Breaking: Tom Brady suspended 4 games, 2016 1st rounder gone.
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Any PED cheater gets 4 games...I'm cool with that.
I'm cool with the picks and 1 million.
Kraft needed a few games out of the owners box and Belicheat should have got a year...or make him wear a suit and tie on the sidelines haha
Any PED cheater gets 4 games...I'm cool with that.
I'm cool with the picks and 1 million.
Kraft needed a few games out of the owners box and Belicheat should have got a year...or make him wear a suit and tie on the sidelines haha
I am not so cool with the picks. I don't know what that has to do with the infraction. To my mind, the only people that hurts are the fans. Fine/suspend the players, but don't harm the fans future. Not that the Patriots fans should be considered all that much....but when they were talking about taking picks away from the Browns over Ray Farmer's situation, that possibility is what made my blood boil.
The only thing I can think of that cause the draft pick forfeiture is the non-cooperation and the pattern of abuse. But, again, still I think you punish the player/coach/owner for that....not the fans. Which is what the draft pick forfeiture does in my view.
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This is a controversy created by the media and haters. I'm no Patriot fan by any means but if you think every team isn't looking for an edge you're crazy. Every team in every sport is always searching for means, either by the rules or breaking them undetected, to get the upper hand on the competition. We all just happen to down play those we like and those that are irrelevant. The Falcons did something that definitely gave them a competitive advantage and was deliberate but no one cares because they stink. Only naive fans would think under or over inflating footballs is something invented by Tom Brady.
I think you're spot on with that take.
I don't like the Pats at all, mostly because of Bellichick's smug attitude.
With that being said, imagine if Art would have just sold the team and Bellichick was retained by the new owner. We'd probably have all those Super Bowls, the guy knows his stuff.
Sheez, I'm pouring a drink damnit.
I think you're spot on with that take.
I don't like the Pats at all, mostly because of Bellichick's smug attitude.
With that being said, imagine if Art would have just sold the team and Bellichick was retained by the new owner. We'd probably have all those Super Bowls, the guy knows his stuff.
Sheez, I'm pouring a drink damnit.
Only if they had Tom Brady come with Belichick.
Despite this, Tom Brady is still one of the best QBs ever.
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As long as Jimmy G can throw a slant pass five yards the Pats fans won't even notice Brady is missing
As long as Jimmy G can throw a slant pass five yards the Pats fans won't even notice Brady is missing
Yea, I don't see this as Steve Young replacing Joe Montana. It may be more like Quincy Carter replacing Troy Aikman, or Cliff Stoudt replacing Terry Bradshaw.
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Any PED cheater gets 4 games...I'm cool with that.
I'm cool with the picks and 1 million.
Kraft needed a few games out of the owners box and Belicheat should have got a year...or make him wear a suit and tie on the sidelines haha
I am not so cool with the picks. I don't know what that has to do with the infraction. To my mind, the only people that hurts are the fans. Fine/suspend the players, but don't harm the fans future. Not that the Patriots fans should be considered all that much....but when they were talking about taking picks away from the Browns over Ray Farmer's situation, that possibility is what made my blood boil.
The only thing I can think of that cause the draft pick forfeiture is the non-cooperation and the pattern of abuse. But, again, still I think you punish the player/coach/owner for that....not the fans. Which is what the draft pick forfeiture does in my view.
I am not so cool with the picks. I don't know what that has to do with the infraction. To my mind, the only people that hurts are the fans. Fine/suspend the players, but don't harm the fans future. Not that the Patriots fans should be considered all that much....but when they were talking about taking picks away from the Browns over Ray Farmer's situation, that possibility is what made my blood boil.
But, again, still I think you punish the player/coach/owner for that....not the fans. Which is what the draft pick forfeiture does in my view.
I agree with that much.
Like fining the Red Sox and the Bruins.
WSS
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Big Patriots fan gives up on them for being rule breakers.
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2015/5/11/8586371/pats-fan-changes-allegiances-following-deflategate
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I'm on page 78 of the Wells Report. The investigation is very interesting indeed. There's a part in the report that goes back to 2004 when McNally was reprimanded by NFL officials for providing footballs that were not legal. He made some excuse about the weather but the NFL warned him and the Patriots and that was not all.
