns. He said something like nobody that slow has ever been successful in the NFL.
BROWNS draft La'el Collins and Eddie Goldman and Devin Smith
Compared to La'el at 29 to the Colts in last nite's NFL Nation Mock, Polian practically loved our reporter's pick of Shelton at 12. Bill doesn't think La'el has the feet to play in space and lacks the drive to play inside.
He liked Goldman to the Pats at 32 and is in absolute love with Smith... wherever he is taken, which in the mock was at 25 to the Panthers. Wanted us to take him at 19...
Compared to La'el at 29 to the Colts in last nite's NFL Nation Mock, Polian practically loved our reporter's pick of Shelton at 12. Bill doesn't think La'el has the feet to play in space and lacks the drive to play inside.
He liked Goldman to the Pats at 32 and is in absolute love with Smith... wherever he is taken, which in the mock was at 25 to the Panthers. Wanted us to take him at 19...
La'el Collins is now wanted for questioning in the murder of a pregnant woman.
I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride -
I can see it now: 12: Randy Gregory 19: Shane Ray 43: Dorial Green-beckham. Get willie Nelson and snoop dogg to sing the national anthem at the home opener and all is well.
I can see it now: 12: Randy Gregory 19: Shane Ray 43: Dorial Green-beckham. Get willie Nelson and snoop dogg to sing the national anthem at the home opener and all is well.
Nailed it.
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Compared to La'el at 29 to the Colts in last nite's NFL Nation Mock, Polian practically loved our reporter's pick of Shelton at 12. Bill doesn't think La'el has the feet to play in space and lacks the drive to play inside.
He liked Goldman to the Pats at 32 and is in absolute love with Smith... wherever he is taken, which in the mock was at 25 to the Panthers. Wanted us to take him at 19...
La'el Collins is now wanted for questioning in the murder of a pregnant woman.
La'el Collins is now wanted for questioning in the murder of a pregnant woman.
pregnant with triplets on their way to baltimore.
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