Official 2015 Draft: Day One Thread

Tour2ma

Harrison will scare him to death...

And you are way overdue for another 1st-round miss.

Vagitron

@tour2ma said:

Harrison will scare him to death...

And you are way overdue for another 1st-round miss.

I guess we will find out. The steelers were talking about trading up to get him.

gftChris

@tour2ma said:

Harrison will scare him to death...

And you are way overdue for another 1st-round miss.

Are we saying Jarvis Jones is a hit? Jury is definitely still out.

gumby73

My biggest Question of the night::: Was There a Trade Down Offer even to consider at 19???

thenew23

@tour2ma said:

Erving was your fav?

It will be interesting to see if Mitch ends up part of a trade deal.

Yes, Erving was my favorite because of his pure athleticism and ability to pick-up o-line positions very quickly and play them both at a very high level. He is certainly best-used as a C, and may replace Mack if we can't keep him, but he looks to have the ability to develop into whatever we need along the line...

Also, don't forget Mitch is on the last year of HIS contract as well...

tiamat63

What time does the second round start ?

Harry Buffalo

@tiamat63 said:
What time does the second round start ?

7PM tonight.

I was just watching some of Shelton's highlights and one of the things that I really liked was how he moved horizontally to stay in the play. Reminded me of how Rubin was always able to get left and right towards the play a few years back when he was still a young buck.

Mudfly

@thenew23 said:

Yes, Erving was my favorite because of his pure athleticism and ability to pick-up o-line positions very quickly and play them both at a very high level. He is certainly best-used as a C, and may replace Mack if we can't keep him, but he looks to have the ability to develop into whatever we need along the line...

Also, don't forget Mitch is on the last year of HIS contract as well...

Ive liked him all along too.....mostly due to his versatility and athletic ability for a big man....not an OL rater myself, but felt he was at least described as exactly what the Browns needed and wanted.....

Versatility to play multiple positions....the athletic ability to play zone......interior ability.....and with a good head and high character

Tour2ma

@gumby73 said:
My biggest Question of the night::: Was There a Trade Down Offer even to consider at 19???

My guess is no... nothing worthwhile was offered, but I suspect Denver called to feel out our interest in Shane Ray.

The Gipper

@tour2ma said:
They do love them some LBs...

The Steelers have drafted LBs in the first round now 3 years in a row.

The Gipper

@vagitron said:
Dupree is an athletic freak of nature but he's very raw. Once he figures it out he could be the next Robert Quinn. He may not figure it out but the steelers don't really miss in the first. Mayock had him going at 8 to atlanta. I personally wanted peters but he went to the chiefs. I'm happy with Dupree and completely disagree with you and so does just about everyone else. The so called graders gave the pick an A+

He's from Kentucky Dude......now if this was basketball, well OK. But Kentucky for football?

JAFBF

Talk about being in a Fog . . .

Wife's been getting up at 3am the past two weeks for Training - it's really screwed up my sleep.

Sleep's screwed up so bad that I didn't even realize til this morning that Cameron Erving was the OL that I mentioned in the Draft/Notes thread we were targeting because of his position versatility.

Still a little fuzzy (another 3am'er), but I do believe DT Shelton was a consensus favorite a couple months back.

So, taking all this into consideration it appears we did pretty well in 1st Round for a change.

Tour2ma

Besides a couple breath holds at the Bears' and Giants' picks, Round One was kinda boring...

JAFBF

Boring?

Somewhat, but several Analysts are calling the Browns Draft solid and smart - not sure when the last time I heard that about a Browns 1st Round Draft.

Another aspect to consider :

They didn’t overthink it. Farmer and his staff agreed that Erving was a high-impact player, one of the top offensive players on their board. Next year, the Browns could lose right tackle Mitchell Schwartz to free agency and center Alex Mack to a contract opt-out. Erving is insurance.

http://espn.go.com/blog/cleveland-browns/post/_/id/13445/browns-didnt-overthink-it-cam-erving-selection-shows-progress

I had overlooked the Schwartz Contract expiration, so this pick is a double Insurance Policy.

Not sure what tonight holds, we still have some D holes to fill, but I wouldn't be surprised to see a WR or QB (3rd) taken.

Tour2ma

Yeah, boring... but maybe anticlimactic is a better choice of word.

I was keyed up going into it and nervous about Shelton falling to us, but once he did then the lack of trading in general and my personal let down at #19 took over.

Not sure how one player can provide double insurance.

tiamat63

@tour2ma said:
Besides a couple breath holds at the Bears' and Giants' picks, Round One was kinda boring...

Daddy was here to tell all the good boys and girls the Gmen weren't the problem. If Shelton cleared Chi Town it was a done deal.

JAFBF

The double insurance comes in that he can fill either position (C or T) if one goes due to Contract.

I thought you were high on Erving when it came up some weeks back?

The more I think about it, the more I'm liking it - we've got five OL picked in the 1st/2nd, we should be pretty good here for some time.

gumby73

Come on Tour tell Him. Ali Ali Ali The Ali Marpet pick is killing us It does float like a butterfly and sting like a Bee??

tiamat63

I don't see Erving as insurance for Schwartz barring catastrophe. I see Erving as purely C/G and either Bowie or someone yet to be drafted as a RT replacement should we part ways with Mitch.

Tour2ma

lol...I'm doing te shuffle as I type this...

@jafbf said:

The double insurance comes in that he can fill either position (C or T) if one goes due to Contract.

I thought you were high on Erving when it came up some weeks back?

First, please forget my double insurance jab. It was around one player filling two spots. In other words, it was just some lame bitching.

Yes, I was high on the tape I finally found on Cam at Center. His OT tape on the other hand was average at best. He really had trouble in space. So I see him as only solving one problem. I heard no one saying he ranked with the top OTs in this draft... two of whom are moving inside as well. There are OTs still on the board that I rated higher.

I think he could develop into being a very good Center... probably OG as well, but he is raw and I do not see him beating out any of our interior starters immediately. And that makes him a very pricey back up in the short term.

Longer term is he a starter for whomever has moved on to another team? Possibly... but that's TBD. Others think it is more certain or that he's "plug'n'play"? Fine...

Bottom line there are simply other inside picks I see that are both cheaper and I think are more certain starters down the road... and one is named Ali...