In 2006 Brady lobbied The NFL to change the rules to let teams on the road provide and prepare their own balls.he was quite cognizant of the psi etc.
McNally who,worked for the team for 32 years was known by everyone in the orginization but Brady said he didn't know his name.
The Law firm hired to investigate pleaded with the Patriots to let them interview McNally but were denied access to him. They also hired a company called Exponent to perform dozens of scientific tests on the footballs regarding loss of psi.
After reading this report you can't deny Tom was doing this for years and refused to cooperate with Wells.
Why didn't he just come clean in the beginning and admit he liked the psi under 12.5 the legal minimum. Every other team has to abide by the rules so I'm sick of people dismissing this as piling on.
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A jury is not supposed to take into account when a defendant does not testify, but I've heard jurors with my own ears say it does play a part. I believe he didn't cooperate because he's knows he's guilty. I could be completely wrong though ?
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All Else fails Blame the Browns:: So all sources say We got off because all Browns Officials cooperated with League investigations in Text gate. So are we saying, Jimmy Haslem phone was also reviewed by league for Messages.. If so Tom Brady has nothing to hide over Haslem (Flying V) besides the truth. Unless Brady give up the smoking gun (phone) he's got no chance to get this reduced IMO...
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A jury is not supposed to take into account when a defendant does not testify, but I've heard jurors with my own ears say it does play a part. I believe he didn't cooperate because he's knows he's guilty. I could be completely wrong though ?
A jury is not supposed to take into account when a defendant does not testify, but I've heard jurors with my own ears say it does play a part. I believe he didn't cooperate because he's knows he's guilty. I could be completely wrong though
& that's why the League hammered him.
I agree with Gip- taking away draft picks hurts the fans- but it seems old Tom has been using deflated balls for years.
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A jury is not supposed to take into account when a defendant does not testify, but I've heard jurors with my own ears say it does play a part. I believe he didn't cooperate because he's knows he's guilty. I could be completely wrong though
& that's why the League hammered him.
I agree with Gip- taking away draft picks hurts the fans- but it seems old Tom has been using deflated balls for years.
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What if Jimmy Garoppolo is the new Tom Brady like Tom Brady was to Drew Bledsoe?
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What if Jimmy Garoppolo is the new Tom Brady like Tom Brady was to Drew Bledsoe?
What if Jimmy Garoppolo is the new Tom Brady like Tom Brady was to Drew Bledsoe?
I'll trade a 6th rounder for Brady.
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What if Jimmy Garoppolo is the new Tom Brady like Tom Brady was to Drew Bledsoe?
The rich get richer. See Manning/LuckWhat if Jimmy Garoppolo is the new Tom Brady like Tom Brady was to Drew Bledsoe?
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The rich get richer. See Manning/LuckWhat if Jimmy Garoppolo is the new Tom Brady like Tom Brady was to Drew Bledsoe?
The rich get richer. See Manning/Luck
The colts lucked in to Luck, they were picking #1 - whoever sucked most that year would have had him.
Pats otoh, Garoppolo was taken in the second round, anyone could have had him.
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What if Jimmy Garoppolo is the new Tom Brady like Tom Brady was to Drew Bledsoe?
What if Jimmy Garoppolo is the new Tom Brady like Tom Brady was to Drew Bledsoe?
Pretty rare that lightning strikes twice in the same place. A lower round draft pick becoming a megastar? Per my research, since Tom Brady was drafted in 2000 there is exactly ONE other QB drafted in round 3 or lower that could or has reached that level....and that is Russell Wilson,
Beyond Brady and Wilson the best round 3 or lower draft picks are probably Nick Foles, Matt Schaub, David Garrard and Marc Bulger.
And yes, I know that Garrapolo was a second round pick. If I include second rounders only 3 other names crop up that represent really quality QBs since 2000: Drew Brees, Andy Dalton??, and Colin Kaepernick.
So, no, if a top notch QB emerges from round 2 or below I see the candidates being Foles, Kaepernick, David Carr...and maybe Mettenberger.
Does Garropolo have a chance? Yes, but no better than a dozen other draftees.....like Brock Osweiler, Mike Glennon, Geno Smith and a few others.
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