Browns looking to move up to 5th
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well all news today on the redskins front is they floated the story out there for any GM that they are willing to trade out of the 5th.
the griffin trade left their team decimated. the new GM wants to rebuild and needs more picks to do that.
this is another ply by a GM to let everyone know that they will accept a deal but they prob want what they gave up to get griffin and in no way if i were a GM would i do that unless the other team is desperate for a player there. i don't see the browns as that team.
well all news today on the redskins front is they floated the story out there for any GM that they are willing to trade out of the 5th.
the griffin trade left their team decimated. the new GM wants to rebuild and needs more picks to do that.
this is another ply by a GM to let everyone know that they will accept a deal but they prob want what they gave up to get griffin and in no way if i were a GM would i do that unless the other team is desperate for a player there. i don't see the browns as that team.
If we weren't 100% on Mariota, I'd give up Manziel, #12, #19 and #76 (total=2285) for RG3, #5 and #37 (total = 2230 points).
Then I'd turn around and sell #5, #108 and a 2016 second to SD for their #17, #49 (1778) and a 2016 first round pick. (1360 points + future first round pick).
Then we'd have #17, #37, #44, #49, two 2016 first round picks and RG3 instead of #12, #19, and #44 and Manziel.
We could get a solid DT, a solid WR, a solid OL, and a solid LB with our first four picks, give RG3 one season and then go for Cardale if we need to.
The scenarios are only going to get worse the closer we get to Thursday.
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Couch, that's good stuff.
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Please, they may want Mariota- but IMHO the asking price is going to be way too high. Dealing with the Titans, it's going to be both firsts this year, plus a first next year. Shades of RG III- barf.
If you read the reports (and believe them) they already declined to send both 1sts and this year's 2nd. So, why would they add another 1st rounder to do it... I'm hoping the Titans take somebody other than Mariota so then we can get him at a better value.
If you read the reports (and believe them) they already declined to send both 1sts and this year's 2nd. So, why would they add another 1st rounder to do it... I'm hoping the Titans take somebody other than Mariota so then we can get him at a better value.
We have no idea what was offered- if anything. I doubt any reporting service does either. Pre draft smoke.
If we weren't 100% on Mariota, I'd give up Manziel, #12, #19 and #76 (total=2285) for RG3, #5 and #37 (total = 2230 points).
Then I'd turn around and sell #5, #108 and a 2016 second to SD for their #17, #49 (1778) and a 2016 first round pick. (1360 points + future first round pick).
Then we'd have #17, #37, #44, #49, two 2016 first round picks and RG3 instead of #12, #19, and #44 and Manziel.
We could get a solid DT, a solid WR, a solid OL, and a solid LB with our first four picks, give RG3 one season and then go for Cardale if we need to.
The scenarios are only going to get worse the closer we get to Thursday.
You must have enjoyed Draft Day. I don't have the energy anymore to dream up scenarios that have about a 1% chance of happening.
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Mik: Believe every line but that last one if Mariota still on Board.. Couch: Don't believe JF on a rookie contract is going anywhere, Should not have seen the field last season.. 7moses: Picks next season great, would love to see 6-7 Solid Quality picks out of Draft, most of those targets we have enough to move up..
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If you read the reports (and believe them) they already declined to send both 1sts and this year's 2nd. So, why would they add another 1st rounder to do it... I'm hoping the Titans take somebody other than Mariota so then we can get him at a better value.
We have no idea what was offered- if anything. I doubt any reporting service does either. Pre draft smoke.
If we weren't 100% on Mariota, I'd give up Manziel, #12, #19 and #76 (total=2285) for RG3, #5 and #37 (total = 2230 points).
Then I'd turn around and sell #5, #108 and a 2016 second to SD for their #17, #49 (1778) and a 2016 first round pick. (1360 points + future first round pick).
Then we'd have #17, #37, #44, #49, two 2016 first round picks and RG3 instead of #12, #19, and #44 and Manziel.
We could get a solid DT, a solid WR, a solid OL, and a solid LB with our first four picks, give RG3 one season and then go for Cardale if we need to.
The scenarios are only going to get worse the closer we get to Thursday.
You must have enjoyed Draft Day. I don't have the energy anymore to dream up scenarios that have about a 1% chance of happening.
We have no idea what was offered- if anything. I doubt any reporting service does either. Pre draft smoke.
You must have enjoyed Draft Day. I don't have the energy anymore to dream up scenarios that have about a 1% chance of happening.
I'd say less than 1%.
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I'd say less than 1%.
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With all of the Redskins needs, I don't see them trading out. They have legit chance of nailing a franchise player in Fowler, Shelton, Beasley...all guys that fit their 3-4.
With all of the Redskins needs, I don't see them trading out. They have legit chance of nailing a franchise player in Fowler, Shelton, Beasley...all guys that fit their 3-4.
When you have more needs, you need more picks. That's why WSH would deal their #5.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
With all of the Redskins needs, I don't see them trading out. They have legit chance of nailing a franchise player in Fowler, Shelton, Beasley...all guys that fit their 3-4.
When you have more needs, you need more picks. That's why WSH would deal their #5.
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Latest rumors have us moving to 9 ......trading with the Giants ..... how much would we have to give up to move 3 spots in the draft...imagine if its the 19 we are giving up and are trying for 2 picks in top 12
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Well luckily the Browns are all set except for one long shot rookie gimmick system quarterback...Exactly. I don't foresee them being one defensive franchise player away from winning the East. But two to four solid starters could easily make a difference.
So we can flush as many draft picks down the crapper as we like.
WSS
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Well luckily the Browns are all set except for one long shot rookie gimmick system quarterback...Exactly. I don't foresee them being one defensive franchise player away from winning the East. But two to four solid starters could easily make a difference.
So we can flush as many draft picks down the crapper as we like.
WSS
Well luckily the Browns are all set except for one long shot rookie gimmick system quarterback...
So we can flush as many draft picks down the crapper as we like.
WSS
I'd say that we are all set except for one humble, hardworking, crazy talented franchise quarterback away.
Two sides of the same coin?
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Well luckily the Browns are all set except for one long shot rookie gimmick system quarterback...
So we can flush as many draft picks down the crapper as we like.
WSS
I'd say that we are all set except for one humble, hardworking, crazy talented franchise quarterback away.
Two sides of the same coin?
Well then he'd certainly be worth a Mike Ditka deal. If he's not, Mike Ditka will have company in the Goat Hall of Fame.I'd say that we are all set except for one humble, hardworking, crazy talented franchise quarterback away.
Two sides of the same coin?
Luckily by tomorrow morning all the phony rumor stories about the Browns planning a deal to trade their first round picks with everyone from Manchester United to the Montreal Canadiens will be over.
WSS
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Well, I promised myself I wouldn't touch alcohol until my birthday. If things go south tonight, that's going right out of the window awfully fucking fast.
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Latest rumors have us moving to 9 ......trading with the Giants ..... how much would we have to give up to move 3 spots in the draft...imagine if its the 19 we are giving up and are trying for 2 picks in top 12
Latest rumors have us moving to 9 ......trading with the Giants ..... how much would we have to give up to move 3 spots in the draft...imagine if its the 19 we are giving up and are trying for 2 picks in top 12
Took our 5th rounder to go from 9 to 8 last year, but a third to go from 26 to 22
Who knows. . .
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Latest rumors have us moving to 9 ......trading with the Giants ..... how much would we have to give up to move 3 spots in the draft...imagine if its the 19 we are giving up and are trying for 2 picks in top 12
Took our 5th rounder to go from 9 to 8 last year, but a third to go from 26 to 22
Who knows. . .
Took our 5th rounder to go from 9 to 8 last year, but a third to go from 26 to 22
Who knows. . .
Without looking at the chart - 3rd, maybe 4th rounder.
That wouldn't bother me so much. If we trade up to 9, nab Mariota without surrendering 19. I still don't think he'll be more than a slightly above average QB (which I think Petty can be with just as much time on the bench) but I wouldn't be quite as pissed. Then at 19 you can take best available DL/WR. In the 2nd round you can address OLB and OG in the 3rd.
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yep....pretty sure we used only a 5th to move up the 1 spot(from #9 to #8).....last year....
Depending on where we're looking to move up to(ad for whom)....Id think there is a good chance of trading #19 and other picks to get inside the top 10, while still maintaining #12 AND next years 1st.....
Make it work Farmer....
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If you compare tape of Manziel and Mariota they are too similar to trade picks to draft another spread QB. Think about the players we give up to go get Mariota. Shelton, Brown, Armstead, Peat, Parker, Collins. Guys that you plug in and play immediately that make a difference. We need to stop the run. We need depth on the O-line. Are the Browns going to throw it all away for another quarterback? I do believe they might but pray they don't.
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Sorry, but I don't see a similarity issue.
Sure, I agree... two #1s is steeper than I'd like to pay, but of your list only Shelton gives me pause... and it doesn't even matter to which Collins you are referring.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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